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iroguebot posted:Yeah I'mma be honest the brown/cream is a real turn off, I hate to be that guy. Just eyeballing it looks like there's a 'Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler' that seems similar but is black and silver, the reviews seem okay on it? Completely understandable. That's why I mentioned the colour scheme in the first place  I've never used it, so I don't know how good the NH-U12S chromax.black is, but Noctua does list the 5600X in its compatibility chart for that cooler, too.
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Snagged a 3090FE today at Best Buy. Now to get...everything else. I do a lot of video editing/after effects/3D rendering stuff so I decided to go all out after waiting 12 hours on a render the other day. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor CPU Cooler: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($229.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($239.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition Video Card Case: Lian Li O11D XL-W ATX Full Tower Case ($213.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($152.63 @ Amazon) Total: $1316.56 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-22 16:10 EST-0500 The hard part's going to be getting the 5900. Might bite the bullet at go for a 5950 if one's available. Anything out of the ordinary with this build? Any recommendations? Electric Crayon fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Anything particularly off here? I managed to get the 5600x today despite Best Buy and my credit card's best efforts. I already have the power supply from buying it a few months ago for a project that went nowhere, and the CPU Cooler as well if I can get the proper bracket for it. Video card is pending managing to get it somewhere and is a placeholder for whatever I can snag. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Best Buy) CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ B&H) Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($173.99 @ B&H) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Lenovo) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($85.90 @ Amazon) Total: $959.86 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-22 12:38 EST-0500
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Ambulance posted:I grabbed a 5600x directly from AMD today and a friend has an extra fractal meshify 2 case I can have, so it looks like I’m building my first gaming PC in 15 years. You all were really helpful 5 years ago when I built a cheap bare bones PC, so I was hoping someone could take a look and make sure everything looks ok. It’s pretty much just for gaming and budget isn’t really an issue. I realize it might take awhile to luck into getting the GPU. I lost my mind during my first Best Buy drop and panic bought a 3090. gently caress. Do I need to change anything? Ambulance fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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If I were to believe PC Part Picker no B550 motherboards support ECC memory, yet supposedly all Ryzen compatible ASRock boards do use it. What about ASUS? Do the B550 listed on their site as ECC compatible use it properly or do they treat it as non-ECC RAM?
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Storm One posted:If I were to believe PC Part Picker no B550 motherboards support ECC memory, yet supposedly all Ryzen compatible ASRock boards do use it. ECC isn't officially supported on the platform, but it's my understanding that it does work.
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They usually have some sort of acronym for brand name associated with them along with the size in GB hidden within the long stretch of numbers and letters. If you could show a screenshot we might be able to help. EDIT: Also your BIOS should differentiate which hard drive is which... and you can figure it out from that I think? Thom P. Tiers fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Electric Crayon posted:Snagged a 3090FE today at Best Buy. Now to get...everything else. I've seen a lot of people buying the new Zen3 Ryzen CPUs and also purchasing 2x RAM sticks alongside them. This quote is just the latest one I'm coming across but I really suggest people heed the information in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ&t=766s Edit: Okay it's not as simple as sticks, it has to do with 'memory ranks' and some RAM sticks are dual rank, so 2x dual rank is just as good as 4x single rank. One more thing to be extra diligent about, it seems. Lando131 fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Jan 22, 2021 22:40
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That's all on 1080p is it not? Also it has to do with memory ranks, not specifically sticks of RAM.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:That's all on 1080p is it not? Also it has to do with memory ranks, not specifically sticks of RAM. It's several benchmarks that show several different sets of RAM sticks that all show performance loss on 2x sticks vs 4x sticks on the Zen3 architecture, with many explicit mentions that the actual amount of memory is not the reason for the difference. For some reason Zen3 Ryzan CPUs want 4 sticks of ram. Don't take my word for it; check the reviewers information and look around elsewhere online if you want.
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Lando131 posted:I've seen a lot of people buying the new Zen3 Ryzen CPUs and also purchasing 2x RAM sticks alongside them. This quote is just the latest one I'm coming across but I really suggest people heed the information in this video: That's a good point, thanks. It's a small price hike but 10% extra performance is 10% extra performance.
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Jan 22, 2021 22:57
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His pinned comment clarifies that it's memory ranks that counts.
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I mean, haha, I totally knew my original choice was dual-rank. yes.
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I stand corrected and edited my original post to note that the issue is about memory ranks rather than merely sticks. Actually finding out how many 'ranks' each stick is supposed to have is something people will need to research and be careful of at least!Electric Crayon posted:I mean, haha, I totally knew my original choice was dual-rank. yes. Even so sorry for the false clarification on your build specifically.
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Lando131 posted:It's several benchmarks that show several different sets of RAM sticks that all show performance loss on 2x sticks vs 4x sticks on the Zen3 architecture, with many explicit mentions that the actual amount of memory is not the reason for the difference. For some reason Zen3 Ryzan CPUs want 4 sticks of ram. Don't take my word for it; check the reviewers information and look around elsewhere online if you want. I skimmed through most of the benchmarks and I believe they were all 1080p benchmarks at high and medium. Also, it's definitely memory ranks, as the pinned comment states. Which makes sense, since the CPU is going to affect frames more at 1080p rather than 1440p.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I skimmed through most of the benchmarks and I believe they were all 1080p benchmarks at high and medium. Also, it's definitely memory ranks, as the pinned comment states. Which makes sense, since the CPU is going to affect frames more at 1080p rather than 1440p. I'm fairly sure it was intentionally letting the GPU not be the bottleneck, yes. You may have far more insight on the actual architecture and hardware than I do; I looked for a followup video on the channel and didn't see any unfortunately. If it's an edge case that won't ever meaningfully affect real world performance that would be good to know.
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Bofast posted:If you do want a Noctua cooler, a 5600X should be perfectly fine with the NH-U14S, which is a bit smaller and less overkill than the NH-D15, assuming you don't mind whatever colour scheme the NH-U14S is available in these days. I have this combo and the 5600X hasn't exceeded 60C at any point while playing AC: Valhalla I haven't done stress tests but I'm very happy with it. I'm thinking about replacing the fan with a Corsair ML140, though.
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Lando131 posted:I'm fairly sure it was intentionally letting the GPU not be the bottleneck, yes. You may have far more insight on the actual architecture and hardware than I do; I looked for a followup video on the channel and didn't see any unfortunately. If it's an edge case that won't ever meaningfully affect real world performance that would be good to know. If you're not cpu bound (and in most gaming workloads you won't be), you won't see much/any improvement. It's not "more performance", it's "a higher bound on that particular factor", as with any pc component.
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Yea I just read a techspot benchmark article where it said those differences go down to 4% max on 1440p and like 0.5% difference when running sweet spot speed/timing ram for Ryzen. BUT, that being said, it's probably worth it if you are going to be gaming at 1080p on a new Ryzen chip to make you you have those correct memory ranks.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Yea I just read a techspot benchmark article where it said those differences go down to 4% max on 1440p and like 0.5% difference when running sweet spot speed/timing ram for Ryzen. Even then, only if you're doing 1080p high refresh, which ain't real common around here. At 1080p60 it doesn't begin to matter. Now, if you're planning on holding on to this cpu for a long time it's possible GPUs will advance enough that you become CPU bound where you would be GPU bound today, but a. games will demand more too, and b. doubtlessly better CPUs, presumably using DDR5, will be available then.
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I guess I should have added if the cost wasn't too crazy to do so over... normal RAM.
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Saucer Crab posted:Anything particularly off here? I managed to get the 5600x today despite Best Buy and my credit card's best efforts. I already have the power supply from buying it a few months ago for a project that went nowhere, and the CPU Cooler as well if I can get the proper bracket for it. Video card is pending managing to get it somewhere and is a placeholder for whatever I can snag. I’d suggest spending a bit more and getting an equivalent B550 mobo. Gives you a bit more future proofing, specifically with PCIe 4.0 for storage and GPU
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I was able to get a 3070 for a reasonable price yesterday, so I can finally proceed with building a replacement for my 7-year old gaming rig: Budget: max $2500 but shooting for closer to $2000 PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $370.00) CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($178.33 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q4 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($279.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Black 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB DUAL OC Video Card (Purchased For $599.00) Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Newegg) Case Fan: be quiet! Silent Wings 3 59.5 CFM 140 mm Fan ($26.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: be quiet! Silent Wings 3 59.5 CFM 140 mm Fan ($26.90 @ Amazon) Case Fan: be quiet! Silent Wings 3 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan ($25.90 @ Amazon) Total: $2135.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-22 17:44 EST-0500 Some questions/concerns: Motherboard: Are there any disadvantages to getting a board with built-in wifi as opposed to an expansion card? If the onboard fails later on, I can just pop one into a spare PCIe slot, right? I like Asus so I'd probably be considering the non-wifi version otherwise. Memory: Thanks for the memory discussion; I think 16GB will meet my needs for now, but I went back and found some dual-channel kits. Storage: I wanted 3 drives: one for the OS, one for games and one for storage; I'm pretty solid on the OS and storage drives, but what I'm not sure about is how much of a difference PCIe 4 NVME makes over PCIe 3 in actual use. The speeds look much faster on paper, but in comparison videos it doesn't seem like there's really that much of a difference in game performance so if there's not much "real world" impact, I'd probably want to swap the Sabrent for a 2TB SN550 which would save about $50 Case/Fans: My current case is a bit noisy, especially under load, so I'm looking to limit that as much as I can while still keeping reasonable temperatures. My thought was to replace the stock fans entirely (beQuiet seems like the best noise to price option?) and have 2 x 140mm intakes in the front (one centered on the CPU, one on the GPU) and 1 x 120mm exhaust in the back. Would this be enough to keep temperatures under control or should I consider adding an extra exhaust? Is there anything else that I've missed or messed up? Thanks!
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Does anyone have recommendations on how to erase data correctly from my old PC? I am getting ready to part it out and I wanted to wipe the data correctly. I didn't know if doing a wipe through Windows is sufficient or not.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Does anyone have recommendations on how to erase data correctly from my old PC? I am getting ready to part it out and I wanted to wipe the data correctly. I didn't know if doing a wipe through Windows is sufficient or not. Ssd or HDD? Either way there are tools to do so. That being said, I don’t sell used drives. Use it as a backup drive until it dies or rip it apart and destroy the platter. Generally the data risk isn’t worth $40.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Ssd or HDD? I was probably going to pull that out from the rest of the PC
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It's time to replace my old desktop. I'm not in a spot where I *need* to do this ASAP, but I would like to get this done and over with while I have extra time/money on my hands. My primary uses are going to be standard home office with light gaming (Minecraft, Rocket League), although I'd like to keep options open for heavier gaming later. My budget is ~$1000, but I don't want to spend money for the sake of spending money. Would it be useful to put together something based on a Ryzen 5600/32GB RAM with no video card and add one later or should I be looking to at least put a basic GPU card in it to start?
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Ryzen 5600X does not have integrated graphics so you would need a discrete GPU for it to be usable. An APU like the 3400G or 3200G would suffice for light gaming needs but the corresponding APUs for the new Ryzen generation appear to be some ways down the road.
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Reverend Joshua posted:It's time to replace my old desktop. I'm not in a spot where I *need* to do this ASAP, but I would like to get this done and over with while I have extra time/money on my hands. My primary uses are going to be standard home office with light gaming (Minecraft, Rocket League), although I'd like to keep options open for heavier gaming later. As has been said, literally impossible and honestly the 5600x is overkill for your needs anyway. I'd recommend the 3400G for your current needs, it's surprisingly capable for esports titles and the like, although the fact that you want to upgrade to heavier gaming later makes things difficult because although you could slot a GPU into a system you'd still be stuck with a 4 core 8 thread CPU which will start showing its limitations more and more down the line. I think your best bet would be to get a Ryzen 5 3600, which is a very capable CPU and will remain so for a good while yet, and whatever cheap second hand GPU you can find for the time being while you save for a better GPU. Then you wouldn't need to replace both the CPU and GPU a few years down the line like if you'd just got the 3400G.
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Reverend Joshua posted:It's time to replace my old desktop. I'm not in a spot where I *need* to do this ASAP, but I would like to get this done and over with while I have extra time/money on my hands. My primary uses are going to be standard home office with light gaming (Minecraft, Rocket League), although I'd like to keep options open for heavier gaming later. PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/txPDfP CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($124.99 @ B&H) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Lenovo) Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.94 @ ModMyMods) Total: $708.89 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-01-23 10:37 EST-0500 Comments, suggestions (especially with regards to video cards)? Thanks to Butterfly Valley and FreeKillB for their initial replies.
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Reverend Joshua posted:Comments, suggestions (especially with regards to video cards)? Looks like a solid build. As to video cards, unfortunately the market is totally hosed and very turbulent, even regarding older second hand cards. I'd look at your local facebook marketplace or ebay or whatever and if you're unsure about the value of any deals run them by us here. That said, the 3060 is coming out soon at $320 which would barely put you overbudget and would presumably be all the GPU you'd need, and wouldn't necessitate you trying to find something second hand and then replacing it a little while down the line. Obviously that also would require you getting hold of one close to release, which I'm sure will be just as fun as for the current hot poo poo cards.
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Maybe you could get one of these: https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-gt-1010-graphics-card/
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What would be the cheapest GPU that can drive 4k/60 productivity and Netflix and is in stock? I'm gunning for a 3080 but the rest of my pc parts will be here this week and I would like to make use of it in the 6 months it will take to actually get my hands on a gaming card. After being on the BB drop this week and still striking out, and parking on discord all day with no luck, I'm starting to lose hope of getting one in any reasonable time. I was looking at a 1030 but hear conflicting things about the vram being enough for 4k streaming.
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1050Ti for $170? I can't find a regular 1050 with 3GB of ram in stock anywhere. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gv-n105toc-4gl/p/N82E16814125952
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Anecdotally, my local Microcenter yesterday had, for the first time I've seen on one of my periodic passthroughs, an open-box 3060ti as well as probably about two dozen 1660ti units on shelf. The previous time, probably 3-4 days earlier, they'd had a pair of 3090s. I think maybe, maybe, supply is getting just the tiniest bit better? Still no 5600s yet, but hopes are high.
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Case Chat: Any thoughts on well built cases that don't have windows? Specifically anything that isn't designed to look like it's for a 'gamer'. This looks the most attractive to me so far: plainswalker75 posted:Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.99 @ Amazon)
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Pretty sure that's a thread standard recommendation for people who like the minimalist aesthetic. I'd use the mesh top panel and make sure you throw a couple more fans in there to be sure of decent airflow.
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