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I’m planning on doing some upgrading. This build is about three years old (I think? I’m dumb). Current build is as such PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.00) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $31.45) Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste (Purchased For $7.90) Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $134.30) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $135.00) Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $199.00) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Toshiba N300 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($248.99 @ Staples) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Strix Video Card Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $79.99) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $54.90) Monitor: Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor ($380.65 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($269.99 @ Amazon) Mouse: Logitech G903 HERO Wireless Optical Mouse ($99.99 @ Best Buy) Total: $1821.16 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-30 17:40 EDT-0400 I use the thing for daily gaming and as a household Plex server (remote and local, a lot of use but just 3 people). I have a few specific objectives for this upgrade. 1.) RTX 30XX card, probably the 3080? I dunno but that’s what’s pushing this whole upgrade. It’s rare I can get any game to push to 144, even on low settings. 2.) PSU I’ll undoubtably need for the aforementioned GPU upgrade. 3.) additional cooling if needed. I only have the two base case fans in there. Temps are fine for now, but I imagine with a monster GPU temps will get higher. 4.) I’m considering a case change. The case lives in my living room in a pretty small space so I don’t want to go much bigger, however I really need additional space for 3.5 drives. My 12TB is full, and I’ve got tons of 1-4TB drives laying around I’d love to use instead of shelling out for additional large capacity drives for now. Here’s what I’m looking for advice on. Trying to be somewhat cost conscious on everything because the GPU appears like it’s going to hurt. What would be a good PSU with enough headroom to run the GPU/additions 3.5s without breaking my wallet? I prefer modular if possible but can sacrifice on that. Is additional cooling worth it here? And what should I get? Looking for air cooling only. What’s a good case these days? What I would really love would be a M-ATX that has a bunch of 3.5 bay space and can hold a 3 slot GPU, but I’d settle for a smaller ATX that achieves the same goals. I really like the Define 7, but A it’s kinda huge and B it seems enormous.
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sean10mm posted:If you like Fractal and want better cooling the obvious suggestion is the Meshify line. A little case with shitloads of 3.5 drive bays and room for the (rumored to be) huge rear end 3080 is generally an oxymoron though. Shitloads of 3.5 is probably an exaggeration, but I’d like more that two. I’d probably be happy with 4.
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Aug 31, 2020 00:58
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sean10mm posted:I'm having trouble picturing what you did, but the GPU is literally the hottest object in the case so sucking air off that probably isn't great. Especially since there's barely any space between like a D15 and the video card so the airflow is gonna be really bad. And those temps seem really high if you're using a Noctua tower cooler. Not OH poo poo GONNA DIE high, but really defeating the point of using a big tower cooler. I think your link is wrong?
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Aug 31, 2020 16:45
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sean10mm posted:It should just link to a random pc part picker build where the guy put the D15 in correctly? On my end it's just a build list with one external case pic and talking about upgrading.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:00
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Butterfly Valley posted:And that case picture shows the correct orientation of an installed D15. Oh I'm just an idiot. I thought he was trying to show correct amount of paste.
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Aug 31, 2020 17:54
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Does my build need a new PSU for a 3080? I’ve got a 550w seasonic and a 7700k. Might go FE, might wait for a EVGA. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/kinglyuser/saved/#view=pW3RvK Edit: I’ll probably also add a few more case fans
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Sep 1, 2020 19:53
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Klyith posted:For a 3080 you'd be pushing it, it would probably handle it if your system is minimal on other stuff like HDDs. You'd be asking for like 500/550W though and the PSU would probably be spinning the fan hard. Fair. I can probably sell off my other parts and make it back.
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Sep 1, 2020 20:09
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Should I just get this? https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005 The price seems better than most PSU prices right now, and I’m not exactly looking to get hosed buying one for the 3080 I’m gonna get.
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Sep 2, 2020 00:25
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Klyith posted:You could but you don't need an 850w PSU for a 300w GPU + sub-200W CPU. Even if I stuff like 5 3.5” hdds and a shitload of fans 850w wouldn’t be worth it? I’d be worried about 650 not cutting it, and I can’t find at 750w that are even the same price, let alone cheaper. Supposedly this is the defacto PSU quality list, which puts this particular unit at a good buy https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
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Sep 2, 2020 03:09
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Klyith posted:If you've got 5 HDDs that deff rules out a premium 550W, that's all. If you're worried you can look at reviews that measure total system power draw: a 2080 ti with a -X 140W cpu barely goes over 450W. The 3080 is adding like 40W over the 2080ti. A good 650W will easily cover it. Not trying to split hairs here, because I do really appreciate the advice. But the superflower is a 10 year. Is the RMX line better build then the superflower? Because if they’re both 10 year gold and basically the same thing I don’t see why I’d go 100w lower for the same price.
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Sep 2, 2020 05:18
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Thirst Mutilator posted:Is there any literature confirming this? I bought a this motherboard earlier this year and was considering dropping in a 3070 or 3080 once the non FE cards started hitting the market, and if it's true I'd be pretty bummed. After that post I did some googling on it. It seems like there’s no evidence that 2080Ti maxed out PCI-E 3.0 16x, so the consensus seems to be it’s unlikely a 4.0 slot will give huge gains over a 3.0 slot. I saw some other people in the GPU thread talking about how if it made much of a difference nVidia woulda harped on it more during the reveal. Edit: post above basically disproves this so never mind. Klyith posted:Oh, looks like they upped it. Review I looked at said 7 years. Never mind then, that covers my main objection. Thanks. There’s actually a 10% off coupon from the Corsair website when you sign up for their email bullshit so it’s 10$ cheaper. Gonna sit on it overnight for now. I’ve still gotta figure out more cooling and a new small form factor case that has a shitton of 3.5 space, can accommodate a 3080, and it’s ugly as sin or huge. Right now I’m considering the Fractal Node 804.
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Sep 2, 2020 06:24
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Rexxed posted:The best value for money is buying an 8TB or larger external WD drive and shucking it from its case. They're on sale frequently. The current deal isn't the best (they get as low as $120 for the easystore version) but it's still decent: I have one of the toshiba 8Tb 7200. They’re loud as gently caress but perform well. If you have a local micro center the best HDD deals I’ve gotten are just checking week by week at their sales till I saw a decent price/GB. Also, I ended up with the 850w superflower. Higher watt PSUs are going OOS everywhere now.
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Sep 2, 2020 23:59
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seiferguy posted:I can't find any rubbing alcohol around me. Is there an option for cleaning off thermal grease from a CPU that doesn't involve rubbing alcohol? ISO if you can find it.
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Sep 3, 2020 00:27
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BrainDance posted:This is actually, seriously fine? There's no iso around here, the cleaning alcohol is just normal drinking alcohol. I'm not doing anything that needs it now but I always worried about it leaving some kind of residue. I mean technically you can wash a board with distilled water as long as it’s discharged and fully dry after.
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Sep 3, 2020 03:49
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Rollie Fingers posted:In the GPU thread there’s a screencap from an Nvidia video showing the 3080 using almost 500 watts at load. I was so glad I went with an 850w after I saw that. I assume that’s under some insane overclocking (the clock was up to almost 2k in that screenshot) but still.
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Sep 3, 2020 19:21
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My current plan for my upgrade is to transfer my build over to a Fractal Define 7, stock it with a gently caress off amount of 3.5” drives, and throw a 3080 FE in there. Is this a bad idea? Am I gonna melt my poo poo? Do I need to buy a fuckload of fans? I like the unobtrusive look of the case, and the dimensions aren’t terrible for what I want. I’d love smaller but I don’t think that’s happening with the level of drive bays I want and and a 3080. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.00) CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $31.45) Thermal Compound: Noctua NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste (Purchased For $7.90) Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $134.30) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (Purchased For $135.00) Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $199.00) Storage: Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Toshiba N300 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($248.99 @ Staples) Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $79.99) Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Monitor: Dell S2719DGF 27.0" 2560x1440 155 Hz Monitor ($364.63 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($269.99 @ Amazon) Mouse: Logitech G903 HERO Wireless Optical Mouse ($122.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1773.24 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-04 23:16 EDT-0400
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Sep 5, 2020 04:19
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TheDemon posted:Question, I am likely to have 6 SATA drives by the end of the year and I rarely see boards with that many connections recommended. I'm looking at something like the MSI B550M Mortar, but it seems expensive since all I want is 6x 6gb/s SATA (or more I guess) and Wifi on a reliable AM4 board. Feels weird but I'd also be willing to look at lower end X570s if they can be reasonably recommended. Also I guess this requirement is also relevant to power supply having enough SATA sources. Why not get a PCI sata card?
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Sep 5, 2020 07:37
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Klyith posted:The Define 7 when you add a ton of HDDs does not have great airflow. The front fans then have the solid panel in front and HD cages behind them. Loud while gaming is totally fine. I play only with headphones anyway so that’s not a huge issue. I actually really like that the door easy opens and closes. I have no problems keeping it open while gaming, but I really like that I can keep it closed during the day for a subtler look. Also didn’t know if I should exhaust or intake on the top so that helps. With the case picked out I think that solidified my upgrade, assuming I can actually snag a 3080.
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Sep 5, 2020 20:18
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Pazzeh posted:sean10mm 144hz monitor is almost always worth it. The difference is huge and immediately noticeable I’m considering more memory for my build. Is there anything wrong with mismatching ram as long as dual channel is matched? Looking at getting this https://www.microcenter.com/product/481738/gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-(2-x-8gb)-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-f4-3200c16d-16gvkb---black Have this I think? If it’s not this it’s a super close trident z. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L2VBD3/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gtz Pilfered Pallbearers fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 21:22
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Mr Interweb posted:UGH Did you maybe buy something sketchy? Like maybe it’s labeled 800 but they’re actually 667? Is it 2 of the exact same ram sticks? It could also be a compatibility issue. Or a setting in the bios (if your laptop even offers ram speed/timing changes). It could even be that it’s not seated well. It’d be helpful if you posted the ram you bought and the exact laptop you have.
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Sep 6, 2020 13:57
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albany academy posted:i want massive amounts of storage in a windows desktop. some of the seagate stuff caught my eye on pcpartpicker https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ccCD4D/seagate-ironwolf-12tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st12000vn0007 I have a 7200 toshiba NAS drive (8TB) and while it is loud as gently caress when writing or reading, it works wonderfully. As far as if you should get one, it probably depends on your use case. Even though I use mine as Plex server space, I only picked the NAS drive cause it was the best 7200rpm drive at $/GB at the time. For most cases (including my own) 7200 probably isn’t even needed.
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Sep 6, 2020 19:25
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Xachariah posted:Blah blah blah, GTX 3070/3080 and Cyberpunk, you know the drill. My current build is 5 years old and the upcoming GTX 3070/3080's gave me an boner so here I am. PC Building Megathread - GTX 3080’s gave me an boner
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Sep 6, 2020 21:09
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Freakazoid_ posted:I'm soliciting opinions on micro axt mini towers. My current Rosewill Line-M is pretty much perfect as far as size goes, but my search for something in that size while also being modern (good air flow, side window, argb, ect.) has been difficult. I love my fractal define mini c enough that I’m upgrading to basically the same case in a larger form factor in the define 7. Fractal has a ton of stuff in small sizes (including fantastic cube cases) that look really sleek and offer really nice side panels.
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Sep 8, 2020 07:43
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uXs posted:Well, what do? It’s probably a bad motherboard or a bad CPU. Could be ram but with a CPU initialization error I’d doubt it. If the fan sent it over the edge when it was working fine it could even be the PSU (but again I doubt it). The problem is this is very difficult to narrow down. If it were me I’d probably RMA both the cpu and the board if possible so you can rule out both.
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uXs posted:I already swapped the motherboard. It seems a bit more stable in some way and less stable in another. I did some googling and it seems like gigabyte has this specific problem with the X399 and it requires flashing the BIOS with a specific naming scheme. https://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/3113/cpu-led-indicator-on-post?page=1 Do some googling around your exact model and see if there’s any similar relevant advice. The error sounds incredibly similar to what you’re experiencing. It even talks about the issue being related to XMP. CPU utilization errors are generally because the CPU isn’t getting enough power. It’d triple check everything is connected in the proper places when it comes to your PSU connections.
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Sep 8, 2020 17:52
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uXs posted:I was able to FS for hours yesterday with XMP enabled, so it really seems like the 1st motherboard was at fault. I understand why you don’t want to gently caress with it, it’s been a nightmare. If you’re still in the return window for most of your stuff I’d gently caress with it and figure it out now. It’s infinitely easier to deal with retail returns than RMAs.
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Sep 9, 2020 17:22
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Xachariah posted:So before I pull the trigger I was just looking into AM4 motherboards and despite a lot of research I still have no concrete idea of what I'm looking for. I just see ELITE BOMB MPG PRIME STRIX CAPSLOCK First you need to decide what features are must have and which are nice to have. WiFi? Says ports, usb header options, etc. PcPartPicker can narrow down options you care about pretty easy, then they’ll spit you a list. It’s a good place to start. I’ll also second that I like Asus boards a lot, despite being frat boy name approved.
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sean10mm posted:1) What's your budget? I will say, bios flashback and having error code printing on a board are something I don’t think I could ever go without again. That poo poo is just so helpful. Even if you only use it once, you’ll regret it if you don’t have it the one time.
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Looking for some quick recs and have some questions while I solidify the last bits I need here. Anyone have a good tool kit recommendation? Something with magnetic drivers preferably. I usually use what I have just laying around and I'd like a nice set of tools for tinkering. I have a Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE . According to the manual quote:M.2 Support I have a 960 Evo that's PCIe. Am I correct in assuming this means it does not eat the two SATA ports in this case? Here is the build as it stands now. I'll probably go 3080 FE if I can get one. Kingnothing posted:PCPartPicker Part List I'm looking for some additional cooling, because I assume with all the drives (and more will be added eventually) and the 3080 this thing will get hot. I'm thinking 1x more 140 front, 3x 140s on top, and maybe another 1x-2x 140 in the base under the PSU shroud. Looks don't matter at all. Should I be using the stock case fans and adding on or replacing all together? And what should I be looking for in the extra fans? The case has a three PWM fans and six 3-pin fans fan controller built in. Lastly I'm looking for a PCI sata card that won't kill me in cost.
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Sep 10, 2020 06:00
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Some Goon posted:About the only part of a computer that needs a tool anymore is the M.2 drive and maybe a hsf if it doesn't come with one, but the iFixit screwdriver set is as nice as everyone says it is, provided you ever have a use for the various bits it comes with, it's very much an electronics repair kit and not a general tool. Yeah electronics repair kit is definitely what I'm looking for.
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Sep 10, 2020 07:13
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Samadhi posted:I guess it's good that I'm a paypig and getting the MSI Unify that has the BIOS Flash. I wonder when the new Ryzen chips will actually be available, as since I am waiting on getting my hands on a 3080 anyway, that may push everything back far enough to wait for the new CPUs BIOS Flash is 100% worth it and I don’t think I’d buy a board without it again
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Sep 11, 2020 00:59
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literally this big posted:Gaming (all genres), streaming, video editing, browsing, general goony "Power User" stuff. Oh a 256gb SSD? You can fit call if duty and uh..... Windows I guess?
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uXs posted:Since I'm busy returning poo poo, I'm thinking of returning the H500M I got, mostly because the PSU is so awkward to access and I'd like a bit more room to gently caress around with cable management anyway. Did you ever look into the gigabyte issue with the bios renaming that I mentioned earlier? That issue was super similar to yours. I agree with returning everything you can still that’s giving you issues. Just start as fresh as you can at this point, it’ll make life easier than narrowing down if you can wait for the exchange parts, or give you options you wish you had. For a case, I think you need to consider more specifics. Do you was a mid tower, full, or something weird? With those drives I assume not matx but there are a few that can fit that. Do you care at all about noise or do you just want pure airflow? If you want any noise elimination at all you’re gonna compromise at least a little on airflow. I’m a huge fan of fractals stuff, for all the reasons you listed. Specifically their meshify line has great airflow. If airflow is your only concern, I’d start here https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3604-best-gaming-pc-cases-for-airflow-in-2020-right-now These guys do a genuinely insane level of temp and airflow testing, and that link has not just cases for all budget types, but choices within those budget lines. That being said. The define 7 from fractal is neat in that you can open the front panel and remote the front filter to basically make it an airflow case, then swing the door closed when you don’t need airflow. It’s part of the reason I ended up picking it.
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the_enduser posted:I am the orange SATA port. Nothing a little black nail polish won’t fix
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uXs posted:Not really? I flashed the bios this morning (with version 22, I assume the 30a was a beta version so I'm avoiding that now), been working fine the entire day now. I'll do a memtest with the memory at XMP speeds tonight. I'll check your previous post after I make this one. Yeah removing the filter is optional and will give a bunch of extra airflow if you feel like you need it. https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3558-fractal-define-7-case-review They’re also on sale at Newegg right now (windowless) @$139.99 + 12.99 shipping.
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uXs posted:Can't buy on Newegg, they seem to only ship to Turkey and the UK in Europe. The 7 is the new version of the R6. It has a lot of the same features and is kinda similar (and pretty nice) but the 7 beats it in almost every place. If you’re considering the 7, I’d use this site to find a retailer in your country that may have it. https://www.fractal-design.com/where-to-buy/?fwp_continent=europe
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gohuskies posted:I may have bought two parts that don't go together but I want to doublecheck to make sure I'm not missing anything. I have an MSI B365M Pro VDH motherboard and this MS30 SSD. The SSD uses the SATA type of M.2 port and it sure looks to me like the motherboard only has the PCIe type of M.2. But on the motherboard's website under "detail", it says that the motherboard supports SATA in the M.2 port with the caveat that the SATA 1 connector won't be available with a SATA SSD in the M.2. I don't understand and I want to ask somebody for advice before I try jamming things into things or returning stuff and buying replacements. Is anyone familiar with this kind of situation? I know you have the answer, but they share the same slot so it doesn’t matter. I asked this question earlier, and it seems the answer is if you use a SATA M.2, it eats one of your sata lanes and SATA_1 for non- M2 shuts off. If you use PCI M2, it has its own lane.
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totalnewbie posted:jfc I love microcenter. That PSU seems huge for what you have. You could probably shave $100+ just on that
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This was 4 days ago https://reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/iom6bu/restock_seasonic_px850_platinum_psu_amazon_15540/ Follow r/buildapcsales and set an IFTTT alert or something for PSU. Something reasonably priced from a decent company will pop up in the next few days and you’ll be able to grab it if you act quick enough. Unless you’re dead set on Corsair. https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006 This is in stock now. Not platinum but Superflower is an OEM that’s highly rated, this has a great price, and the LTT nerds like this PSU. With your build I don’t necessarily see why you’d need to go absolutely crazy with the PSU. Edit: 850w is $10 more
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totalnewbie posted:I closed my eyes and bought it. It’s also the one I bought so at least you know if it sucks I’m in the same lovely boat 
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