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SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

sean10mm posted:

So here is my suggestion for a "I want more than a 3600" build now that we have some actual information about the RTX 3000 release. Still trying to keep a strong focus on bang for the buck.

Feeling good about that RTX 3070 now that we know it has an MSRP of $499 and the performance of a 2080Ti that had an MSRP of $1,200 lol

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($99.41 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Custom: RTX 3070 ($500.00)
Total: $1314.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-01 16:21 EDT-0400

The more excessive version of the same build, which is probably closer to what I'll actually do in October-November because I'm dumb, looks like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($164.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($69.49 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.98 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion+ 760 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($14.95 @ Amazon)
Custom: SK hynix Gold P31 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD - up to 3500MB/s ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Custom: RTX 3070 ($500.00)
Total: $1493.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-01 16:22 EDT-0400

The D15S is massive overkill, but is also very quiet, is offset away from the PCIe slots to prevent compatibility issues and can probably be carried over to any future build. Also I always regret when I don't go bigger on a heat sink due to noise, thermals or both, but that's just me.
The extra beefiness of this board vs. the Bazooka is largely of theoretical value, but this is probably the cheapest path to big boi 12+2 phase VRMs and 6 layer PCBs.
Moving up to "ideal" for Ryzen 3600 CL16 RAM is actually kind of cheap... though it's also unlikely to do much IRL. So flip a coin here.
Meshify C is subjectively nicer and is the bling hater's choice for an airflow case.
This is an overkill PSU in terms of watts and efficiency on paper, but it's also compact, well reviewed and has nice solid black cables that are nice and flexible to make your life easier.
The value of a "higher end" PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2 drive IRL is... debatable... for most users. The P31 looks to be at or near the top of the that class while being priced in the middle of the pack.


You might want to consider the B550M Bazooka instead, the price is basically the same but you get the newer chipset with PCIe 4.0 on the video card slot & M.2 slot.

Unless I already suggested this and you didn't do it for some reason I forgot :haw:

Quoting this so I can find it in a month when I start to build it exactly!

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SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
Can someone explain to me like the dumbass I am how BIOS flashback works, I'd like to start buying parts piecemeal for my build, and would like to leave open the option for a zen3 proc if it works out, but am honestly terrified of having to do something that will brick my build before it is even started.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plu/p/N82E16813119315

Any commentary on this mobo?

I can't really make heads or tails of all the different options, but I like the I/O options on this one and I think it has everything that I'll need for a modern rig. I know the MSI bazooka gets a lot of talk here, but it seems to have bad reviews on newegg??

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

Klyith posted:

As a really cheap bastard, I have often noticed a trend that the stuff I buy work perfectly fine despite having terrible user reviews compared to expensive stuff. I don't know why, but it's a consistent trend.

My hypothesis is that when someone has a problem with their build and they have something cheap, they blame that thing (even when the problem is they haven't plugged in the 12v power). So they return it and leave a bad review. And when a person who buys the premium kit has a problem or can't figure it out, they blame themselves, return it quietly without leaving a review, and buy an alienware.

Marketing: it works.

I do wonder how many of the “it wont output video at all no matter what i do!” Reviews are trying to get video out of an amd chip with no integrated graphics using the mobo display port. There were a lot of those reviews all over multiple cheaper b550 boards.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

Suburban Dad posted:

You could buy an EVGA model 1660 and use the step up program to upgrade to a 3070 or 3060 in the next 90 days (assuming a 3060 is announced..and for sale by then..and part of the program... Lot of assumptions).

Have people used this program recently? Is it any EVGA card or just specific models? Think I might just go grab a 1660 super cause I'm sick of waiting to start my new build.

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SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
I've been slowly buying part for my new PC build.

Its been like a month since I ordered the ASUS TUF Gaming B550M-PLUS motherboard for my build.

I have one M.2 drive to put on it, but I'm trying to decide if I should go for another M.2 or a SATA SSD for a second drive just for file storage. I vaguely remember that some Mobos in this range had limited functionality of one or the other I think? Is there a better way to go? the drive will really only be holding pictures and videos ect.

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