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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

tomahawk max

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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The 2400g works on any motherboard made in the last two years.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Whitest Russian posted:

Is this the time to upgrade my 6600k?

It's a pretty good time to be building a new pc right now in terms of price. RAM and SSD prices are the lowest they've ever been. Just last year 16 gigs of ram was like $180 and now you can do it for $60. The Ryzen 2600 + mobo will be around $200 and will last for years. New video cards are plentiful and in stock everywhere selling at or below msrp since the crypto thing crashed hard.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Enos Cabell posted:

Thanks, read too many contradictory comments in user reviews and got myself all confused.

Putting together a small PC for my dad, haven't built an AMD machine since my old Opteron 165 / NForce2 PC years ago.



Oooooh, there is a very slight chance that your b350 motherboard won't work with the 2400g out of the box. If it's been left on the shelf since 2017 then it might not have the bios update. At this point I would get a b450 board at the least to make sure it's compatible.

e: i think you updated it. Looks good.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Nov 12, 2019

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Whitest Russian posted:

I'm mostly trying to decide if I want to get some decent Ryzen sale during Black Friday/Cyber Monday or if I should wait for Zen 3 to be released in early 2020 supposedly.

If I was waiting for Zen 3 I'd be reading reviews and user experiences for at least 3-4 months after release before purchasing. New architecture is always more expensive and AMD stated they plan to beef up the pricing next year since they are doing so well. They also always have numerous bugs to work out. Frankly the Ryzen 3000 launch was a confusing clusterfuck and I fully expect it to happen again. No need to be a guinea pig, let others tear their hair out trying to make new poo poo work.

I'd just wait to see if there are any black friday deals and if not, just get a 3000 system anyway since they are pretty stable now.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Yall realize the 2080 ti costs over $1,000 right? Like, just the video card alone.

$1,000.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

You might have purchased from a third party but was shipped from Amazon. They do that a lot and try to hide it. Zac efron store is a really good name.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Butt Ghost posted:

So hereís the build Iím aiming for. Itís modified based on what orange juche sent me earlier. I decided to put in the Ryzen 3700X because its multi-threading gives it a leg up when it comes to emulating more strenuous titles.

I was wanting to know if I should go with 32 gigs of ram instead of 16, and if I should go with the fractal Meshify. I like the fractal define s2, but Iím not sure if itís worth the $200+.

You have 4 ram slots so just add another 16 gigs later if you really need it. I like the Meshify for better airflow.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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I feel like ray tracing will be a big push with the next gen console refresh. So like 5 years from now with the PS5 Pro.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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If I lived near a Microcenter I'd be broke

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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You have a mini itx board going into a micro atx case. I mean it works but I'm sure you can have a more efficient use of space. Are you attached to the matx form factor? Because that case isn't all that compact from what I've seen and the regular Meshify C is pretty close while being able to use a full atx board.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Hardware Unboxed says the B450 Tomahawk runs even the 3950x very well which is a $700 processor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J69aiJJEHzQ

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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BraveUlysses posted:

what ram should i pair with a 3700x, 2060S and a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max? its really tedious trying to validate price options for the ram is on the qvl

edit: 32 gb, mostly gaming here and there

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M5RKH5...ding=UTF8&psc=1

It's overkill but just last year this would cost like $280

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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The Thermaltake Core v21 is a square box micro atx. But there doesn't seem to be many amazing matx motherboards.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Wut. Just get an external and put double sided tape on it and attach it to the top of the case.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

The USB adapters apparently suck. You can get a good wifi/bt pcie card for around $30. I opted to just buy a mobo with wifi built in.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Might as well wait a few days to see if there are any black friday sales on those parts.

Also you can just buy the normal Noctua CPU cooler because they come with AM4 brackets now out of the box. It's $50.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-L9...6MD84TXWYTHFQJ4

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Nov 21, 2019

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Minimum ram requirements for Half Life 3/Alyx is 12 gigs of ram. Might be time to just get 32 gigs.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

"Being a 5V fan, the NF-A12x25 5V PWM cannot be run at 12V and will be damaged when used with typical 12V power sources such as PC motherboard fan headers. "

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

A lot of b450 motherboards have bios updates that improve ram compatibility as well. So if your ram isn't running at the advertised speeds try updating the bios before returning it. My motherboard just had an update last week still tweaking the ram stuff.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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whydirt posted:

I'm waiting on my RAM because I overlooked ordering it alongside the other parts, but after that I'm putting together the rig that charity rereg posted for me a few pages back. I've got Win 10 on a flash drive using the MS utility ready to go. Should I be downloading drivers for any of the components on to another flash drive as well?

Is there a recommended YouTube guide I can follow along while I build? I'll be reading all the instruction manuals for everything, but something to watch/listen to would be comforting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gejkP3PhrCo

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Schadenboner posted:

Are there any decent mATX B450s if I'm going to want to slap a 3700X in it (not much overclocking) or should I still go with the (ATX-only) Tomahawk MAX?

There is an MSI b450m Max board that's compatible out of the box

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-ProSerie...H/dp/B07XH629TV

But I think mATX is pretty much dead at this point.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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The reviews are out and Threadripper is destroying everything again

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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You'll be able to get a Ryzen 3600, B450 mobo, and 16gigs of DDR4 3200mhz RAM for under $400 and it will last you for years.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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One advantage of NZXT cases is that they put the front panel connectors in one block.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Yeah I don't know why it's saying there is an error. They are 100% compatbile.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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https://asset.msi.com/pdf/main/glob...50-TOMAHAWK-MAX

It says it supports all first, second, and third gen Ryzen.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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The Max does support it. Don't worry about audio you can't tell the difference unless you have really fancy speakers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gejkP3PhrCo#t=1551s

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Nov 26, 2019

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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Pylons posted:

Made a few small revisions to the build I posted yesterday. Mostly got talked out of the 2080 Super, and swapped the Supernova G3 for the Corsair.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk Ultra 3D 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Walmart)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($112.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1289.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-26 16:11 EST-0500

e: was wrong about PSU. Looks good but I don't think the Sandisk is all that amazing a deal. I rather have an NVME ssd and maybe a 1TB sata ssd to go with it like a Crucial MX500.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Nov 26, 2019

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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spamman posted:

You guys really helped me put the below together a month and a half ago, but friends convinced me to wait for Black Friday sales to actually buy it. Looking at the posts above things don't seem to have changed much, but is there anything I should think about changing? I'm after a very quiet PC that can manage up to 1440 gaming.

The one I'm mainly considering changing is the SSD. Not a lot of places in Australia seem to have the HP and I typically don't use Amazon.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($309.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($181.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($101.20 @ Newegg Australia)
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($188.88 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($446.60 @ Newegg Australia)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($165.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1540.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-28 18:14 AEDT+1100

You could save a chunk of money getting the 1660 Super. It's almost the same performance, like maybe 5% slower. I see one of them for $385 aud.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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There's a reason that both the Playstation 5 and Xbox next gen are using 8 core AMD processors.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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No. Just buy a $300 Intel Nuc and slap a 128gig ssd in there and some cheap ram. Probably don't even need dual channel.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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X13Fen posted:

Hey guys,

I'm finally about to bite the bullet on my mITX build in the next couple weeks. Can I get a sanity check on the remaining parts, please?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($315.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($219.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Normally $429.00 @ PCCaseGear, currently on sale for $349)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Dual EVO OC Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($199 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1102.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 10:07 AEDT+1100

I'm tempted to pick up at least the SSD now, and possibly the PSU as well as it's just come back into stock. Are there any better/cheaper options out there? (Prices in AUD$)

Just be prepared that your mobo might not work with the Ryzen 3600 out of the box. In order to do a BIOS update you need a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 processor. But if the mobo was manufactured in the last couple months it will have the compatible BIOS on it.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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The CAS timing is faster on the second one and it also doesn't have the ghastly RGB

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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A 27" 1080p display will look like rear end.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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I think a 4k 27 is very wroth it. Love my HP Z27 but it's not really designed for gaming.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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My Asus Strix B450-I came with rgb lights and you can just turn them off in the BIOS. I don't think most motherboards come with lights at all.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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MagusDraco posted:

The tomahawk max is already updated to work with the Ryzen 3xxx chips so you're good there.

He has the regular Tomahawk in the partspicker list so make sure you switch to the Tomahawk Max. It's only $5 more.

Also better off with faster 3200mhz ram. 32 is overkill and it's easy to upgrade later anyway.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Veng...MSD2QCK9VFGGFAW

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Nov 30, 2019

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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If the two sets of RAM have different speeds then both will run at the slower speed. So if you bought fancier 2x8 sticks it won't run as fast as it could if your 2x4gb is slower.

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

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If the most intensive thing you do is games then16 is more than enough.

But ram is cheap now. Just get it.

Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 30, 2019

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