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Is there a scenario where AIO liquid cooling is worth it? I haven't built a gaming PC in over a decade, but I'm considering diving back in when the 4th gen Ryzen and RTX 3080 arrive, and I'd like to put them in a midtower case and keep noise to a minimum. AIO wasn't really a thing last I dabbled, and I have no idea if these are a scam. I wonder if it might help the GPU breathe by freeing up internal volume that would otherwise be occupied by a big CPU cooler? But that's a total guess.
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sean10mm posted:I personally would use an AIO in one of the two following extremes: Dr. Fishopolis posted:AIOs are great for compact builds where a 120mm rad will fit but a u12 or something won't, or if for some reason you have the space for 360mm+ of radiator and don't want to make your own loop. I don't fully understand why 240s exist when a noctua D15 is quieter than most of them, but people like the aesthetics I suppose. Thanks folks. Looks like I can squeeze a D15 into a Define 7 Compact case with 5mm to spare, so I'll probably go with that.
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Aug 4, 2020 02:14
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And if you're playing at 1440p or above then you're likely bottlenecked by the GPU, so a CPU upgrade isn't worth waiting for.
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Aug 21, 2020 22:16
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Kraftwerk posted:This post made me laugh way more than I should have. Thanks. I'm planning and starting to buy the parts for my Ampere machine, and I'm absolutely gonna put a 3700x in there. I'll be plugging it into a 4k display, at that resolution I don't expect the CPU to become a bottleneck for a good while. And if it does, by that time I'll be able to swap it out for a Zen 3.
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Aug 21, 2020 22:41
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MikeC posted:Sony has custom hardware on their SSD. It isn't just the throughput speed. They have a custom disk controller that drives the built-in SSD as well as a third party nvme drive if you choose to install one, and all it does is handle compression and cache management that would otherwise be handled by the CPU. PS5's architect confirmed this at a presentation he gave a few months ago acksplode fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Aug 29, 2020 |
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Aug 29, 2020 21:09
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Over the last few weeks I've been accumulating parts for a new build with a 3080 shaped hole inside it, and gradually becoming resigned to the idea that getting one will be a battle. Which is great, keeping myself entertained during lockdown is why I'm here in the first place.
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Hello PC building megathread, I have a PC building megaproblem and I need PC building megahelp. tl;dr: I recently assembled a new 3700x/3080 gaming PC that I'm quite happy with, except that certain games seem to be causing it to hard reboot. I suddenly see a black screen, then Windows booting up like normal. Event viewer shows no errors prior to the reboot in the Windows system log. And it's only specific games where I'm seeing this: I can play some newer and demanding games for hours with no issue, then switch to a game that was released a few years ago and I'll see a reboot in under an hour, sometimes as quickly as a couple minutes. My first thought was this looks like a hardware problem with my GPU or power supply, but I've been unable to isolate such a problem. I'm at my wits end, desperately updating drivers in hopes of a fix, so I'd appreciate any suggestions for further troubleshooting steps. Below I have more details on the build, which games are causing reboots, and the troubleshooting I've done so far. First, here's my build: quote:CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($304.99 @ B&H) These are games that I've played for hours at a time without a problem: Metro Exodus Death Stranding Hades Crusader Kings 3 And these are games that reliably cause reboots within an hour, sometimes as quickly as a couple minutes: MGSV Alien Isolation Sekiro This is my troubleshooting so far: After a reboot I'll check the Windows system log in the Event Viewer, and each time it's silent for minutes before the reboot, only showing errors after the reboot that complain about the unexpected shutdown. Sounds like a power supply issue, right? So I plugged my PC into a 1000 watt UPS that displays wattage output. I can watch my PC draw ~470 watts for hours as I play Metro with vsync off and FPS uncapped, then I can load up Sekiro, which never crosses 400 watts, and I get reboots. Maybe temperature is getting too high? But I used the MSI Afterburner overlay to keep an eye on temps while playing, and the highest I ever see are 55C for the CPU and 65C for the GPU. Maybe it's bad memory? I ran memtest86 for several hours, long enough for about two and a half passes, with no errors. I've made sure that every last driver I can think of is up to date, from GPU to chipset to bluetooth, to no effect. My last guess at this point is that I have a faulty 3080 and need to RMA it, but after the pain I went through to get the thing, I'm reluctant to lose it for a couple weeks on a guess. Anyone have any ideas? 
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hambeet posted:Recently I was having a very similar issue and it was the RAM. I misread the QVL list and bought the wrong RAM for my motherboard, so when I ran it at it's XMP timings and put it through something intensive (eg 3d Mark or some games) it would hard reboot exactly as you described. I could only get stability by manually setting timings (I'm at 3200 CL16 instead of the sticks rated 3600 CL16). Thanks, just gave this a shot. I turned XMP off and Sekiro still caused a reboot in about 2 minutes  I appreciate the suggestion though.
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Bofast posted:In case you still have issues with this, I had similar issues a while back and it ended up being my Vega 56 card. Swapped in an old GPU that I still had left over and the issues went away, so I got it refunded and bought a different card. No issues since. Thanks, yeah I'm still getting the random reboots  I'm certain it's not the power supply or memory at this point, so I think I'm gonna try to RMA my 3080 while I have a shiny new PS5 to distract me.
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