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KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

I have two pretty old 1TB HDDs I keep random stuff on in my PC and was thinking I could consolidate into a bigger, newer one. Any recommendations to keep an eye out for on Black Friday?

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KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Stickman posted:

Thanks for putting in all the work for the new OP, ItBreathes! Consolidating down to general advice should help longevity, too. Looks good!


How much are you thinking about spending and how big do you want to get? For TB/$$ you can't beat an 8TB WD Easystore or Elements. The Easystore often goes down to $130-140 so I wouldn't be surprised if it's that low or lower for Black Friday, but it might not beat the Elements' current deal at Amazon $125. The 12TB version of the Easystore will be $180 for BF.

If you're just using them as storage, external is fine. You can also remove (shuck) the drive and use it internally (Easystore, Elements), though you may need to disable a pin before it will spin up in on a standard SATA power connector (I just bent the pin back using an x-acto knife, but tape is less destructive).

Hmm I probably only need 2 TB, but I think 4 is a more common size? I have a whole NAS with about 12TB capacity already.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Anyone see a HDD deal for BF yet? I'm thinking 4TB probably.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Any deals yet on a maybe 4TB HDD? Haven't seen any.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Please help with my storage use case. In my desktop I have a 500GB SSD for Windows and my main games, an old 120GB SSD I have a few games on, and two OLD 1TB HDDs with some rarely played games and then random other stuff. I want to replace and consolidate those two HDDs.

- I have a separate NAS with 16TB of space, so I don't need lots on my desktop.
- I feel like a 2-4TB drive would be more than enough.
- I don't want to spend $200 on a 2TB SSD
- Would I want a 7200rpm drive since a couple games would be on it?

Was hoping for sales, but only seeing those on SSDs. It looks like this would be the best option based on Price/GB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/j2...ive-st3000dm008

There's also this hybrid drive that I was reading about : https://www.newegg.com/seagate-fire...N82E16822179110

Maybe I should just get a 1TB SSD since my 500GB SSD is going to fill up eventually...

KingKapalone fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Nov 26, 2019

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

It sounds like one of the 80mm fans in my file server is making some new noise I don't like. I have two of these in there from 2016 https://www.newegg.com/silenx-efx-0...N82E16835226033 but I wonder if there's something better. I want quiet since it's always on (and now in the room I'm always in due to WFH). It's not a variable RPM fan which I guess would be nice when the server isn't doing anything. I don't know if the motherboard supports that though, but I'd have to see if I can remember which board is in here.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Rexxed posted:

Noctua's going to be the way to go for that, but definitely check if you've got a 2, 3, or 4 pin fan. Either way the Noctua's support PWM if you have it.
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=noctua+80mm

Thanks I'll look.

ALso my friend wants a GPU for about $200. Any recommendations? He games at 1080p. Mainly WoW, CS, a bit of Overwatch, etc.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Rexxed posted:

Noctua's going to be the way to go for that, but definitely check if you've got a 2, 3, or 4 pin fan. Either way the Noctua's support PWM if you have it.
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=noctua+80mm

Currently the fans are 3 pin but they're plugged into 4 pin connectors. Here's what the mobo says:

5x 4-pin fan headers (up to 5 fans), 5 fans with tachometer status monitoring, Low noise fan speed control, Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) fan connectors, Status monitoring for on/off control, Status monitoring for speed control, Support 3-pin fans (w/o speed control)

I should go with 4pin PWM like this then? https://smile.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-.../dp/B00KF7MVI2/ And I isolated the one making the noise, but if I replace both the new ones should be quieter most of the time from the PWM?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Rexxed posted:

PWM just lets it monitor the tach and speed it up and down as it wants to. That one will be fine, I think the A8 (brown kind) is probably quieter due to the rubberized corner pads and extra mounting accessories in the box like the rubbery screw replacements, but the R8 will still be super quiet and good.

The A8s I'm seeing are only 3 pin and now PWM. https://smile.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-.../dp/B00NEMG9K6/ Does that matter? My current 3 pin fans are plugged into 4 pin plugs on the mobo but they don't change speed at all.

The 4 pin A8s specifically says PWM but aren't available: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00NEMG62M/ref=emc_b_5_t

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

I just put two 80mm PWM fans in my server since one of the ones in there before started making a bad noise and they weren't PWM. Now the fans are just constantly spinning up and then spinning down over and over again despite the thing being idle. I assumed the new ones would only spin up when it was under load, but it's so much more annoying now then the consistent hum from before. What settings should I be looking for in the BIOS? It's a SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-F-O.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Klyith posted:

your mobo manual says "The fan speeds are controlled by the firmware management via IPMI 2.0" so this stuff

Oh god great. Thanks though.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

One friend got this list from another friend for 1080p gaming and then asked me for a 2nd opinion. Please comment on my thoughts below.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.88 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($89.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case ($57.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($76.69 @ Newegg)
Total: $808.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 17:08 EDT-0400

- Don't think he specifically requested ITX. Any reason to do that?
- Mobo is unavailable but I know the VRMs are better on MSI B450s. But I also know nothing of ITX.
- RAM would be fine at DDR4-3200
- Definitely don't need that Samsung drive. If ITX fits 2.5" I'd probably just get a 1TB of another brand. Any recs?
- I don't follow mid range GPUs much, so not as sure about this particular 1660ti
- Don't know about ITX cases
- How is this PSU? I like Supernovas.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

KingKapalone posted:

One friend got this list from another friend for 1080p gaming and then asked me for a 2nd opinion. Please comment on my thoughts below.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($184.88 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($89.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case ($57.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($76.69 @ Newegg)
Total: $808.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 17:08 EDT-0400

- Don't think he specifically requested ITX. Any reason to do that?
- Mobo is unavailable but I know the VRMs are better on MSI B450s. But I also know nothing of ITX.
- RAM would be fine at DDR4-3200
- Definitely don't need that Samsung drive. If ITX fits 2.5" I'd probably just get a 1TB of another brand. Any recs?
- I don't follow mid range GPUs much, so not as sure about this particular 1660ti
- Don't know about ITX cases
- How is this PSU? I like Supernovas.

Any thoughts on this from a number of pages back?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

I got an EVGA G3 550W last year for my Ryzen 3600 upgrade, but now it looks like I'm going to need a new one already for a 3080! Would 650 work if that's what's available or would 750 make it comfortable? Is it still just the G3 or the Seasonic Focus? How's this CM? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cooler...p?skuId=6333805

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

I am thinking about cooling for a new PC build.

Case
I plan on using a PC-O11 Dynamic case. It supports three 120mm fans on top, three 120 mm fans on bottom, and an unusual three 120mm fans on the side of the case near the front.

FAN STUFF

I have an 011 Dynamic and just use 3 intake fans on the side. I use an air cooler so that's blowing that air out the back and/or up I guess. GamersNexus tested a bunch of configs for the case and they said this one worked. Don't know if AIO changes things though.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Anyone see a 3080 ready PSU in stock at normal price? Preferably a focus, G3, or RM? SAE A 650 RM on Amazon available on 10/3 but sold out upon refresh.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Would you take a 650W Seasonic Focus GX-650 for $101.50 or a 750W Corsair RM for $103.93?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

How do you tell your queue spot or whatever at EVGA?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

How I can I help a friend make this not overkill? The 3900X is a placeholder for a 5900X and he would also get a 3080. No monitor decision yet but I assume 1440p.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($439.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($189.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($289.74 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($284.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1654.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-26 18:00 EDT-0400

Maybe 5600X, air cooler, cheaper X570, 16GB DDR4-3600 or maybe 32GB, non Samsung SSD, don't know this case, and a 750W Gold PSU?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

I don't see anyone getting the recommended DDR4-4000 with their Ryzen 3. Is 3200 still fine and even 3600 is overkill? Would be for 5600X on a B550 board.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Can someone explain RGB fan connectors/ecosystems really quick? I have these with the controller that connects to a USB header on the mobo https://www.bestbuy.com/site/therma...p?skuId=6339072 The software sucks so I found this https://github.com/MoshiMoshi0/TTController which is ok if you can edit a config file.

I want to get 3 more fans, but considered a new brand since that software sucked so much. They all seem to have these USB controllers which probably wouldn't work since that's in use. Are there ways to sync all this stuff? Are there RGB fans that either connect to or have controllers that connect to the mobo fan header? I've also heard of RGB headers which I guess my barebones MSI B450-A Pro still has.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Can someone who knows more about RGB fans help me out please? I have an MSI B450A-Pro (non-MAX) which says it has 1 x 5050 RGB LED strip 12V connector.

These fans https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B081F47CNY/ say they have come with a few options: 3-pin rgb controller, 3-pin rgb splitter, 4-pin 3- way fan splitter, 3 pin rgb adapters. Would I be able to hook these up and control the LEDs with the least amount of bullshit possible?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Barry Foster posted:

You won't be able to control them with the motherboard (and therefore via software). 12V 4-pin is regular analog RGB, 5V 3-pin is digital addressable RGB, and are essentially completely incompatible. You'll be able to control the LEDS with the controller, though, and you'll still be able to plug the fans into the motherboard.

If you want to control RGBs with software you'll need to get regular RGB fans.

What are "regular" RGB fans?

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Not sure where to ask this but it didn't get much interest in the headphones thread. Is there a recommended PC mic for open mic gaming?

I have Sennheiser HD599s which have the 2.5mm jack so I can't use my old VModa boommic and the last 2.5mm headset mic I bought broke.

I've heard some things about the Mod Mic https://smile.amazon.com/Antlion-Au...n/dp/B07YN25KWN There's a USB one that's $15 more. This would go in the front of my case.

Keeping it off the desk would be nice and wouldn't something like a Blue Yeti pick up my keyboard? I have Cherry Reds so not too loud, but still.

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KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass

Will a B550 board support a Ryzen 1600x? My friend is getting the CPU for free. The zen 3 CPUs are the last using AM4 right? So then getting a 550 over 450 doesn't make it anymore future proof I guess.

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