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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Show is good. I'm definitely interested to see where this is going. The costumes, sets and some of the cgi looked real good. A few of the cgi shots looked really fake though, like they ran out of time. I did cringe at the parsec line and also I guess every mandalorian freezes their targets because it happened once in the movies.

bbf2 posted:

I think the Mandolorian will have to patch him up and keep working with him. He’s promoted in all the advertising as a major supporting character, I don’t think they would bait and switch us like that.

I'm down for this buddy comedy.

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



So the action continues to be cut really quickly, most of the time after the first hit, probably to hide their bad fight choreography. That's pretty sad considering the budget and the fact that they can easily have a stuntman in place of the actual actor since his face is covered.

I think I need to adjust my expectations from expecting to see anything new and interesting vs just seeing the old stuff from Star Wars. being good to just being more like TFA. It's not bad, it's just safe and ok.

thrawn527 posted:

So how many desert planets are Jawas riding around Sandcrawlers on? I kind of thought this meant we were on Tatooine, but I guess someone here found out that it's a different planet?

Please note, I am not trying to bring up the stupid Jakkooine argument of the other thread. It's more of an interesting insight into Jawas. They travel through space specifically looking for poo poo hole desert planets to scavenge?

Time for Jawas, the indigenous people of every desert biome planet in Star Wars!

SyRauk posted:

We already have very episodes, I feel like Episode 2 was just a waste of time to establish that Baby Yodas are strong with the Force?

Like we didn't already suspect that? I didn't hate the episode but are we not supposed to learn more about the plots/characters other than Jawas really love furry egg yolk?

This belongs in something like Short Treks. Oh well, only 6 episodes left. Tune in next week to learn that Carl Weathers won't talk to the main character unless he gets him the bath water of a hot Twi'Lek.

:same:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Hobo Clown posted:

The whole Nick Nolte sideplot is even more silly in that context. Mando has a spaceship and a target tracker, he needs neither a mount nor a guide. The only info we got from it are "this base of kidnappers are bad people" and "your ancestors rode blurg monsters and therefore so can you". It probably fits some cowboy trope but it feels more like a celebrity Star Wars fan asked for a cameo in the new Star Wars project.

"The way is impossible to pass without a blurg mount."

walks back on foot just fine

They could've at least given it some throwaway line like they have a sensor tower or something and will see your ship. But :effort:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Goreld posted:

It’s possible they downplay the fights right now so that when Gina Carano shows up and inevitably beats the living poo poo out of everyone it has more impact. Literally.

They’re already intentionally having the Mandalorian have trouble fighting to make him more human and less of a perfect Mary Sue warrior - he seems to barely make it out alive.

It's not that he's a bad fighter, it's that all the fight scenes cut away really fast. It's the editing(maybe caused by bad choreography) and it's really jarring and just looks bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75XwOm2JWw

Not as extreme as this example, but it's the same idea.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



NowonSA posted:

I also thought this added a lot of character to the Jawa culture. I already knew they were weird little space dwarves, but them valuing trade to the point that they don't really take offense at some of their tribe being straight up dusted, and are willing to do business with the Mandalorian, is an interesting wrinkle to me.

They were even willing to work with him after he tried to flamethrower one of them in the face. :lol:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Hakkesshu posted:

I like this show so far, but I really wish they would have more confidence in it being able to stand on its own two feet instead of having basically everything be "it's that thing from the movies but with a slight twist!" and hell they don't even do the twist half the time.

Like the Jawas. Why are they on this planet? Are Jawas a spacefaring race? Do they build the sandcrawlers themselves? Like I don't know if any of this was ever explored in the EU, but I always assumed the ones on Tatooine salvaged a mining vessel or something, since they're... you know, scavengers. But evidently it's part of their culture now regardless of what planet they're on - which is honestly fine, since now I'm just imagining a huge space sandcrawler dumping smaller sandcrawlers filled with Jawas on a bunch of unsuspecting outer rim planets. Even if it doesn't make much sense.

The actual answer for all this is that of course it was just included because it's The Thing From The Movie, which is maybe actually what Star Wars fans want, but it feels like a crutch that's like fundamentally something they have to get past for it to be something special.

:same:

See also: the landspeeder in the first episode on the ice loving planet. Because of course you want to ride in the open air when it's freezing outside.

It's fine that it's basically TFA / nostalgia themepark right now, but maybe they will try to tread some new ground sometime later in the season or even in season 2.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Mandalorian things to do list:
  • complete bounty
  • get armor crafted
  • get whispering birds
  • rescue yooda
  • restock whispering birds
  • restock flamethrower fuel
  • get a jetpack
  • get some rockets?

Noirex posted:

The lady blacksmith talks nearly as much as the hero and she's clearly very skilled and in a position of power and reverence by the rest of the male Mandos. I like that she wasn't in some dumb boob plate armor or anything remotely sexy. She's just a badass character who happens to be a woman. Did Anita even watch the eps fully? Plus Deborah Chow being not only a woman but also a woman of color directing the last ep.

She's also completely unfazed by the little scuffle in front of her. "Must be Tuesday again."

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Dr.Radical posted:

Yeah. Beskar is rare and valuable so you can trade it for a lot of things. Carl Weathers had a couple ingots, I doubt he was going to get some Mandalorian armor made for himself.

I hope he makes some crude armor for himself now that it's saved him

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Yooda must move real fast if he can keep up with an adult. I thought for sure that he would carry Yooda on his back.

Gonz posted:

Mando’s got Predator visor thermal vision.

I guess Carl Weathers is going to be fine in their next encounter :v:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



It's crazy how many bounty hunters want to kill Yooda instead of just capturing him for a bigger bounty. I want more of them to at least try to take him alive first.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001




:actually: Pentagon Wars fictionalizes the somewhat troubled development that led to the M2 Bradley IFV and M3 Bradley CFV, and in doing so misrepresents not only the actual, historical process, but also presents entirely reasonable compromises and design choices as wrongheaded. There's a team of generals who are presented as buffons and a put-upon lead designer who has to struggle under their unreasonable demands, but, in fact, the generals are reasonable and the lead designer is an idiot who couldn't design his way out of a paper bag.

Gonna assume this was also true for the AT-ST and the clone war one

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



https://twitter.com/xoGlitterTV/status/1200991801957658624

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



evilmiera posted:

Bone broth is apparently high in protein and essential amino acids, among other health benefits.

Mandadlorian is trying to make his son grow up big and strong.

Well, strong. He is of Yoda's species after all.

https://i.imgur.com/MKvyu3K.mp4

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



It's a real shame the bounty hunter in the opening didn't have plot armor shields on his ship like Mando did. :rip:

Jerkface posted:

I don't get this complaint. What do we think the "point" of the series is that we need an episode to fill us in on? If we look at it the plot momentum right now is around the Mandalorian loving with the bounty hunter guild & stealing baby yoda. This episode continues the threat that people are tracking BY & Mando, we get confirmation that word is out on him shooting up the BHer guild on his old planet, and we are introduced to a new potential threat. We see the attrition that running from all these BHers is going to take. AND its a fun western bounty hunt.

I mean that information in your spoiler text could've been told last episode too. Maybe he overhears a conversation in the bar about how someone shot up the bounty guild.

Frankenstyle posted:

It wasn't terrible or anything, but if you're only doing eight episodes and most of them are just 30 minutes you need to spend your time a lot more wisely than that.

:agreed:

e: the fight choreography and editing is still terrible.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Dec 6, 2019

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



teagone posted:

To give some examples of "good" fanservice from this show, I thought the Jawas in the second episode were great. They were integral to the plot and enabled some of the cooler action setpieces the show has had. Same for the AT-ST last episode. That's fanservice done right imo.

See, I'd say that's bad fan service. They were just there because it was a desert planet, not because it made any sense. Unless you just want to assume that Jawas are native to every desert planet in Star Wars.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Sammus posted:

I'm going to be super disappointed if Ming-Na Wen is wasted on a single episode.

I'm sure she will show up again along with IG-11 :v:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Owlbear Camus posted:

Ah my old nemesis, Dikk Tugarr.

I like the running gag of the flamethrower being a go-to move... that works like 30% of the time.

:vince:

The whistling birds have a 50% success rate too. Mando needs to get some better gadgets(and a jetpack).

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Noirex posted:

That's true, it does play into the Western revenge trope plus I hope they bring back characters like Ming-Na Wen as well, since her fate was kind of ambiguous. I wish they had stuck to Clancy Brown's concept art though, it was much more recognizable and interesting looking.

How was her fate ambiguous?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I hope Mando gets a gun that shoots lightsabers.

Replace his flamethrower with like 3 lightsabers.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Bust Rodd posted:

Aren’t stunners/phasers a Star Trek thing? Doesn’t Star Wars just use laser guns?

The jawas shot him with some in ep2.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Mando is a bad influence on Yooda :twisted:. He got his violent force choking tendencies from you daaaaaaaaaaaad.

I was going to laugh so hard if Carl Weathers lost his hand again.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Maybe it wouldn't have taken you 3 human lifetimes to buy yourself out of slavery if you learned how to program droids instead of slowly teaching them through repetition Nick Nolte.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Daric posted:

I like how all of these things which were perceived as not super dangerous after the OT are now seen as excessively so. The single AT-ST fighting the villagers was terrifying even though we've already seen several of them get destroyed by teddy bears and logs. And now, if this guy has a single Star Destroyer, that would be a big deal even though we've already seen 3-4 of them a time in all of the OT movies and we know there's dozens out in the ST movies.

At least one thing is consistent: Regular stormtroopers are still a joke

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Captain Splendid posted:

Remove the casino planet, have Holdo not be a smug moron, and don't have the characters rubberband back to the status quo right at the end after spending the whole film exploring interesting themes and it could've been really good.

:agreed:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



I hope a junk dealer has one and he just uses it as a cutting torch.

Or can opener.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



lol Kuill you really are a lovely droid mechanic / programmer. Turns out it will still kill. Sorry, I mean "protect". Mando was right to be concerned.

Carl Weather is great. "Cmon baby, do the magic hand thing."

:rip:? exposition blacksmith.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



lol the people hoping he never takes his helmet off and there would never be any jedi stuff in the show.

If Moff "War Crimes" Gideon wants the baby so bad, why is he filling the building full of holes / fire?

NowonSA posted:

Ming-Na's too cool to use just for one episode if you ask me. Gutshot by a random wannabe bounty hunter? Not good enough for me, seems more sensible that one of her allies found her and will heal her up.

She wasn't established as having anything of particular value that someone would track down, so the only real reason for that quick walk-up shot is to establish that we may not have seen the last of her. I'd certainly be content if spurs guy is another bounty hunter who is tailing Mando and just missed him (approaching Ming-Na's character being a bit of a fakeout), he heals her up to get intel, and then turns her in for the bounty. I'm definitely ready to see Mando go one on one with a proper bounty hunter that's his equal or better than him in skill, it's not like being pals again with Carl Weathers will stop Gideon from putting out a big ol' underworld bounty on Mando's head.

She was lying there in the same spot, not having moved the whole day. She's dead. If they bring her back, it will only be second only to House of Cards in terms of copouts where they brought back Doug Stamper despite him having his head bashed in and lying motionless with his eyes open in the forest for the whole night.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Mandrel posted:

There were only like at most a thousand (probably a lot less) Jedi at their peak, in a galaxy of thousands of worlds in and outside of the Republic. We’re led to believe by Mace and other’s comments that their position in the Republic was somewhat more diplomatic and hands-off pre Clone Wars. I’d liken them to like, court sorcerers in medieval fantasy or spiritual advisors or whatever. Peacekeepers brought in at most to mediate huge problems (like a rogue Trade Federation blockading a major core world).

When you think of the scale of a galactic society and the way information is diluted and filters out just on our real life little single Earth planet, it doesn’t seem weird at all to me your average person like 30+ years after the fall of the Jedi would be like “who”. I imagine if I was some moisture farmer on planet bumfuck nowhere at the height of the Clone Wars I’d still be like “loving bullshitttt” if somebody told me about them.

On top of that, the second thing you mentioned regarding Palpatine anti-Jedi propaganda is actually canon and the text of the movies starting with Palpatine’s whole explanation of why he’s gonna be Emperor now etc.

Then again, the Republic Clone army was like 5 million troopers and that is apparently enough to fight a galaxy wide war. I doubt you could even take a single planet with 5 million troopers.

Star Wars is bad at numbers.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



thrawn527 posted:

It just occurred to me that we still haven't even found out what the bad guys want Baby Yoda for.

Which seems pretty important, knowing the villains motivations.

He wants baby yoda, presumably alive because the bounty would have paid way more that way.

But then he opens fire on the building where he thinks the baby is then tries to burn / smoke them out. :shrug:

So I guess his motivation is yes.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Mandrel posted:

that doctor had a Kaminoan patch on his uniform so some sort of genetic bullshit relating to cloning or bioexperimentation seems likely

That one speeder bike trooper was right: Moff Gideon wants to eat them. Clone and eat. Maybe he thinks this will give him force powers.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



MaoistBanker posted:

https://twitter.com/Jon_Favreau/status/1210652862193098753

Honestly it would have been funny as gently caress if they just cancelled it.

Baby Yoda? Never to be heard from again. That darksaber? Blew our measly CGI budget on it. That's all folks!

The Jawas use their stun gun on Moff Gideon and take it apart for scrap :v:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



zoux posted:

The reaction to the episode has been insanely positive which is nuts for anything SW in this day and age but I did find this deep in the comments on the AV Club review


Where's the lie?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Everyone posted:

BTW, the point of Gideon threatening them at the start and being fine spraying the bar with blaster fire is that while he didn't know where the baby was, he could be 95% certain it wasn't in the bar, because he knows these people well enough (through their detailed ISB files, at least) to know that none of them would be dumb enough to bring the baby with them to meet The Client. However, he doesn't want to immediately kill our heroes, because he knows that they at least know where the baby is. He's willing to kill them, because he figures he can find the baby eventually, but it's be much simpler if they turned the kid over to him or tell him where it is. He might now even be lying about letting them go, because gently caress them once he's got the kid at that point. And if they come to his turf to try a rescue, he'll just kill them then. It's arrogance on Gideon's part, which is a common Imperial fault, but his arrogance isn't unjustified.

That's quite a leap to make. I guess he also knew they had plot armor from their ISB files and that none of them would die when he fired on the building the first time? The way he talked about it, he definitely assumed the baby was in there with them.

And then he tried to burn the building and everyone inside it after IG 11 went inside with Yooda. And finally tried to vaporize all of them with his tie fighter.

Does he want the baby alive or as a pile of ash? :shrug:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



pik_d posted:

I just assumed that was Moff Gideon, but didn't go back to check if that made sense. Didn't that mystery figure have a cape like Gideon?

:same: and he did.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Thumposaurus posted:

A rouge squadron show set up like the A-Team would be:rock:

All their building montages would be for making machines that kills imperials.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



zoux posted:

Well I'm not going to go line by line and debunk that moron's opinions but here's one: he knew that he could be saved by some simple first aid but he was willing to die to preserve The Way.

You know I just remembered in ep4, he took off his helmet to eat. While seated in front of an open window. While watching all the kids play with Yooda.

Good thing no one looked in his general direction. :v:

He should've just told everyone to look away while he took off his helmet and gave himself some first aid spray. Dems da rules!

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Baronjutter posted:

If the typical lifespan of a yoda is 800 years then at 50 years old he's the equiv of maybe 6ish in human years but seems to be not even at the 1-year development level. Given his rate of learning and development by 800 he'd barely have the development of a 20-something, and who the gently caress would listen to a 20-something?

Or maybe baby yoda SHOULD be at the level of a 6 year old but has been totally hosed up from his previous 50 years of living conditions? Mando needs to get this kid to a child psychologist pronto as there could be some serious issues with poor baby yoda.

It's so goofy and so star wars.

They cloned him wrong, as a joke.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Joke Miriam posted:

Did anyone manage to piece together who hired IG-11 and that one sniper to to KILL Baby Yoda? It wasn't Gus or Herzog.

Herzog doesn't care one way or another. Also he absolutely gave out the bounty to everyone through Carl Weathers.

Gideon doesn't seem to care either. See: him murdering Herzog by firing through the building while Yooda was inside, him threatening to open fire with that heavy repeater, him trying to burn them out and finally him firing on them with his Tie Fighter.

I'm beginning to think only that scientist cared about not killing Yooda.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



John Wick of Dogs posted:

He opened fire as punishment for Herzog because he knew the child wasn't actually in there.

The fire and tie situation though I think he was just pissed off and not thinking it through (or had the imperials realized IG-11 was carrying the child at that point?)

If he knew the child wasn't there(there is no indication of this), why wouldn't he keep firing and kill everyone inside?

The only time the imperials could have realized that IG-11 had Yooda was after he killed like all of them coming into town. So yea, Gideon doesn't really care about Yooda being alive.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 8, 2020

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



John Wick of Dogs posted:

Because they knew where the child was

But, they didn't. The speeder bike troopers tried to relay the message but got shut down because Gideon was busy killing Herzog. They were told to wait until Gideon calmed down a bit.

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