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Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013


Zofia Today
Alm: Human Disaster


Lipstick Apathy

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

There really is some cosmic irony at play here. Even One Piece has been eating delays thanks to the virus.
Maybe Oda just wants OP to be done. Like holy poo poo, it's been going on for almost 23 years and he's now in his mid 40's and probably wants to do another manga/character designs/something else. Hell, Miura and George Morikawa were only a year older when they started BERSERK and Ippo respectively. I mean, he probably has carte blanche to keep going as long as he loving wants because hey, as long as it's putting bread on the table for buttloads of people, all coolio for everyone, but at some point you're probably wondering "shouldn't this be winding down already?".

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Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I did one of those "Redraw Sailor Moon" challenges in the Miura style.

The Notorious ZSB
Apr 19, 2004

I SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FUCKING SUCK THIS YEAR!!!


One Piece i just think he knows he can give himself some breath on, it's so established that 3 chapters a month instead of 4 isn't gonna hurt anything about it. And Berserk just is what it is at this point. At least the last chapter kinda felt like we are starting to get ready to setup the end game for Guts and crew.

I'll be very surprised if Guts survives the totality of this story, but he probably deserves it.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

A DAILY DOSE
OF OLD SHOOTERS


PLAY NOW MY LORD



Miura's already straight-up said in interviews that Berserk isn't gonna have a full-on downer ending, because he's too attached to the characters at this point and assumes the fans largely feel the same way, and thinks a downer would be too unsatisfying at this stage.

At the same time, though, an ending that's just full-on happy would feel weird for Berserk.

My prediction is that Guts dies, but takes Griffith (and potentially the rest of the God Hand) with him and somehow re-splits the worlds in the process.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

A DAILY DOSE
OF OLD SHOOTERS


PLAY NOW MY LORD



Also, I'm not overly surprised Berserk is continuing (picking up, even) during the quarantine, since Miura only very recently set up a proper external studio (which was where a lot of the most recent hiatuses came from, iirc). COVID probably just meant he had to put that on hold and keep making Berserk pretty much on his own for a bit.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016


WeedlordGoku69 posted:

Miura's already straight-up said in interviews that Berserk isn't gonna have a full-on downer ending, because he's too attached to the characters at this point and assumes the fans largely feel the same way, and thinks a downer would be too unsatisfying at this stage.

People have been waiting 30 years for the ending. If Guts doesn't get a semblance of a happy ending there will be riots

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012


Guts will survive the ending and the series will end with him lying underneath a tree, except he will be calm and relaxed instead of screaming and covered in blood.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?

I got some theories for how it will end.
I think the most notable would be that Guts isn't going to kill Griffith. Given that his character arc has had him moving away from seeking revenge it feels like him or Casca rushing off to kill him would be a huge regression. I do think Griffith is going to get his at some point, but I think it's going to come from him being defeated by Rickert, in contrast to Guts he's shed his tears and has moved on with his life while at the same time he's become to realize what a monster Griffith has become.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012



lezard_valeth posted:

People have been waiting 30 years for the ending. If Guts doesn't get a semblance of a happy ending there will be riots

I'll angrily wave my walking aid at him.

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010



Illegal Hen

David D. Davidson posted:

I got some theories for how it will end.
I think the most notable would be that Guts isn't going to kill Griffith. Given that his character arc has had him moving away from seeking revenge it feels like him or Casca rushing off to kill him would be a huge regression. I do think Griffith is going to get his at some point, but I think it's going to come from him being defeated by Rickert, in contrast to Guts he's shed his tears and has moved on with his life while at the same time he's become to realize what a monster Griffith has become.

Griffith dying to someone who isn't Guts, who has once more walked away from him never to return, would be the most karmic death for Griffith imo. I can't think of anything that could piss him off more.

Or maybe a repeat of the snow fight, only Guts walks away with the whole crew this time (including demons like Zodd, perhaps), and Griffith is left alone on the hill.

Diabetic
Sep 29, 2006

Type 1 Diabetic - Fuck yo' sugar


Guts going to Griffith saying he forgives him and understands him now because he found his own dream, followed by Griffith shrieking at him then losing to Guts in one swing and Griffith's army fades because he completely loses his beliefs, that's my ending. Or, just make it one big time loop, Griffith gets beaten and turns into old lady to hand his younger self the behelit.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011



Guts can make peace with what happened with Griffith an move on, but forgiving him would be insane.

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk

Griffith's entire setup is based around the subconscious desire of society in general for a savior to come in and rescue them from their short brutish medieval lives. At some point, they're going to end up paying the price for that kind of... forfeiture of agency, I guess? And only the people with the--ahem--guts to try and survive on their own, out from underneath the millennium hawk's wings are going to survive

As for Griffith himself, I think that ultimately he's going to be undone by Guts and Casca for the simple reason that he got to where he is now by sacrificing them... but they're not dead yet. And at some point, if they manage to struggle their way out from the brand's influence in a permanent way, the arbiters of fate are going to come to collect the missing balance from out of Griffith's rear end (figuratively)

Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010





Lipstick Apathy

Rickert killing Griffith somehow would be interesting

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

Invoking fairy dust is not a crime.


Wark Say posted:

Maybe Oda just wants OP to be done. Like holy poo poo, it's been going on for almost 23 years and he's now in his mid 40's and probably wants to do another manga/character designs/something else. Hell, Miura and George Morikawa were only a year older when they started BERSERK and Ippo respectively. I mean, he probably has carte blanche to keep going as long as he loving wants because hey, as long as it's putting bread on the table for buttloads of people, all coolio for everyone, but at some point you're probably wondering "shouldn't this be winding down already?".

Well, maybe he could try speeding things up then? Because it's not like anybody forces him to create the ridiculously complex settings and introduce dozens of new characters with interlocking storylines that have to be solved with every new arc.

Like, the way I read one piece is to check every six months or so to see if the last arc I saw is finally done and then, if done, read it. I think the current wano arc has been going for *checks notes* a billion years.

Star Guarded
Feb 10, 2008



I'd find mostly anything interesting so long as it isn't as simple as Guts killing Griffith, or something overly depressing. Melancholy or bittersweet would be fine, though. Given how much this series has been about the role of vengeance in trauma and healing, I just want something a little meatier than "Guts swings his sword real hard at Griffith." Casca and Rickert having a happier-ish ending would be nice, too, even if Guts doesn't get one.

It'd be cool if the ending blows me away, but given how good the series has been up to this point and how long it's been running, I'd be satisfied with something simpler, too.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS


Ethiser posted:

Guts can make peace with what happened with Griffith an move on, but forgiving him would be insane.

"i bless u for raping my girlfriend"

*puts down the last chapter of Berserk* what a masterpiece

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ETURNA
Jul 3, 2006

Narayan


Isn't it pretty much confirmed that the 'Moon Child' is Guts and Caska's, and that Griffith turns into him whenever there's a full moon? No doubt, Griffith's downfall or complete erasure will result from this somehow. I don't think eliminating the God Hand and the Idea of Evil will be as simple as Guts waving his sword around. Personally, I feel that, just as humanity's collective consciousness created the Idea of Evil, there has to be an Idea of Virtue that has yet to be seen since the majority is occupied with its own suffering.

I don't think there will be a dimensional regression that leads to the material and astral planes separating. If anything, there will be some catalyst that legitimately transforms the world for the better in a grand sense as opposed to the localized facade of Falconia. What that will be is currently beyond me, but Guts and his crew will definitely play a pivotal role in making that happen.

ETURNA fucked around with this message at 02:44 on May 26, 2020

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