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Tanners posted:Of course its Zed Shaw what’s his claim to fame again? feels like a variant of esr at this point
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Progressive JPEG posted:what’s his claim to fame again? feels like a variant of esr at this point 'Rails is a ghetto' which was 100% true and it was a good thing and he hasn't done poo poo worth talking about since then
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Nov 28, 2019 00:26
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zed shaw is annoying but it nowhere near the vileness of esr.
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https://twitter.com/argv0/status/209844647403589632
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theadder posted:echi to be made pharmaczar no you don’t want that
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Nov 28, 2019 00:49
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looking forward to sampling some of pharmaczar echi’s wares when I’m in NZ. 
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Nov 28, 2019 01:49
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:lol @ this double lol because it looks exactly like the Waterfall development methodology e: almost like all the development methodologies are basically the loving same which is: 1) find out what you need to do 2) do that 3) make sure you didn't gently caress something up 4) you're done until someone else does something
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Nov 28, 2019 03:45
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it’s like that scene in indiana jones and the last crusade where he had to choose the correct cup as the holy grail. in this case i’m gonna say that the real agile representation is top row, second from the right because it’s not actually showing any kind of process
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Nov 28, 2019 03:56
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alexandriao posted:double lol because it looks exactly like the Waterfall development methodology for real. how is that stuff different from how any rational person or people would do something? “before agile, we had it all wrong. we kept missing goals because all we were doing was standing around playing soggy cracker. agile changed my life!”
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Nov 28, 2019 04:00
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sure sure but rational people become flabbergasted and easily confused devs real quick apparently and if its not the equivalent of turning digital bolts the whole process goes sideways fast for some reason
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a neurotic ai posted:looking forward to sampling some of pharmaczar echi’s wares when I’m in NZ. we got our own way of brewing jenkem down here
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Nov 28, 2019 04:20
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echinopsis posted:we got our own way of brewing ɯǝʞuǝɾ down here
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Nov 28, 2019 04:25
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waiting on law enforcement to load the plot and warn parents about the dangers that down under jenkem poses to their kids on the school yard
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Nov 28, 2019 05:53
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Its a way of subliminally pressuring you to work harder. This SPRINT we're going to be working on ACCELERATING developer VELOCITY because we abide by the maxim of MOVE FAST and break things. With the constant implication that the insane pressure you've been under to this point hasn't been moving fast and it needs to be FASTER I no joke have actual negative pavlov responses to several words now
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Nov 28, 2019 06:51
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agile is a reaction to what used to be the (worst) case which was here is a 4,000 page product spec document that the Business Analysts spent 9 months creating. We printed it out and put in one binder. that’s a lot of paper so you have to share it between all 8 dev teams. if requirements change the business Analysts will update the appropriate page but will not update the copy in the binder. see them in person to see the updated page. you have 12 months to deliver. I’ve thank god not worked on a team like that, but I’ve been witness to teams that did work that way. they were not v successful
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Nov 28, 2019 07:34
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we just paid a consultant a p deece seven figgies to wave the magic agile wand and now we’re agile. i haven’t noticed anything different though.
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Nov 28, 2019 09:22
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idk why u just don’t make a good product rather than focus really hard on making a half rear end middle project analogies applied to non computer things should be applied extensively imagine if henry ford had used agile when making ford
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Nov 28, 2019 11:08
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it’s because software is more difficult than lesser engineering disciplines, like mechanical engineering, op
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Nov 28, 2019 11:11
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facebook is more difficult and far more important than the first mass produced fossil-fuelled powered car
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echinopsis posted:facebook is more difficult and far more important than the first mass produced fossil-fuelled powered car correct. that car didn’t singlehandedly put the orange man in office.
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Nov 28, 2019 11:22
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this is just the high level design, i'll ping you offline to discuss more of the nitty-gritty.
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Kempy posted:this is just the high level design, i'll ping you offline to discuss more of the nitty-gritty. Let's meet over lunch, because you don't have enough meetings in the day and we can now sacrifice your only break from work, to more work.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:04
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alexandriao posted:Let's meet over lunch, because you don't have enough meetings in the day and we can now sacrifice your only break from work, to more work. 'it was the only time slot on the calendar when everyone was free'
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Nov 28, 2019 15:39
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Salt Fish posted:'it was the only time slot on the calendar when everyone was free'  i get this and i even have it booked and ooo
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Nov 29, 2019 03:58
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echinopsis posted:idk why u just don’t make a good product rather than focus really hard on making a half rear end middle project making a good software is impossible. agile is about never running out of things to do, so management and customers can believe forever that quality is just over the horizon. with releases you have pesky discontinuities encouraging reflection and hindsight and realizing that this isn’t working, never worked, and never will work
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Nov 29, 2019 04:33
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the only quality release you can count on is the one which leads to the peace of the grave
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I loving hate software
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President Beep posted:the only quality release you can count on is the one which leads to the peace of the grave
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Nov 29, 2019 04:43
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Methanar posted:I loving hate software
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fart simpson posted:it’s because software is more difficult than lesser engineering disciplines, like mechanical engineering, op Boeing might actually agree with you there tbf
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Nov 29, 2019 10:26
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agile is like fiber in that it makes poo poo come out faster. its diarrhea for software.
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Nov 29, 2019 19:03
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a rearl pm can run waterfall under any development method
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Agile software development paradigms can be used in other areas of life such as raising children. Its success in child development might be founded on some basic management principles; communication, adaptation, and awareness. In a TED Talk, Bruce Feiler shared how he applied basic agile paradigms to household management and raising children.[121]
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Nov 29, 2019 19:38
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alexandriao posted:double lol because it looks exactly like the Waterfall development methodology For serious though the fundamental thing about "agile" is just trying to get everybody involved to confront and internalize the fact that the work is probably going to be done wrong the first time, and large parts of it are going to need doing again. Whereas waterfall bakes in the attractive and fundamentally dumb assumption that once you get to the end you're done and you can stop.
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Nov 29, 2019 20:17
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suffix posted:Agile software development paradigms can be used in other areas of life such as raising children. Its success in child development might be founded on some basic management principles; communication, adaptation, and awareness. In a TED Talk, Bruce Feiler shared how he applied basic agile paradigms to household management and raising children.[121] get out of bed kids its time for the daily stand up timmy you're down as blocked on "lernin" could you explain please?
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Nov 29, 2019 20:21
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Doom Mathematic posted:For serious though the fundamental thing about "agile" is just trying to get everybody involved to confront and internalize the fact that the work is probably going to be done wrong the first time, and large parts of it are going to need doing again. Whereas waterfall bakes in the attractive and fundamentally dumb assumption that once you get to the end you're done and you can stop. ya like I said. it’s a way to prevent management and users from ever realizing that not just has the software never been good, it will never be good
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agile is evolutionarily adaptive for software teams and this explains 100% of its success; teams that don’t call themselves agile are more likely to be disbanded. over time, this results in agile taking over the industry and looking like a good idea. any effect on software quality is incidental
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Agile is about turning you,the worker, into the sales guy, the business analyst guy, the system designer, the system engineer, the programmer, the qa guy, the project manager and product owner, all rolled into one.That's why management loves it. Also,and I'm completely serious here, it's a conspiracy by Big Post-it to exponentially increase their sales. Edit:maybe also Big kanban , gently caress this rabbit hole goes deep.
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I’d guess atlassian spends a lot of money on “goodwill” making jira look like the solution to everything
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fart simpson posted:we just paid a consultant a p deece seven figgies to wave the magic agile wand and now we’re agile. i haven’t noticed anything different though. you noticed a consultant getting paid and that’s the entire point of agile
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