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qirex posted:doesn't wikipedia have just buckets of funding and they do the pledge drives mostly because they're afraid to stop usually it's code for "i don't understand it but other people seem excited about it so i guess i should be too?"
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Wikipedia hates crypto therefore it is good
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wikipedia is like one of the best websites on the internet. yeah it obviously has a ton of flaws but it's an immensely useful resource.
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divabot posted:Wikipedia hates crypto therefore it is good apparently not NFT's though, for some reason
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I don’t have anything insightful or funny to add but I need somewhere to express my exasperation at the idea and usage of NFTs
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HappyHippo posted:wikipedia is like one of the best websites on the internet. yeah it obviously has a ton of flaws but it's an immensely useful resource. The quality of Wikipedia articles varies tremendously. Some of them are very good, others are simply atrocious.
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Dec 3, 2021 19:43
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https://twitter.com/Zebraengine/status/1466796887323947017 their support team seems kinda disorganized
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Dec 3, 2021 19:46
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i wonder how many monkeys that google doc has harvested already i bet it's hundreds
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Wikipedia posted:Wales is a self-avowed Objectivist,[88] referring to the philosophy invented by writer Ayn Rand in the mid-20th century that emphasizes reason, individualism, and capitalism. Wales first encountered the philosophy through reading Rand's novel The Fountainhead during his undergraduate period[20] and, in 1992, founded an electronic mailing list devoted to "Moderated Discussion of Objectivist Philosophy".[7][109] Though he has stated that the philosophy "colours everything I do and think",[7] he has said, "I think I do a better job—than a lot of people who self-identify as Objectivists—of not pushing my point of view on other people."[110] tbh it's surprising he didn't jump on the crypto train sooner
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Jimmy 'Bear' Whales.
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wikipedia is by leagues and bounds the most useful thing ever created by libertarians. it must be protected
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i don't know why they'd think that bitcoiners would know about such a think as "capital gains tax"
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not to mention that it's $15 for that pizza which is only 14"
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i'm the cheese pizza called "no cheese" that will definitely not lead to a bunch of angry customer support calls
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here's your bitcoin pizza sir, that will be sixteen dollars
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TheFluff posted:i loving hate wikipedia. it's fundamentally anti-intellectual. their general policy of what is considered verifiable fact boils down to always favoring pop-science misconceptions over any sort of deeper understanding of the subject. the more niche the subject is the more likely it is that the wikipedia article is just some complete nonsense or based on ancient public domain books that are based off of even more ancient research. historical subjects are particularly bad. don't ever take anything wikipedia says on norse mythology seriously for example, it's full of made-up neopagan nonsense that has absolutely no basis in reality. like if someone is looking up I dunno "spinor", I'm pretty sure the answer(s) that would help them is either a) it's a complex-valued column vector with two components, or b) no that's not how you spell the name of the guy who played the robot on tng. instead here's the introduction to the wikipedia article: wikipedia posted:In geometry and physics, spinors /spɪnər/ are elements of a complex vector space that can be associated with Euclidean space.[b] Like geometric vectors and more general tensors, spinors transform linearly when the Euclidean space is subjected to a slight (infinitesimal) rotation.[c] However, when a sequence of such small rotations is composed (integrated) to form an overall final rotation, the resulting spinor transformation depends on which sequence of small rotations was used. Unlike vectors and tensors, a spinor transforms to its negative when the space is continuously rotated through a complete turn from 0° to 360° (see picture). This property characterizes spinors: spinors can be viewed as the "square roots" of vectors (although this is inaccurate and may be misleading; they are better viewed as "square roots" of sections of vector bundles – in the case of the exterior algebra bundle of the cotangent bundle, they thus become "square roots" of differential forms).
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Shame Boy posted:i wonder how many monkeys that google doc has harvested already https://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity/status/1466906414358700041
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why would you want to ban crypto scammers from social media? the scams are fun for me, and completely philosophically agreeable to their targets, what’s the problem?
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SubG posted:the main problem with a lot of wikipedia articles on technical subjects is its difficult to determine what audience they're actually intended for, apart from maybe wikipedia editors it’s weird, i definitely feel like i’ve run across a lot of random mathy wiki articles and they’ve been fairly useful occasionally. like they might work out a proof or useful example and i’ve gone back to it occasionally. i only ever look that up or like animals or plants and poo poo, anything historical or about a city or something i just zone out and give up. it’s weird to me the guy is an objectivist. like would ayn rand approve of just giving away the “work” of contributing to wikipedia for free?
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One time I had a really expensive and big pizza like $20 at least but all the vegetarian toppings like mushrooms olives peppers etc were all smothered and cooked under the thick cheese coating while all the meat toppings like sausage and slices of pork etc were cooked above the cheese and it was loving awesome. This bitcoin pizza thing is the polar opposite of that
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Eeyo posted:it’s weird to me the guy is an objectivist. like would ayn rand approve of just giving away the “work” of contributing to wikipedia for free? yeah this is really throwing me, the whole concept of wikipedia violates everything objectivism stands for
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Eeyo posted:it’s weird, i definitely feel like i’ve run across a lot of random mathy wiki articles and they’ve been fairly useful occasionally. like they might work out a proof or useful example and i’ve gone back to it occasionally. rand was fine with charity as long as you did it for the right ideologically pure, selfish reasons. so like you couldn't just donate to a cause because they need the money you have to do it because it makes you feel good or you get something out of it or whatever.
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like if you wanna go hyper-randroid you have to reinterpret all sorts of natural human behaviors through hosed up lenses like that. stop a child from touching a hot stove? you didn't do that out of empathy or compassion or the innate human reflex reaction to seeing imminent harm come to someone else, no. you did it because if the kid burned his hand you would have to deal with an annoying crying child, and by preventing it you get to feel smug self-satisfaction. all of this definitely went through your head in the fraction of a second before you acted and certainly isn't back-rationalizing, yep.
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Shame Boy posted:like if you wanna go hyper-randroid you have to reinterpret all sorts of natural human behaviors through hosed up lenses like that. stop a child from touching a hot stove? you didn't do that out of empathy or compassion or the innate human reflex reaction to seeing imminent harm come to someone else, no. you did it because if the kid burned his hand you would have to deal with an annoying crying child, and by preventing it you get to feel smug self-satisfaction. all of this definitely went through your head in the fraction of a second before you acted and certainly isn't back-rationalizing, yep. Okay what about letting your toaster run a ponzi to pay off the debt it took on from the blender's bad decisions regarding letting your washing machine prostitute itself to strangers coming inside you home at 4 AM most of which are a clown that ends up in a barrel going down a river huh??????????????????????????
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wales seems like a last-gen, usenet-era net.libertarian. a lot of the hardcore open source/cypherpunks loons were "information yearns to be free" libertarians, who mostly saw themselves as leet deckers who were protagonists of their very own epic shadowrun campaign. a lot of these guys thought that the wave of the future was something like the street performer protocol, where highly skilled individuals will attract wealthy patrons (or clouds of patrons with just a couple of bucks each) who will subsidise the development of poo poo they want. so the leet hackers will always get paid even if what they're producing ends up publicly available because the beep boop logical actors with the dollars will want to pay them because they recognise the value they represent the fact that wikipedia makes millions more than its operational overhead via panhandling no doubt reinforces that particular belief. and the fact that it doesn't work for the vast majority of people just means they're not brilliant enough or whatever
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on the one hand it's an obvious scam, on the other hand i can see bitcoin companies using a google form for stuff like that
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Shame Boy posted:someone should tell wikipedia dracula Isn’t he in the assisted-living home?
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SubG posted:which, you know, great. but i don't think that's going to be much use to anyone who's found themselves needing to look it up. it's written to avoid "well actually" arguments from people who absolutely don't have to look it up in the first place That last sentence sounds like it should be chiseled in a University’s keystone somewhere. If really good mathematics-focused authors wrote like this there would never be people learning math topics by themselves. I know it’s not as common as like, maybe amateur golfers, but I have read math-focused teaching-level textbooks more “human” than that. I’ve seen Numberphile videos on YouTube that explained Spinors better and plainer than that. You’d probably get a more concrete, concise definition from r/askmath just by bringing up the question!
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Boxturret posted:on the one hand it's an obvious scam, on the other hand i can see bitcoin companies using a google form for stuff like that
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > buttcoin: on the one hand it's an obvious scam
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Boxturret posted:on the one hand it's an obvious scam, on the other hand i can see bitcoin companies using a google form for stuff like that our incompetence is so pervasive, it's also indirectly harmful, too!
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Eeyo posted:it’s weird, i definitely feel like i’ve run across a lot of random mathy wiki articles and they’ve been fairly useful occasionally. like they might work out a proof or useful example and i’ve gone back to it occasionally. he's making millions off the work of unpaid volunteers contributing their work for free to the thing he barely has to lift a finger to run sounds pretty objectivist to me
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Back in uni I would use Wikipedia to come up with a lexicon of search terms I could use in the library and google to get actually useful stuff. Sometimes I would follow the source links too. It may often be full of crap, but it's a pretty good starting point for doing research, as long as you don't end there.
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Is archive.org an ok place to give money to? they're ebegging and I gave them $10.
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archive.org’s hosting costs are apparently gigantic since they host a lot of downloadable stuff, their ebook and magazine archives especially are way better for research than wikipedia so yeah they’re way more worth a donation
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archive.org has a few dumb dumbs like that time they hosted some crypto poo poo conference or whatever it was, but in general it's a good thing doing good work most of the time
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Boxturret posted:meatballs...piled high! *eyes glaze over reading four-paragraph wikipedia intro* ah... spinors, are another name for meatballs. That's a lot easier
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