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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Somewhere in the article it said Mike Long bought a huge mansion with a four car garage. He wasn't making that much money from cheating at fishing. What the hell did he do for a living? Those fishing guys have tons of sponsors.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Somewhere in the article it said Mike Long bought a huge mansion with a four car garage. He wasn't making that much money from cheating at fishing. What the hell did he do for a living? Probably taught other people how to cheat at fishing. I think he was the leader of the Cerulean City gym too. That probably pays well.
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Nov 24, 2019 03:29
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I had a friend in school who turned pro bass angler and he's only won two tournaments out of 100 but has almost $600k in winnings alone
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Nov 24, 2019 03:33
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One of the more interesting things I learned was that the "big fish" option is a thing -- and that often in these tournaments it doesn't sound like a particularly large fish. Sometimes the biggest fish in a day would be like a little less than six pounds? I guess all those magazine covers made me thing these guys were landing 15 pound fish 24/7. IDK I just fish for crappie when I do fish and that's a rarity.
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The Dregs posted:Wow. I can see it doing well at Hearthsone, but I thought AI was years away from being able to dominate something as complicated as DOTA. strategically the ai isn't very good but it makes up for it with perfect reaction time and the hive-mind ability to make all 5 heroes instantaneously execute a singular gameplan also dota has a lot of small binary ways to measure success. killing your opponent, not getting killed, getting last hits, etc. are almost universally good outcomes, but in ccgs it's a lot more unclear how to maximize your long-terms chances of success
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Nov 24, 2019 05:14
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Mulaney Power Move posted:I stopped when I realized he was just faking records. I thought somehow he was cheating in actual fishing tournaments. Oh man you missed the fish planting. And thanks OP now I know what all those fishing terms are. Sometimes is it really cheating if it's just not specified in the rules? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokey_Yunick quote:Another Yunick improvisation was getting around the regulations specifying a maximum size for the fuel tank, by using 11-foot (3 meter) coils of 2-inch (5-centimeter) diameter tubing for the fuel line to add about 5 gallons (19 liters) to the car's fuel capacity. Once, NASCAR officials came up with a list of nine items for Yunick to fix before the car would be allowed on the track. The suspicious NASCAR officials had removed the tank for inspection. Yunick started the car with no gas tank and said "Better make it ten,"[4] and drove it back to the pits. He used a basketball in the fuel tank which could be inflated when the car's fuel capacity was checked and deflated for the race. quote:In another incident, Yunick showed up for a race with stock rear fenders that partially covered the rear tires of his Chevelle. The car qualified well due to improved aerodynamics but the other teams were laughing and wondering how he was going to change the tires during pit stops. After qualifying, Yunick promptly cut out the rear fender openings. The other teams complained to NASCAR but Smokey said, "The rules say that I CAN cut out the rear fenders but it doesn't say WHEN I can cut them."
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Nov 24, 2019 05:23
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Skynet but the net is for fish
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Nov 24, 2019 06:11
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Milo and POTUS posted:Skynet but the net is for fish so....Fishnet?
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Nov 24, 2019 06:39
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God I love low stakes corruption.
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epsilon posted:One of the more interesting things I learned was that the "big fish" option is a thing -- and that often in these tournaments it doesn't sound like a particularly large fish. Sometimes the biggest fish in a day would be like a little less than six pounds? I guess all those magazine covers made me thing these guys were landing 15 pound fish 24/7. IDK I just fish for crappie when I do fish and that's a rarity. A six pound bass wont set any records, but you dont catch fish like that everyday just anywhere, which is why this fraud would lose his poo poo if he hooked a 2lb bass in a tournament without cheating
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Nov 24, 2019 08:30
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Linux Pirate posted:But yeah gently caress anyone who takes fishing super seriously. I'm all about catch and release.. Oh those fish still mostly die, try not to kid yourself.
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Nov 24, 2019 11:16
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its fine to cheat at solo activities but if you cheat to gain an advantage over others you should be killed IMO
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Nov 24, 2019 11:18
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It’s really remarkable to be that he could just say he caught stuff repeatedly, produce the same lovely picture, and it still took people 25 years to do something about it. I thought exaggerating about the size of the fish you caught was as old as time. Still a very interesting article and well worth the read.
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Nov 24, 2019 15:47
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Yeah, what amazed me was how much of it boiled down to honesty policy.
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Nov 24, 2019 15:50
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It may come as a shock to you, lowly peasant who will go nowhere in life, but all the most successful people are cheaters All top athletes cheat and use PED's Those beautiful people on instagram? Surgeries and PED's Rich businessmen? Walked over a thousand bodies to get where they are Innovators like Elon Musk? Paid others to invent things and then took all the credit Your president? Just constantly lied about poo poo until he became your leader If you play the game by the rules, you will always be beaten by the countless people who do not
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Nov 24, 2019 15:52
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Fartbox posted:It may come as a shock to you, lowly peasant who will go nowhere in life, but all the most successful people are cheaters walking over a thousand bodies isn’t cheating
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Nov 24, 2019 17:01
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Really great article. I loved the twist at the end that the people who had been banned recently from tournaments were caught because mike long went out and videotaped them doing exactly what he did
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Nov 24, 2019 17:10
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I love poo poo like this. Here's another one: Cheating in pro Scrabble.
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Nov 24, 2019 17:18
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I watched part of the video at the end where the guy films mike fishing. Am I understanding it correctly that all he does is wait for a fish to swim by and hook the side of it? I’m guessing that’s not allowed in tournament fishing.
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Nov 24, 2019 17:20
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poetry slam isn't a thing anymore because the governing board collapsed thanks to a conspiracy between some high ranking officials to steal money and not investigate it.
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Nov 24, 2019 17:40
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Romes128 posted:I watched part of the video at the end where the guy films mike fishing. Am I understanding it correctly that all he does is wait for a fish to swim by and hook the side of it? That’s part of what he does to cheat. It’s called “snagging” or “snag fishing” and catching fish using that technique is against tournament rules. They’re supposed to use a lure and get the fish to bite it.
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Fartbox posted:It may come as a shock to you, lowly peasant who will go nowhere in life, but all the most successful people are cheaters
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Nov 24, 2019 18:02
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Sounds like he is a genius
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Nov 24, 2019 18:09
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That was a really interesting read. Holy poo poo he really ramped up in the last few pages of the article. I didn't get some of the terminology though. On page 7 it says he sighted fish 'locked on a bed'. Does that just mean a fish was sticking to one specific area?
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Nov 24, 2019 18:24
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Romes128 posted:I watched part of the video at the end where the guy films mike fishing. Am I understanding it correctly that all he does is wait for a fish to swim by and hook the side of it? Bass spawn in shallow water, so you can usually just see where they are. They make little beds on soft bottoms and hover over them to protect their eggs. He doesnt have to wait for them to swim by. He just throws treble hooks at their face while they sit there.
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LadyPictureShow posted:That was a really interesting read. Holy poo poo he really ramped up in the last few pages of the article. See my previous post.
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Nov 24, 2019 18:37
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Imagining the bass fishing cheating story play out in my head everyone has mullets and mustaches. Even the 13 year old.
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Nov 24, 2019 18:45
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make cheating a capital crime
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There's also Igor Rausis a Latvian Grandmaster who got caught in a French bathroom with a chess program in his hand to tell him the next move at a tournament. He had been under a lot of suspicion beforehand because his rating had been plateaued for decades when he all-of-a-sudden began improving. The chess organizing body said that what he was doing was technically legal because he had been taking advantage of an obscure rule to grind out ratings by repeatedly playing much weaker opponents but his rating would have required him to have perfect play against even those much weaker opponents. Then they caught him hiding a smartphone in his underwear.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Bass spawn in shallow water, so you can usually just see where they are. They make little beds on soft bottoms and hover over them to protect their eggs. He doesnt have to wait for them to swim by. He just throws treble hooks at their face while they sit there. That was my favorite twist in the article, he doesn't actually know how to legitimately fish for bass.
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also thanks to OP and others for hyping how good this article really is or might have not read the whole thing
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i didn't watch the whole video but at one point i noticed he kept spinning donuts with his trolling motor and i was wondering why -- turns out it was just to tire out a bass that wouldn't go far from its spawning bed to the point where he could just net it.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:33
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Specifically targeting animals trying to defend their eggs/young is insanely scummy. Give this guy the chair imo.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:35
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that's actually what catfish noodling is and everyone thinks it's cool and good
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Nov 24, 2019 22:36
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in itself, however, targeting fish during the spawn is legit and requires real fishing skills and tactics and can be harder than normal because big trophy female bass are less likely to strike.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:that's actually what catfish noodling is and everyone thinks it's cool and good Is that the crazy thing where they punch the catfish in the mouth and their fist comes out the gills?
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Nov 24, 2019 22:53
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Imagine if he actually killed someone in the bass deception
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ilmucche posted:Is that the crazy thing where they punch the catfish in the mouth and their fist comes out the gills? it's where rednecks, mostly in Louisiana, take off their shirts and rub mud all over their bodies, jump in the water, and then stick their hands in logs and wait for a spawning flathead catfish to latch on to their hamfists.
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although i grant you, noodling is not without risk. a snapper turtle could take bit their hands off. they could get snake bit. saying "gently caress them gators" usually isn't enough to stop them from putting you in a death roll.
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"there's a leech on my dick" -- catfish noodler
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