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Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

MisterOblivious posted:

"Food irradiation is permitted by over 60 countries, with about 500,000 metric tons of food annually processed worldwide." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation

"In fact, you’re probably already eating irradiated products. About a third of dried herbs and spices are irradiated to prevent salmonella, and imported fruits like mangoes and papayas are sometimes zapped to kill invasive insects. The technique is also used to sterilize medical equipment like gloves, bandages, and syringes, as well as personal-care products like contact lens solution and baby bottle nipples."
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/08/food-irradiation/


It's not all gamma radiation though

And it is absolutely worth remembering that radiation doesn't contaminate or linger in food or anything. I know most people here are aware of that, but I've had otherwise well educated engineers lose all common sense when radiation comes into the picture.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Unless it's neutron radiation

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Food cannot be sold as USDA organic if it has been irradiated.

Burning fossil energy to heat mashed mutant vegetables in a hermetically sealed jar: cool & good

Exposing fruit to high energy light: absolute heresy

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Dirk the Average posted:

And it is absolutely worth remembering that radiation doesn't contaminate or linger in food or anything. I know most people here are aware of that, but I've had otherwise well educated engineers lose all common sense when radiation comes into the picture.

ZOOMIES BAD!

Artemis J Brassnuts
Jan 2, 2009
I regret😢 to inform📢 I am the most sexually🍆 vanilla 🍦straight 📏 dude😰 on the planet🌎

Dirk the Average posted:

And it is absolutely worth remembering that radiation doesn't contaminate or linger in food or anything. I know most people here are aware of that, but I've had otherwise well educated engineers lose all common sense when radiation comes into the picture.
How is radiation bad for people but okay for food? Like, aren’t we all basically meat anyway? Is this a “the dose makes the poison” scenario?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Artemis J Brassnuts posted:

How is radiation bad for people but okay for food? Like, aren’t we all basically meat anyway? Is this a “the dose makes the poison” scenario?

It is not okay for the food. It kills the gently caress out of the food. However, generally speaking we are of the opinion that food is supposed to be dead, so we don't really object.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Artemis J Brassnuts posted:

How is radiation bad for people but okay for food? Like, aren’t we all basically meat anyway? Is this a “the dose makes the poison” scenario?

The main problem with radiation is DNA damage, which doesn't really matter if your cells aren't replicating.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Potato Salad posted:

the real osha violation is allowing septugenerians with brains poisoned by leaded gasoline in their childhood to operate equipment far heavier than they are meaningfully qualified to?

Gonna be interesting seeing the next generation that doesn't even know how to change a tyre get along.

The Real Amethyst
Apr 20, 2018

When no one was looking, Serval took forty Japari buns. She took 40 buns. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
Just finished cleaning up after the previous nights flood. Good job everyone, now we can open again tomorrow :thumbsup:
....you hear that? :catstare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JleNIxYqbTo

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


No sound but I can almost hear in my head the " OH FFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffff"

:stonk:

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


At some point they're gonna have to abandon the ground floor of Venice and move up a level

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

aphid_licker posted:

At some point they're gonna have to abandon the ground floor of Venice and move up a level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaXdLWt17A

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Let us not forget the conventionally bred and perfect for chips Lenape potato.

I love when science does a fruit.

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toplitzin fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Oct 13, 2020

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

aphid_licker posted:

At some point they're gonna have to abandon the ground floor of Venice and move up a level

Haven't they already done that several times?

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Platystemon posted:

Food cannot be sold as USDA organic if it has been irradiated.

It's as if Organic certification is more of a lifestyle brand than something that indicates sustainable farming and avoiding bad pesticides.

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Sleep, rest, do your best.

The Lone Badger posted:

Haven't they already done that several times?

Yeah we have Venice now, before that it was IVenice, and when we build on top of this one we get VIenice.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

The Lone Badger posted:

Haven't they already done that several times?

The MOSE system in Venice was just deployed for the first time recently and it worked.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


PringleCreamEgg posted:

Yeah we have Venice now, before that it was IVenice, and when we build on top of this one we get VIenice.

IVery good fellow Roman.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Artemis J Brassnuts posted:

How is radiation bad for people but okay for food? Like, aren’t we all basically meat anyway? Is this a “the dose makes the poison” scenario?

It’s bad for people but O.K. for food in the same way that application of a meat tenderiser is bad for people but O.K. for food.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Humphreys posted:

Gonna be interesting seeing the next generation that doesn't even know how to change a tyre get along.

I was somewhat taken aback to learn that the flat tire mitigation solution in my new (to me) car is not only not a full size spare, but also not even a donut: it’s literally just a can of fix-a-flat and a small air compressor.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

ulmont posted:

I was somewhat taken aback to learn that the flat tire mitigation solution in my new (to me) car is not only not a full size spare, but also not even a donut: it’s literally just a can of fix-a-flat and a small air compressor.
Still somehow a step up from run flats you're supposed to drive to the tire shop on.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

ulmont posted:

I was somewhat taken aback to learn that the flat tire mitigation solution in my new (to me) car is not only not a full size spare, but also not even a donut: it’s literally just a can of fix-a-flat and a small air compressor.

No need to learn to change a tire if you don't have a spare. :smug:

Most new cars have no spare because it saves weight and is therefore more fuel efficient.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
*looking it over* That's not so bad, sometimes you gotta sit awkwardly on a scaffold.
*noticing half balanced on a mech shovel* :stare:
*noticing the goddamn thing is on wheels* :stonk:

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



The wheels are in a groove. It's not going to move much!

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/christmas-decorated-cone-weed-north-carolina-town-raises/story?id=51281090


[quote="Christmas-decorated Cone Weed in North Carolina town raises more than $14,000 for charity

"]
Once the community got wind of the festively decorated weed, “It exploded."

By ELIZA MURPHY

November 21, 2017, 2:47 PM ET


Cone Weed Christmas craze takes over North Carolina town, raising more than $14,000 for charityThe Huntersville Fire Department has gone viral for its updates on a weed growing out of a traffic cone anonymously decorated for the holidays that has inspired raising thousands for charity.Huntersville Fire Department

— -- What started as a roadside weed growing out of a cone has blossomed into a community effort raising thousands for charity this Christmas.
The Cone Weed has become a sensation in Huntersville, North Carolina, after someone anonymously decorated the weed for the holidays.

The Huntersville Fire Department has been sending updates about the saga of the Cone Weed, which have gone viral on social media, as the holiday spirited plant continued to grow.
“Two weeks ago it was suddenly decorated in the spirit of Christmas. We’re calling it magic,” the fire department’s public information officer, Bill Suthard, told ABC News. “It was the magic of the season. It had Christmas lights on it, it had a timer to come on at 7:30 at night and would go off in the morning. It had ornaments.”

Once the community got wind of the festively decorated weed, he said, “It exploded.”
“Someone put a tree skirt around it, someone hung a ‘Merry Christmas’ sign around it, news networks were hanging their own ornaments on there and it became this fun thing,” said Suthard.

The weed has been growing since March after the specific spot it was growing on wasn’t mowed for months due to the cone blocking it.
“It started to die towards the end of the summer, and we may or may not have nursed it back to life,” Suthard said with a laugh. “Everybody in the community was already calling it Cone Weed. All the kids in the school buses going by had named it Cone Weed.”

“I thought I might sell 20 shirts. That was my goal, but this weed has rallied people around it,” Blackmore, who said he’s donating all proceeds to a charity, HopeMatch.org, told ABC News.

They’ve now sold more than 950 shirts and raised more than $14,000 for families in need during the holidays.
But yesterday, Cone Weed mysteriously went missing. After much investigation and ruckus on social media, Suthard found out the state Department of Transportation removed Cone Weed for being “so close to the road.”
“The state road crew that stole the cone, they’re all feeling pretty bad about it. They just didn’t know,” said Suthard. “They tracked it back to a DOT repair yard and brought it back. We got 100 percent of the decorations back, but the weed is now dead.”
Although the physical weed is now gone, Cone Weed will live on forever. The cone and decorations are proudly on display at the fire station to continue spreading Christmas cheer all season long.


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This warmed my heart today when I saw it posted to my neighborhood page. Apparently it happened 3 years ago in my neck of the woods but I just learned about it now. I think it suits this thread perfectly.

https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/934435256995844096?s=19

Artemis J Brassnuts
Jan 2, 2009
I regret😢 to inform📢 I am the most sexually🍆 vanilla 🍦straight 📏 dude😰 on the planet🌎

Platystemon posted:

It’s bad for people but O.K. for food in the same way that application of a meat tenderiser is bad for people but O.K. for food.
I appreciate all the answers but this one is my favorite.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

toplitzin posted:

Let us not forget the conventionally bred and perfect for chips Lenape potato.

I love when science does a fruit.



are they injecting that strawberry with viagra?

Fat Loser
May 27, 2004

LifeSunDeath posted:

are they injecting that strawberry with viagra?

Are you not?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Xaintrailles posted:

The main problem with radiation is DNA damage, which doesn't really matter if your cells aren't replicating.

Food irradiation can (not "does," it depends on the dose, which varies according to the purpose of the irradiation, and the food in question) cause loss of micronutrients, specifically fragile ones like Vitamin A, B1, and C.

Of course, so can cooking.

toplitzin posted:

Let us not forget the conventionally bred and perfect for chips Lenape potato.

I love when science does a fruit.

" but it had to be pulled from the market in 1970 after findings of its high glycoalkaloid content....The variety has been cited as an example of how conventional plant breeding can produce varieties with high levels of toxins and this has been compared with the relatively lower risk of potential unintended health effects from genetically engineered crops (GM crops).[2][8] In 1992 the Los Angeles Times reported that critics of GM crops cited it as an example of the problems they expected GM crops to create, despite the Lenape being a conventionally bred variety and not GM, while advocates noted that lessons learned from Lenape meant that regulations were in place to prevent a recurrence."

Perfect.

The Real Amethyst
Apr 20, 2018

When no one was looking, Serval took forty Japari buns. She took 40 buns. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013




New Fast and Furious movie going to be lit.

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




MisterOblivious posted:

There are a lot of folks that don't understand how this works:

350-450° oil, water sinks below oil

water boils and turns to steam at 212°

water instantly turns to 350-450° water....aka steam

steam instantly expands, EXPLODES the OIL above it OUT INTO A GIANT MIST

GIANT BALL OF MISTED OIL catches on fire, because the surface oil is *already* on fire. AKA GIANT loving OIL FUELED FIREBALL


(we haven't even gotten in to how dangerous gas fryers are yet)

You can use water in approved deep fryer fire suppression systems, it just needs to be highly atomized. We had water fog systems in all the galleys and in high risk machinery spaces on the last cruise ship I worked on. https://youtu.be/4liOYmVjyB8

Edit sorry to dig this post up, I'm playing catch up.

Cancelbot
Nov 22, 2006

Canceling spam since 1928




How does that even happen?

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Cancelbot posted:



How does that even happen?

It doesn't, it's just a comic.

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender
I was curious as to what it would take to get that back on the tracks. According to Google, those locomotives are probably around 220 tonnes. Most large mobile cranes can only go up to 100 tonnes, but the big ones can do 200-700.

And I stumbled across the Taisun dock crane, which can lift 20,000 tonnes. :stare:

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
You can always use more than one mobile crane, I think there were pictures of that the last time a train derailment was posted here.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

minato posted:

I was curious as to what it would take to get that back on the tracks. According to Google, those locomotives are probably around 220 tonnes. Most large mobile cranes can only go up to 100 tonnes, but the big ones can do 200-700.

And I stumbled across the Taisun dock crane, which can lift 20,000 tonnes. :stare:

Eh, all you need is a bunch of jacklifts to raise it just a bit, then build new tracks under it!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

toplitzin posted:

Let us not forget the conventionally bred and perfect for chips Lenape potato.

I love when science does a fruit.


quote:

16–35 mg of glycoalkaloids per 100 g of fresh potato compared to 3–18 mg

That sounds… underwhelming?

If gorging on Burbank Russets doesn’t cause sickness, eating the Lenape in moderation won’t.

I get why it had to be taken off the market, but it’s hardly a horror story.

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Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Nenonen posted:

Eh, all you need is a bunch of jacklifts to raise it just a bit, then build new tracks under it!

You're half right: jack it up, but then just give it a shove to tip it off the jacks and back onto the tracks

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