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quote:“This fact is unfortunate, because in an intentional way the ladder of the worker who was painting my house was demolished. Thank God there have been no cases to regret, the boy is alive,” he told RPP News Is there an OSHA thing about news services obviously just machine translating stuff?
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hemale in pain posted:when im normal cycling i do try to remind myself that someone can murder me and not face any consequences for it He had to pay 1800 bucks, and a short driving ban which he argued against. He even fell asleep in the cop car leaving the scene and refused to accept guilt or look at the families in court...he's obviously suffered enough.
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SealHammer posted:I I had a similar incident once, I was at a range that allowed you to draw and fire from the holster- many ranges don't allow this for safety reasons. I was using a DAO semi-automatic, which has no safety. DAO is a pistol that can never be cocked, it always requires a long, heavy trigger pull. The range officer saw that my hammer was down, and for some reason had never heard of DAO pistols and insisted that all semi-automatics had to be cocked & locked in the holsters - that is, hammer cocked with safety on. I eventually just cleared the pistol, put it down and asked him to do it for me. After a few minutes of fiddling with it he muttered "carry on" and wandered away. I'm glad they pay attention to safety issues though. Edit: carrying hammer down with a SAO pistols unsafe.
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Smiling Jack posted:I'm glad they pay attention to safety issues though. This. I'd much rather have to have a conversation with an inexperienced RO than have one there, sleeping. Which has happened to me at a local range. I went to ask where I should put my misfires, and zzzzzzzz. Unrelated, I stopped going to that range several years ago and it burned down at like 3am a few months ago. I'm just going to assume some OSHA poo poo because that place was a dang deathtrap, fire safety-wise.
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obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RkRTs9k7hY&t=60s
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Ahh. It's so satisfying watching cops greatly increase their lead exposure in confined spaces for target practice. I've never been fond of indoor ranges. Used to go to one a few years back, but there's just no way to make shooting indoors feel comfortable to me. Especially if they let people in with shotguns who want to use birdshot on a paper zombie target. That place shut down a year or two ago.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Ahh. It's so satisfying watching cops greatly increase their lead exposure in confined spaces for target practice. Poor ventilation is a huge factor in me choosing to drive up to the mountains to shoot, instead of going to the local lead-filled shooting-dungeon. The only upside to indoor ranges is closeness, and sometimes folks rent stuff like a SCAR and let others fire it. My ex has a big ol' USMC tattoo that seems to make folks want to let her handle the fancy guns they're renting so that's neat. EDIT: I feel like there should be a separate thread for range OSHA, because that's a hotbed for a specific type of stupid Vanadium Dame fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 17:30
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what the hell are they shooting, dragon's breath?
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Jan 13, 2020 17:37
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BMan posted:what the hell are they shooting, dragon's breath? There’s next to no recoil, maybe some kind of flash and sound blank less-than-lethal?
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I don't know how they could stand to breathe in there. Even before the fire started the room looked full of smoke.
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worth noting that the rates of youth violence have almost perfectly tracked the utilization of of leaded gasoline with a 15-year lag. the phaseout started in the mid-70s and by 1990 youth violence was on the decline, contrary to all predictions at the time. it's now at a historic (post-ww2) low and so is airborne lead concentration. cops a re already murderous psychopaths, of course, but the lead exposure probably doesn't help
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By popular demand posted:Quick aside: that man seems to have plenty of upper body strength, wouldn't be be able to get around on crutches? He's a door to door wheelchair salesman. Gotta make new customers.
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Sagebrush posted:worth noting that the rates of youth violence have almost perfectly tracked the utilization of of leaded gasoline with a 15-year lag. the phaseout started in the mid-70s and by 1990 youth violence was on the decline, contrary to all predictions at the time. it's now at a historic (post-ww2) low and so is airborne lead concentration. It took forever to get that done as US petroleum industry argued hard against removing lead from gas even as people when literally insane inside their own plants from having to handle Tetraethyl Lead. https://www.pittmed.health.pitt.edu/story/houses-butterflies This was also after nearly every other country had said "gently caress no, this stuff is crazy toxic, we'll use Ethanol for anti-knock" Thomas Midgley was an absolute fuckstain https://youtu.be/dPATHBg5-zw
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Sagebrush posted:worth noting that the rates of youth violence have almost perfectly tracked the utilization of of leaded gasoline with a 15-year lag. the phaseout started in the mid-70s and by 1990 youth violence was on the decline, contrary to all predictions at the time. it's now at a historic (post-ww2) low and so is airborne lead concentration. For real? Not just some correlation, but showing a real link?
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Shut up Meg posted:For real? Not just some correlation, but showing a real link? I guess check the Flint, MI police scanner in 2029.
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I often wonder if the lead poisoning is a contributing factor to Trump and Brexit, and the general shittiness of Boomers.
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Shut up Meg posted:For real? Not just some correlation, but showing a real link? The link was well established by the 1970s, and was largely known even prior to the 20th Century, its where the idea of the Mad Hatter came from, even the Romans knew exposure to lead often led to madness and violent behavior.
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Shut up Meg posted:For real? Not just some correlation, but showing a real link? Yes, there’s a study that found data so granular that they were able to track when individual gas stations switched to unleaded and link it to neighbourhood crime rate declines. e: ^the Mad Hatter was mercury, not lead
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CommieGIR posted:It took forever to get that done as US petroleum industry argued hard against removing lead from gas even as people when literally insane inside their own plants from having to handle Tetraethyl Lead. Just because Capitalism has never valued human life over profits doesn't mean that they wont start doing that now you see.
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Lazyhound posted:Yes, there’s a study that found data so granular that they were able to track when individual gas stations switched to unleaded and link it to neighbourhood crime rate declines. True, I stand corrected.
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CommieGIR posted:The link was well established by the 1970s, and was largely known even prior to the 20th Century, its where the idea of the Mad Hatter came from, even the Romans knew exposure to lead often led to madness and violent behavior. Pretty sure the mad hatter was mercury E: lol yes
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Jan 13, 2020 18:56
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Yes, mercury was used in the process of making felt.
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Jan 13, 2020 18:59
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My favourite mercury madman is Ivan the terrible, his habit of drinking mercury wasn't solely to blame for how hosed up he was but it definitely didn't help.
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Jan 13, 2020 19:06
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CommieGIR posted:even the Romans knew exposure to lead often led to madness and violent behavior. Didn't stop them from using lead pipes, lead cups, lead cooking pots, and white lead face paint
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CommieGIR posted:The link was well established by the 1970s, and was largely known even prior to the 20th Century, even the Romans knew exposure to lead often led to madness and violent behavior. Then they did some more studies fairly recently and showed that there was no link, not even correlation when you looked at the numbers properly. So, I always get interested when they prove/disprove these things. Lazyhound posted:Yes, there’s a study that found data so granular that they were able to track when individual gas stations switched to unleaded and link it to neighbourhood crime rate declines. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40593353 and gently caress this guy and the oil/chemical companies:  quote:About a century ago, when General Motors had first proposed adding lead to petrol - in order to improve performance - scientists were alarmed. They urged the government to investigate the public health implications. Oh, and he went onto invent CFC, the greenhouse gas
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Folks used to straight up drink metallic mercury to aid digestion or whatever else ailed you. Which, if you didn't know much about science, would seem pretty awesome. Mercury is cool looking and fairly unique. Also, stuff like this was sold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_mass
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Shut up Meg posted:and gently caress this guy and the oil/chemical companies: He also became disabled later in life, designed a contraption made of ropes and pulleys to help him get around and subsequently strangled himself. TO DEATH.
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Erisian Automata posted:Folks used to straight up drink metallic mercury to aid digestion or whatever else ailed you. Which, if you didn't know much about science, would seem pretty awesome. Mercury is cool looking and fairly unique. Also antimony pills to make you poo poo. You would fish the pill out of your poo poo and reuse it.
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BMan posted:Also antimony pills to make you poo poo. You would fish the pill out of your poo poo and reuse it. Wait you're only supposed to do that with antimony pills?
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I think you will find the reduction in crime rate is because our boys in blue must use the energy density inferior octane boosters and they run out of gas before catching all the criminals they used to be able to on a nice leaded gas tank. I am immensely kidding but the causation of the crime drop is still contrevertible and I don't want to stick a fork in it because the obvious cause is the lead but society usually finds ways to be weirder than obvious.
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BMan posted:Also antimony pills to make you poo poo. You would fish the pill out of your poo poo and reuse it. Ah, another reason to buy some metallic antimony.
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BMan posted:Didn't stop them from using lead pipes, lead cups, lead cooking pots, and white lead face paint Well, we know CO2/Methane increase global warming, but here we are slowly killing ourselves. quote:Various writers in ancient Rome considered lead to be a poison, either explicitly or implicitly, including Pliny the Elder, Dioscurides, Galen, Celsus and Vitruvius (80–70 BCE); it was Vitruvius who described lead plumbing specifically to be unhealthy.[6] The epidemics of saturnine colic (17th century) and Devonshire colic both lasted for decades, the latter of which was only recognized by George Baker in 1767 as being caused by lead ingestion some 70 years after it was first recognized as a disease.[7] Lead use and concomitant poisoning of lead workers increased mark Industrial Revolution.[7] The toxic effects of lead in workers were recognized by science in the 19th century, and the first laws regulating lead exposure in the workplace came about in the UK in the 1870s-1880s.[7] The first documented poisoning from lead paint ingestion was in 1914
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BMan posted:Didn't stop them from using lead pipes, lead cups, lead cooking pots, and white lead face paint I read an article once that tracked the rise and fall of roman industry by the concentration of lead pollution in glaciers.
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Mercury is how they traced the Lewis and Clark expedition. Apparently the cure they used for 99% of the problems they had were a mixture of jalap and mercury (called thunderclappers  ) and there's a definite trail of mercury deposits showing where they stopped off at.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Mercury is how they traced the Lewis and Clark expedition. Apparently the cure they used for 99% of the problems they had were a mixture of jalap and mercury (called thunderclappers I had no idea, and reading about this is fascinating. Big fan of this quote: 'Calomel was the wonder drug of the age. In large doses, it functioned as a savage purgative, causing lengthy and productive sessions in the outhouse, guaranteeing the restoration of one’s bile balance. And in small doses, it was effective against the most dreaded “social disease” of the age, syphilis. But take too much of it and your teeth would fall out, and you might die of mercury poisoning. Calomel’s modern scientific name is mercury chloride.' From http://www.offbeatoregon.com/H1006d_BiliousPills.html
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I had no idea that people still fall for the drop bear joke, I've never been to Australia but I learned about it from comic books 20 years ago.
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Shut up Meg posted:I'm interested because in the UK, it was long 'known' that overhead power lines resulted in an increase in childhood leukemia. Weembles posted:I read an article once that tracked the rise and fall of roman industry by the concentration of lead pollution in glaciers. Here's a similar paper: https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2017/08/22/1706334114.full.pdf
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BMan posted:Didn't stop them from using lead pipes, lead cups, lead cooking pots, and white lead face paint It's called leading a good life for a reason!
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