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aas Bandit posted:
seems like that dude nailed the STOP part
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Presented without commentquote:"We did our best out there to do a rescue, recovery, to get the death pronounced before Thanksgiving Day,” he said, noting that rescuers rushed an EKG down into the cave to confirm Jones’ death before midnight turned the clock to Thanksgiving. “We hustled so it wouldn’t be a Thanksgiving memory for the family every year,” said Leavitt, a member of the Nutty Putty Cave Management team.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 20:59 |
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Wow thank goodness human brains reset every day at midnight.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:10 |
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Mine certainly does
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Green Intern posted:Wow thank goodness human brains reset every day at midnight. Can you prove otherwise?
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:15 |
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aas Bandit posted:I did a fair amount of caving when I was younger, and have even been through some tight spots where I couldn't take a full breath. I’ve worked some pretty dangerous jobs and it was always a great fear of mine to be killed at work and remembered as an “idiot”. I don’t think making a deadly mistake makes one automatically stupid because there are other factors like peer/employer pressure, adrenaline, and missing/bad information that can overwhelm common sense.
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Varkk posted:Being wrapped in paper probably helps with the health and safety aspect of handling lead. Elviscat posted:E:^^^ Yeah, you don't have raw lead kicking around where people can handle it, even most bullets are copper plated, we encased our lead bricks in duct tape over plastic. gently caress, my childhood is the OSHA story. My dad and uncle for a while reloaded shot shells in quantity. I remember being a kid and they somehow recovered fired lead birdshot from specific places that were popular shooting spots in the desert, hundreds and hundreds of pounds of it. They would process the spend lead shot by tumbling it in a small cement mixer for several hours which (I was told) rounded out the lead shot that was pancaked and getting dirt and stuff off it, kind of like a big like a rock tumbler. I remember mentioning that the cloud coming out the front was "sparkly" and my dad casually mentioned I should try not to breathe too much of that in. For hours at a time, in my backyard. Pretty much one of these:
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Sagebrush posted:Presented without comment "And this year, like all years, we give thanks that our beloved son John died in terror and agony, strangled by the unyielding and terrible Earth itself, yesterday, and not today. Amen."
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BitBasher posted:. You have boomer brains, I'm terribly sorry.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:37 |
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The whole Nutty Putty thing is so surreal so I'm ok with giving them credit for the small things. Imagine if you're that dude's wife and you got a call like "your husband is stuck in Nutty Putty. We can maybe get him out?" And you have to drive out to Nutty Putty to sing Mormon hymns with your brother in law and everyone slowly realizes he's not coming out before a 5 ft nothing volunteer cave rescuer comes out saying "caves haunted. Don't ask." Finishing up before Thanksgiving is a victory in that light. (Paraphrasing only slightly made up)
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:38 |
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Fix the cigarette lighter.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 21:41 |
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Ive worked some pretty dangerous jobs and it was always a great fear of mine to be killed at work and remembered as an idiot. I dont think making a deadly mistake makes one automatically stupid because there are other factors like peer/employer pressure, adrenaline, and missing/bad information that can overwhelm common sense. We were doing a safety stand down meeting because one guy lost a hand at a sister site and another guy lost a finger at a different site from LOTO violations and one of the new hires is a big macho guy who can talk for like a minute straight without taking a breath about how his tattoo is of '[Hebrew symbol] which means the bull which is the man of the house and the head of the family' etc, he pipes up 'wow those guys are idiots', and the regional manager is in the room and just death glares him and asks 'do you think they thought they were idiots before they got amputated?' It was a pretty lovely job but at least all our management except for our safety guy took safety seriously.
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aas Bandit posted:The question you ask yourself is, "Am I completely 100% in control here? Can I back up if I want, easily, at any moment, if I decide this is getting dangerous?" Kids used to routinely get stuck in the part of that cave in the video too, just that it was 'easy' to tow the fat kids back out. zedprime posted:The whole Nutty Putty thing is so surreal so I'm ok with giving them credit for the small things. Imagine if you're that dude's wife and you got a call like "your husband is stuck in Nutty Putty. We can maybe get him out?" And you have to drive out to Nutty Putty to sing Mormon hymns with your brother in law and everyone slowly realizes he's not coming out before a 5 ft nothing volunteer cave rescuer comes out saying "caves haunted. Don't ask." Finishing up before Thanksgiving is a victory in that light. The thing that stays with me about this one is where it kind of hosed up some of the rescue crew. Saying something to the effect of 'This is the only rescue attempt where they were given a more or less healthy person who was just barely out of reach the whole time and they could do little more than wait.'
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nomad2020 posted:Kids used to routinely get stuck in the part of that cave in the video too, just that it was 'easy' to tow the fat kids back out.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 22:06 |
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Charged with the crime of being too goddamn radical.
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Scratch Monkey posted:weight is a measurement of the effect of gravity on mass minus buoyancy and the centrifugal effect
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 22:31 |
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Seattle had some exciting truckfuckling yesterday e: the driver "self extracted" and is ok according to Seattle Fire Dept a kitten fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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a kitten posted:Seattle had some exciting truckfuckling yesterday The driver was fired for not using enough R and too much L.
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a kitten posted:Seattle had some exciting truckfuckling yesterday Is this the Spokane St viaduct?
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 23:47 |
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self extracted how???
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 23:56 |
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I wonder if that's a typo since the earlier tweet says they're working to extract him https://twitter.com/SeattleFire/status/1382590882709311494?s=19
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Extracted the seat cushion from himself
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Platystemon posted:Extracted the seat cushion from himself He made a rope from empty Subway bags and repelled down
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 00:07 |
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'uncontrolled self-extraction'
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a kitten posted:Seattle had some exciting truckfuckling yesterday Well, that certainly is an "anywhere".
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 00:16 |
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https://files.catbox.moe/vtbaic.mp4
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 00:42 |
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Thank god the crash didn't make him auto-extract.
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zedprime posted:I think part of that is their confidence means they tried every option to get him out without further injury until his circulation was completely failing. By the time they spitballed "what if we just mulch his arms" any shock would have immediately killed him. Not that anyone is nearly psychologically and physically equiped to even try that. I hadn't full considered that aspect, just extra hosed.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 02:58 |
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I saw this pop up in the vernacular press last night and knew it would be some scary fodder for this thread"The Mainichi posted:4 die in fire suppression system accident in Tokyo parking garage What a terrifying way to go. Japanese OSHA is JISHA (Japan Industrial Safety and Health Association), btw.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 03:18 |
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Is there a form of caving where you bring a jackhammer and don't accept the cave's definition of where you can and can't go?
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The Lone Badger posted:Is there a form of caving where you bring a jackhammer and don't accept the cave's definition of where you can and can't go? Mining
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nomad2020 posted:Kids used to routinely get stuck in the part of that cave in the video too, just that it was 'easy' to tow the fat kids back out. I was googling stuff about the cave and came across this Mormon family website that documents all of their outdoor adventures. https://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/caving/?id=68 They have a whole happy page about the cave complete with pictures of the whole family crammed into it. Apparently it was "the most popular Boy Scout cave in Utah." They went twice just months before it closed. Five stars.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 05:29 |
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Ror posted:I was googling stuff about the cave and came across this Mormon family website that documents all of their outdoor adventures. Mormonism: Not Even Once
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Still Fluxing posted:Mormonism: Not Even Once Lapsed LDS: Definitely go back for more
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 05:52 |
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oh boy the banner image on that site. those are the mormonest mormons to ever mormon
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The Lone Badger posted:Is there a form of caving where you bring a jackhammer and don't accept the cave's definition of where you can and can't go? BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Mining Yeah and the jackhammer is the last step, after you've blasted it out with ANFO
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 06:08 |
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Going back to paper-wrapped lead brick, I hope handling lead in solid form isn't really that bad because in the '70s and '80s I fuckin' did it all the time when fishing with my dad (lead fishing weights). Some of those weights were designed to be crimped onto the line, and if you didn't have pliers handy the easiest way to do that was to bite down on it. Edit: for bonus points we used to fish in this bay sometimes, but I don't think we ever ate any of those fish (even then we knew that bay was hosed, you could see orange slime/scum all over the place): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MvyUTeE5XM Number_6 fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Handling lead is totally safe as long as you aren't grinding or melting it, you wash your hands afterwards and you don't lick your fingers. In solid elemental form it doesn't go through your skin. Biting down on lead sinkers is somewhat...less safe.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 07:04 |
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Wrapping the lead shielding bricks is meaningful if you're going to be handling them for hours at a time all day at work, or whichever. Metallic lead doesn't do much but you inevitably get some oxides and salts just from reaction with air, moisture, and stuff on your skin, and it's worth avoiding.
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Russian BT-5 or BT-7 tank. Those things were kinda notorious for actually having way too much zoom for a tank and being hard to drive. Seriously, imagine a trying to handle a 14 tonne vehicle with enough zoomies under the hood to get over 80 KPH on a decent road (and 50 KPH offroad). Fun as gently caress in War Thunder, especially in Arcade Mode where it gets more zoomies.
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