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Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Sunswipe posted:

It's the same need to be a martyr that leads Christians living in a predominately Christian country to claim there's a "war on Christmas." Some people can't be happy unless they're suffering.

Is this a thing with Christians? When my oldest was in Boy Scouts, it was mainly run by evangelicals, and every outing seemed like some kind of competition to out-suffer one another.

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Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Sunswipe posted:

The history of Christianity is all about martyrdom, the teachings are all about suffering now for a better afterlife, saints being killed for their beliefs, etc. Modern Christians don't know how to cope with being the majority in the first world.

In my case, it wan't Christians being fed to lions so much as Christian moms not being able to play Candy Crush on their phones because their kids were acting up.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Coolness Averted posted:

It's been in the dna of the church since it was an 'outlawed' cult.
They were never really that persecuted, and the narrative of the Christian martyr was a fabrication to justify the oppression of other faiths once they came to power https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2017/11/darkening-age-how-christians-won-brutal-culture-war-against-rome
Like roman governors frequently had trouble with every christian wanting to be some murdered hero of their faith and there's a ton of correspondance complaining about the weirdos.

lol

"Look, if you all keep asking to be martyred we'll have no choice but to actually do that."

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

taiyoko posted:

They (/someone) will show up if they think you might be an imminent danger to your kids, though. Source: happened to my sister when she was trying to inquire at my nephew's daycare about help for post-partum depression, they misunderstood her to the point they thought she was taking him home early for a murder/suicide and sent the cops over for a wellness check.

God, and they wonder why people are so reluctant to reach out for help.

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