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  If you don't know what EVE Online is, you're probably too pure for these forums. Flee now. Save your sanity and soul. However, if you get aroused at the thought of non-consensual space ship PVP on your cell phone while you're at work, taking a poo poo, or ignoring your family, then this is good news for you. CCP has licensed the EVE IP to NetEase Games to make a mobile port based on the EVE Online universe. This will be a pretty close copy of PC EVE but some changes made to be more mobile friendly. Mostly, a complete rework of the UI. Echoes will have the same map as EVE Online but the two games are separate. Characters and assets don't carry over from one game to the other. This will be a fresh start. Hell, I don't even think the market will be seeded. People who got into the Apha test said it really captured the spirit and felt just like playing EVE Online on the PC.  There will be one server for the whole world so expect a lot of chinese. If you played Second Galaxy you will know this can make things very interesting.  (in game screenshot from alpha) The UI has been streamlined a metric fuckton to make it playable on mobile devices. More tweaks are to be expected so it's only going to get better.  (in game screenshot from alpha) Mining veldspar in Jita is totally doable but Jita is so busy the system regularly crashes or lags so hard you'll be trapped there for hours. Don't go to Jita. DON'T GO TO JITA UNTIL THEY REALIZE JITA WILL NEED BEEFY SERVERS  (in game screenshot from alpha) Manufacturing and PI has been simplified too. It's incredibly important too. PI is the best free money you'll make in this game so farm the poo poo out of it on all 3 character slots. (you get 3 character slots here just like you did in EO)  Pew pew! Videos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cai8fwFa0I EVE Echoes Open Beta Trailer - Gameplay Footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ectxZeKwjZs EVE Vegas 2019 - EVE Echoes Keynote FAQ! Q: How big will corporations be in Echoes? A: Corporations and alliances won't be in this beta. They will be in launch. For now, we'll have to make due with friend lists / fleets. Join the discord (link below) and make friends. Make alts. Make friends with alts. Q: Will my 5 year old tablet run this game? A: There is a chart of officially supported CPUs and minimum specs linked below. As they do more optimizations, it's getting better and better. It's already dropped from 4GB of RAM to 2GB and the list of supported CPUs has exploded. Look up the specs on your phone (google that poo poo, you heathen) and see what CPU it has. Look on the below list. If it's there, you're golden. If not, eh... Cross your fingers or throw your wallet at the problem.  Q: How many accounts can I have? A: You can register with your google or icloud accounts, facebook, or email addresses. Can you guess which is going to be more secure? Q: Can I run this on my computer? A: There has been no word yet on a stand-alone version for PC/Mac but there's no shortage of emulators out there and the devs have basically said that they don't care if you use them, but don't expect them to provide support if it isn't working out. edit: Lots of goons have been using Bluestacks and emulating as a Pixel 2XL with success. Q: How does this differ from Second Galaxy? A: SG and NetEase are both chinese developers and apparently have been bitter rivals for some time. SG did beat them to market with a playable mobile space ship MMO but so far not a day has gone by where they've need to do some kind of emergency maintenance to fix a bug which has turned up. Usually in a very high profile sovereignty war. Q: Is Echoes going to be P2W? A: They have not announced their monetization scheme so far. The closest thing to an answer has been a dodge in the Keynote video above. They're still looking into it. This means they're trying to figure out where the PC version makes its money and looking at how SG has been monetizing theirs. There has been a lot of hate about the way SG has done their payment scheme so it could honestly go either way. CCP/NetEase have said they really don't want a P2W game but you know how it goes. Q: Can I fly a titan? A: Supercaps aren't in the game yet. The've said they're going up to tech 10 this round. Besides, the test probably won't last long enough for people to train up to and build one anyway. Right now, battleships are as big as it goes. Q: You didn't answer my question earlier about the differences between Second Galaxy and Eve Echoes! A: (Sigh) You're right. There's too many unknown game mechanics just yet. I'll just add random observations below: I can confirm that Echoes will not have Recruits or Wingmen like SG does. Echoes won't have directional scanning. Neither does SG but I wanted to add it here. Echoes uses the same skill training plan that EVE does. You have a 24 hour queue you can dump as much into as you want and any skills that take longer just keep going. I currently have a 5 day skill sticking out the back of my training window so I'm good for almost a week. I just toss smaller skills in front of it as I decide to. You can rearrange them on the fly and progress made just pauses. You only need ISK and time. SG uses some terrible combination of time and resources where you can spend days not training anything at all if you hate mining and are in a lovely high sec corp. Links! https://discord.gg/eveechoes - Official EVE Echoes discord server. https://discord.gg/THpQdZq - Official Goon server for Echoes. https://www.facebook.com/EVEEchoes - You can yell at each other on Facebook, like the page, and see exactly how fat the person you killed is. (hint: very fat) https://www.eveechoes.com/ - Link to register for open beta. Available on Android and iOS. Edit:  Ship spinning confirmed to be in at launch! Edit2: https://testflight.apple.com/join/cCS1Cbjg - If you use iOS, you have to get the beta through TestFlight. Update: Things to be aware of: This test is far more popular than they could have hoped. There is often lag in many systems from all the pilots dicking around. Every day we get an email with daily rewards. Free ISK and free SP to use on whatever you like. Even your alts get it. Make alts. Start them on PI. The map is a 1/1 copy of EVE. Evemaps and even eveplanets are accurate. PI has been simplified a ton so no need to worry about reactions or finding the perfect layout for your harvesters. We're working on a spreadsheet of the good planets since they seem static. We're living out of [H-PA29 IV - Moon 2 - Guristas Assembly Plant]. It is a Caldari ITC Station with production capabilities. If you're looking for a skill path, train for missile skills (Light Missile-> Rapid Light Missile) for our Corax/Caracal/Blackbird doctrines. Also, train PI to at least 4 on all your toons. Takes no time at all with the free SP you get. Wanna go nuts? You can probably use that free SP on your alts to get them up to PI 5 / Advanced PI 4. The output is way higher but so is the capacity so you can ignore it longer. The PI you should be focusing on are from top to bottom are: Lustering Alloy|Gleaming Alloy|Motley Compound|Base Metal|Noble Metal Opulent Compund|Reactive Metal Precious Alloy|Glossy Compound Any other Alloys, Metals, or Compounds. Planetary Interaction is called Planetary Production in Echoes but nobody calls it anything but PI. It's a great source of income since they're in high demand and requires zero effort. Also, you can steal it if people launch it and you collect it first so that's fun.  We're well on our way to becoming arms dealers. About half of us are big into industry making all the ships. PI is critical here so even if you don't wanna use it, you know someone who does. (shamelessly stolen) Ok, I'm in. Now what? Mining - Everyone knows mining is important. If you're mining in empire space, you don't even have to worry about belt rats. Suicide gankers don't seem to be a thing yet either for whatever reason. It's great to do while semi-afk. Even completely AFK. Hell, I was probably mining while driving to work. Combat anomalies - Rats don't spawn in belts anymore. They spawn in anomalies that show up in your overview. Lots of them. Show up and shoot rats in waves until they stop respawning. Loot wrecks. Proffit. Turn off auto-orbit and it feels a lot like you're mining rats instead of rocks. Encounter - The Encounters board has lots of different missions that you can accept from anywhere. All types. Mining, combat, lots of hauling, some industry, etc. Chance of spawning a storyline mission which is more difficult, more rewarding, etc. PVP - Believe it or not, you can PVP in EVE! Scam - Player trading isn't in yet but you can pull some shady poo poo with delivery contracts and the market if you're clever. Industry - You can become the Monopoly Man. The market still has some kinks but there are already some success stories and it's remarkably easy to get into. Way less fiddly than it is on Live. Corporation Management - Just kidding, corporations aren't in yet. That makes it harder to stay organized but we're making do with friends lists, Discord, and fleets. 43 jumps??? gently caress you! If you're joining us in lowsec, you need to tell your autopilot you prefer shorter routes. Click on your route, hit the gear, change your preference. It's not obvious how to find that. You're welcome. Hundreds of thousands of people have logged in and played it so far. It feels like that number grows every day. 1001 Arabian dicks posted:the best way i can describe this game is that it's "so close to being good." With such glowing reviews, who can blame them? More edit: Since corps still aren't in game yet, and won't be until the next beta phase (probably early next year) I'm seeing a lot of groups add their corp tags in front of their name. We cannot rename ourselves so our mains are stuck with the names we chose initially but I'm naming all my new alts GOON.charactername. Feel free to do the same. In the mean time, we have a spreadsheet with all our character names you can add manually. Inimicul fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 22, 2019 |
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Skill training update from the devs:quote:Upgrading Tech Level will be no more related to the specific skills, you can train any skills you like and all of them can help you upgrade your Tech Level. A brand new feature, free training, is also added into the game. When your training queue is empty, skill points would accumulate as free skill points (Slower than regular training).
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Nov 28, 2019 20:12
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Having to deal with Chinese groups as equals and sometimes even blues did a great deal to get the atlas goon group to stop being so drat racist, I wonder if that could work for goonfleet
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Nov 28, 2019 22:54
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Ad by Khad posted:Having to deal with Chinese groups as equals and sometimes even blues did a great deal to get the atlas goon group to stop being so drat racist, I wonder if that could work for goonfleet most of the chuds in gsf are super, super old players that have been around since like Dominion and never got put in a position of responsibility, so most likely they're not coming in here thank god.
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I'll cobble together the Discord for Beta at least. I'm currently at work so it'll probably be about nine hours before I can really sink my teeth into making it look good. https://discord.gg/h8Da9N7 Edit: Replaced with updated link. Erev fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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Nov 29, 2019 13:52
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Erev, you're my hero. I'm still keeping an eye on the official EE discord while I'm at work. Sifting out the useful information from all the "How is this going to be different than SG?" and "When beta?" chatter. I'll be posting relevant info in the op as I find it and probably posting on the discord as well.
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Nov 29, 2019 14:52
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Another Eve-Online side project for CCP to abandon and then shut down.  Thus far everything they've done in this area has been a massive failure.
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Inimicul posted:Erev, you're my hero. Excellent. I will need a crash course in the Goon auth bot - I assume we want to run it or something similar?
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Nov 29, 2019 18:20
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if you're gonna use GDN i'd advise against letting it see any important channels since TT uses that bot to spy on people and isn't subtle about it
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Nov 29, 2019 18:43
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I'm not sure how strict we'll need to be about goon authenticity. Attention spans for mobile games are short. In SG we had an open door policy and even with that it was really hard to keep numbers. I'm not sure if I can blame that on people having better things to do on their phone like watching porn, or because the game caused them to burn out and quit. The elitist jerk in me wants to stay pure, but I know most of the people I liked in SG aren't actual goons. There won't be corps in the beta anyway and there's going to be a wipe before release. I don't see a reason not to allow access via direct invite until official launch and we need to actually consider security.
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Yeah it seems like there would be less pressure about it on mobile. Goon bot isn't terribly good at protecting against spies anyway, the only spy the atlas group ever had got in through the goon bot just fine. Having an SA account doesn't automatically force your allegiance.
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Nov 29, 2019 19:06
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Oh, I wasn't expecting it to be secure. I just wanted to be able to pre-emptively have a handle on the million spam bots spouting Mandarin when we piss off some pubby. I'm entirely game to wait and see how it goes however. Is anyone here planning on being ringleader or wants to run fleets? I'll want to tag you special so you can post places.
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Nov 29, 2019 22:17
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I would be a terrible leader. You remember Rho? I remember Rho. I was definitely a Rhotard. If you want a corp leader that's online 80% of the time, pays attention only 20% of the time, and likely ends up on several people's killmails, I'm the guy for the job. Please don't give me the job.
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Nov 29, 2019 23:14
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quote:@everyone The list of devices is not complete. It's based on cpu type. My LG isn't on the list but does have one of the approved CPUs. They added the phonelist because they assumed people were smart enough to google their own phone specs. The fools! Region lock means no Chinese this round. Odd, since it's a Chinese dev team but alpha was limited to the Netherlands and... NewZealand. Wtf? If you are region locked out, vpn has been confirmed to work for alpha.
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Nov 30, 2019 02:03
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So wait, it's EvE with an even more irritating UI?
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Nov 30, 2019 02:31
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Tindahbawx posted:So wait, it's EvE with an even more irritating UI? Open beta so may as well see. It sounds like they've been trying to simplify it - I'd be more worried about losing vital information.
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Nov 30, 2019 05:17
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The only reason to play this is that it's the closes we'll ever get to a server restart.
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Nov 30, 2019 06:51
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No longer having the batphone excuse of "I'm at work, out with the family, at the bar, or taking a poo poo" is appealing to me too. It was nice in SG to be able to join a fleet at home, drive to work, and still be on the op while working.
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I said come in! posted:The only reason to play this is that it's the closes we'll ever get to a server restart. Facts! And you know eve alliances that failed will try to get a restart and second try . And let's face it... pvp will be abundant! No way will eve alliances that make an appearance in echoes will chance the goons getting a foothold and dominating another eve universe. Even if this doesnt last 15 years let's burn this candle on both ends!
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Nov 30, 2019 18:10
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I vote we goon rush Syndicate. Let history repeat itself a bit. I haven't played EO in a decade. What were the other good options? Delve? Dekelin?
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Nov 30, 2019 23:32
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Syndicate was a decent place to live when I was in groon and with no massive stockpiles of stuff to make citadels with, npc stations in 0.0 seem like they could be useful
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Nov 30, 2019 23:41
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brb setting up 20 bluestacks virtual machines what's the setup, is it quite literally eve: 2 but mobile? pay to play? what's the differences edit: i read the OP but there are still so many questions, i read the discord and it's mostly idiots talking about what they THINK it's gonna be, where the HELL IS THE INFORMATION 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Dec 1, 2019 01:14
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We are gonna put the beta through the ringer try to see what final version should be and what the game will offer. Will post what we find out.
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KorAnon posted:We are gonna put the beta through the ringer try to see what final version should be and what the game will offer. Will post what we find out.
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Dec 1, 2019 02:21
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The only real information is going to come from the beta testers, unless CCP or NetEase decide to put something out other than limited features lists. They probably don't know themselves yet.
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Mikezxcv81 posted:The only real information is going to come from the beta testers, unless CCP or NetEase decide to put something out other than limited features lists. They probably don't know themselves yet. are you and koranon friends?
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Dec 1, 2019 03:38
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man thread just started and its already paying dividends towards Lowtax's cyberspine and child reclamation fund
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Actually sounds like it could be appealing as long as I can play on a pc somehow.
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Edit: nevermind I'm an idiot.
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Dec 1, 2019 07:07
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Forgot all about this game until I got the notification yesterday that I pre-registered months ago, and can start downloading. Hoping this works out well enough. Being a mobile platform I'm assuming large-fleet nullsec gameplay is probably going to suck rear end, but I could see this being decent for solo or small gang PvP. Are things like modules and ship fits going to be 1-to-1 identical to actual EVE Online?
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Mostly, yes. The alpha didn't have drones but they have been added to beta. They have stated that they are a little different than they are in PC. No explanation yet as to what this actually means. They listed two new modules that sound suspiciously like SG modules that give AOE fleet buffs. Personally, I think that's a good move since large fleet fights were very fun.
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Sucks I start a new job first thing Monday morning. Hopefully I can get a couple accounts/skill queues going tonight before bed.
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Read somewhere that characters are going to be wiped between open beta and actual launch. That's a mild bummer.
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what the hell is this poo poo a Cormorant "Command Destroyer" with a missile launcher, two shield boosters in the low slots and a large shield booster in the "miscellaneous"? did they rework all the ships and gently caress up the balance? did they remove all the fitting complexity of the game? that's mad disappointing 
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:what the hell is this poo poo Have to remember NetEase is making this game. Hopefully CCP sees this stuff and reels them in and explains that this isn't correct.
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Dec 1, 2019 17:21
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Looks like isk is already pre inflated too
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The ship values are hilariously off. During the vegas presentation the devs showed off the final fight the devs had against all the players and had a laugh at one cruiser worth 1T. As for the missile Cormorant, apparently during the alpha people noticed that you couldn't speed tank missiles like you should be able to. That led to everyone using missiles since they always did full damage, no matter what.
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what a clusterfuck it doesn't matter though, in a fresh start rlml caracals will be king for a while anyway.
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From the official discord 
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