Torment: Tides of Numenera. Is this deep yet?

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fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

Black Robe posted:

Anyone gating the female option behind a high Kickstarter threshold has clearly done something really bad with it

I vote Female for this exact reason (also Rugged Glaive)

# ¿ Dec 4, 2019 13:13

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 01:46

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Oh, and Patrick Rothfuss is credited as a story director, so you know this is not going to be good.

I don't, actually? what's his deal

# ¿ Dec 5, 2019 22:55

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

aaaw yea, GEK-brand dialogue summaries are back

anyway, Calistege's fun, so take her

# ¿ Dec 9, 2019 05:27

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Dude wrote The Name of the Wind in 2007 and The Wise Man's Fear in 2011, two wildly popular books in a fantasy trilogy he still has yet to finish. He has some... issues writing women.

To wit, in these two books, the main character is supposedly a super-genius hero who eventually retired into obscurity due to an incredibly staggering fuckup, though the books so far have only been about how awesome the main character is and have yet to mention how he hosed up. Said main character has:

Met a young woman who talks about how she hates the idea of women being damsels in distress, only to eventually be rescued by the main character from a science accident. She then falls for him.

Met a literal sex goddess, whose charms are described as being so powerful that no man has ever met her and not gone mad. He fucks her and she is astonished by his skills, and it's later revealed that he was a virgin before meeting her.

Traveled to a matriarchal nation with a proud warrior culture, where much attention is paid to the fact that this culture basically doesn't have any taboos about nudity and sex. You can probably guess what happens next.

Spent a book and a half doing all of this while pining for one particular woman who keeps popping up throughout, for reasons that don't really make sense.

Made a really awful spiel in The Wise Man's Fear about how women are like music and loving each one is like playing a different instrument. He then caps this shitshow by suggesting that some people might find this idea demeaning to women, but "those people don't understand women, or music, or me."

This is all compounded by the fact that Rothfuss is the type to write poo poo like the above while loudly proclaiming that he's a feminist ally. So, yeah. This should be interesting.

thanks for the comprehensive explanation/warning (and also for making the exit fate and last scenario LPs, wouldn't have experienced those games in full without them)

# ¿ Dec 9, 2019 06:03

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

we are not the changing god

# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 15:15

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

take Shield Guy because he's the most annoying and maybe if you absorb him he won't talk anymore

# ¿ Dec 16, 2019 12:08

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

let's bust the poo poo out of this hosed up torture execution

fluffyDeathbringer fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Dec 23, 2019

# ¿ Dec 23, 2019 15:07

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

I like stone guy, he's great

# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 02:53

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

to be fair, a lot of this poo poo is really zoomed-out, so more detailed descriptions are necessary at parts

anyway, you know how in every bad game, there's that one (semi-)good character that sticks out from the rest of the bullshit? honestly, callistege's that for me. her psychic bullshit thing is interesting, and I honestly like the whole "aloof and amused super-powerful party member just hanging around for the gently caress of it" trope when it pops up

# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 10:21

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

anilEhilated posted:

That doesn't really apply to her, though? She's after a machine the Changing God supposedly made or found and the Castoff is her best shot at getting closer to it.

I still get the sense that she could find other leads if she tried from her, though

# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 15:31

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

PurpleXVI posted:

The more angry you get at the game, the more fun the LP gets.

seconded, hate-riffs on bad stuff are good poo poo

that's not worth you forcing yourself to go through drudgery for, though, so don't feel like you have to transcribe this bollocks on top of rereading it for the goon-mind's enjoyment

# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 20:45

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

wait hold up, the battle between the changing god and the first castoff is only relevant in a sidequest?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2020 15:07

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

"we took a page out of tides of numenera's book, and in the ffvii remake you'll only personally engage with sephiroth in one sidequest where some rando's gathering funds for a mission to look for sephiroth, and then hear about sephiroth summoning meteor and never see it"
--square

# ¿ Jan 13, 2020 16:36

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

let's hurt some stalker

also, drat did they manage to make a cool concept as boring as humanly possible with this whole woman override poo poo

# ¿ Feb 2, 2020 13:15

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

the sticha smell for "how much is one life worth" is trolley track grease and ayn rand convention sweat

# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 15:47

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

but if everyone's eating each other how does anyone live long enough to grow up
how did this species manage to survive in the first place in numbers big enough to still be a civilization
loving hell it couldn't be clearer that they just thought of a cool concept and didn't actually deconstruct it at all

# ¿ Mar 11, 2020 14:09

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

king asked me to post this here too

# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 02:57

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

well at least now I know what belshazzar's feast is, so thanks for that

at least the memorialist thing is a cool concept

# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 08:24

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

if hell doesn't exist in numenera why does callistege know what it means

this may seem like a minor nitpick but it really shows off how the devs half-assed their hell analogy

I think they first had an actual afterlife, then thought "wait, gently caress, too derivative" and hastily changed it to be a spiritually insignificant scifi gate thing

# ¿ Mar 22, 2020 22:59

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

the closest thing to loving off from all this pretentious bullshit and just going out on a foodie trip across wacky space restaurants Life matters only if you experience it. If you let it wither and stagnate, it doesn't matter at all. so that

# ¿ Mar 29, 2020 15:19

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

you getting mad over this game is a delight I want more of, so trolleys

also glad to see we've graduated to new levels of spiritually insignificant with "gods can be created by mortal faith, but it matters so little no one comments on it and the literal child who did it says it with the gravity of saying she put on her coat"

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 11:13

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

Don't gently caress with the Cortex. These people did nothing wrong. Game sucks, doesn't mean we have to.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2020 23:27

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

oh, to clarify, don't steal it but analyze the hat. brushed past the hat being their only option, whoops

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 00:07

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

the worst options possible: Aligern and weirdo

# ¿ Apr 15, 2020 06:34

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

I just legitimately feel bad for anyone who kickstarted this and got scammed into believing they'd get what they wanted

# ¿ May 19, 2020 21:33

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

quote:

It's like a bad game of D&D where the players sit there as the DM describes how his Demon Vampire Ninja killed a dragon with a single blow and then impregnated five elf princesses at once and they all agreed he didn't owe any child support because he was just that good.

that's too specific to not be real

# ¿ May 25, 2020 01:33

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 01:46

fluffyDeathbringer: Nov 1, 2017; it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

kill the sorrow.

another thing about this is that ordinarily, hypocrisy is an appealing trait in a villain, if done right. but the sorrow moralizes about loving lovers' quarrels of all things hot off the heels of killing an entire people, and nothing is done with that. the disconnect isn't brought up. it doesn't even add to the villain's hateability or add texture. it only comes off as what it is: bad writing.

giving the sorrow a personality at all was a mistake

# ¿ May 25, 2020 03:00

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