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program in assembly, it’s the best
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i was so happy when i finally learned html4 and javascript in 1998, i did not know of the monstrosities that would be flung upon the world 20 years later remember quirksmode??
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Dec 6, 2019 22:57
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The Management posted:program in assembly, it’s the best
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Dec 6, 2019 23:15
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Share Bear posted:i was so happy when i finally learned html4 and javascript in 1998, i did not know of the monstrosities that would be flung upon the world 20 years later quirksmode is not the greatest
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Dec 6, 2019 23:59
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The Management posted:program in assembly, it’s the best there's no need when BASIC is close enough to the metal for anyone
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Dec 7, 2019 00:10
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The Management posted:program in assembly, it’s the best yeet
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Dec 7, 2019 00:29
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code:
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Dec 7, 2019 01:06
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RustyKnight posted:I started to learn to code about a year ago and i started with javascript, now i moved to c++ basics and i still cant do poo poo, i am terrible computer toucher and i wish i could have enthusiasm to actually have fun with writing programs, any suggestions what could i do that would be entertaining? Right now it all seems like a chore. why are you bothering to force yourself to do something you don’t enjoy? I assume it isn’t your job which is the only reasonable excuse to do poo poo you hate
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Dec 7, 2019 02:09
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Captain Foo posted:quirksmode is not the greatest
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Dec 7, 2019 04:34
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im sad that old hip-hop knowledge is now considered boomer knowledge
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Dec 7, 2019 04:36
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i had a lot of fun with logo bitd
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Dec 7, 2019 06:03
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not exactly basic but "programming" in unreal engine 4 with the blueprints is even easier than basic and im basically learning how to program in c++ by doing so give me objects or give me death
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Dec 7, 2019 08:08
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The Management posted:program in assembly, it’s the best this is true i started with basic first on a french 8 bits computer (which had a microsoft basic tho) and then on amiga but its only when i started programming in assembly that i really started to have fun bc i could do funky gradients with copperlists and all sorts of visual tricks and basically anything i wanted and it was fast and cool amos basic or even gfa basic didnt exist back in those days tho, it was amigabasic which was a slow and limited piece of crap which really didnt have a chance in terms of having fun compared to assembly amigabasic was also the second microsoft product i ever used and it already exhibited the lovely quality (it was slow and buggy as hell) that would become the hallmark of microsoft dev environments until they somehow managed to build something good with vs code
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Dec 7, 2019 10:11
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Vomik posted:why are you bothering to force yourself to do something you don’t enjoy? I assume it isn’t your job which is the only reasonable excuse to do poo poo you hate it is more the problem of me not enjoying anything, i like writing programs but i hardly have any motivation to do so. I should just do it and be excited just like the first time i was doing html basics. I think i understand where is my problem now, somebody just needed to spell it out for me, i need to sit down and do it not because i have to but because i want to, i’m gonna find some cool project to make, if anybody has some suggestions I would be most grateful.
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Dec 7, 2019 10:44
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i’m not dissimilar myself.. but finding the thing you want to work on that inspires you is in of itself a decent challenge here’s a thought lol : try playing TIS-100 or shenzhen io
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Dec 7, 2019 11:32
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echinopsis posted:i’m not dissimilar myself.. but finding the thing you want to work on that inspires you is in of itself a decent challenge shenshen io is great! Still haven’t tried TIS-100 but i have it too
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Dec 7, 2019 12:33
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quakec was a lot of fun as well
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Dec 8, 2019 00:22
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Get closer to the metal
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Dec 8, 2019 09:56
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rotor posted:quakec was a lot of fun as well it's cool that a one-off language was better than all these p-langs
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Dec 8, 2019 12:46
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i started programming w/ qbasic when i was 10 now im soon 30 and no longer want nothing to do with computer
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Dec 8, 2019 16:39
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the late 90s kid programming starter pack: qbasic, pirated copy of vb6, GORILLA.BAS
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Dec 8, 2019 16:41
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my first foray into programming was to edit nibbles.bas so that when i hit the q key i got extra lives.
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Dec 8, 2019 18:46
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pram posted:the late 90s kid programming starter pack: qbasic, pirated copy of vb6, GORILLA.BAS with vb6 you can easily make programs that will spam the poo poo out of aol chat rooms
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Dec 8, 2019 20:43
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i tried to program core war in qbasic once, managed to draw a title screen and then realized i had no idea how to continue
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Dec 9, 2019 01:55
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pram posted:the late 90s kid programming starter pack: qbasic, pirated copy of vb6, GORILLA.BAS he’ll yeah
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Dec 9, 2019 02:01
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Gazpacho posted:i tried to program core war in qbasic once, managed to draw a title screen and then realized i had no idea how to continue this is my style of programming
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Dec 9, 2019 09:44
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RustyKnight posted:it is more the problem of me not enjoying anything, i like writing programs but i hardly have any motivation to do so. I should just do it and be excited just like the first time i was doing html basics. I think i understand where is my problem now, somebody just needed to spell it out for me, i need to sit down and do it not because i have to but because i want to, i’m gonna find some cool project to make, if anybody has some suggestions I would be most grateful. there's a bunch of useful activities in automate the boring stuff that lots of new folks like going through because it's a bunch of things you'd actually want to automate
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Dec 9, 2019 10:12
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i got python crash course book but wish I got that instead also wasup ahmeni feels like u been away for ages
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Dec 9, 2019 10:43
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echinopsis posted:i got python crash course book but wish I got that instead that's also a good book! pretty sure all of automate is free to read online too quote:also wasup ahmeni feels like u been away for ages yeah I cut down on a lot of internet stuff a while back when my job started getting more hectic and just never really picked it back up again
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Dec 9, 2019 13:34
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Thanks for support, I'll give it a shot, I've been pretty depressed with starting uni and everybody being basically already a competent programmer when i was only able to make lovely react site and not knowing what to do anymore, I was just feeling like i'm going nowhere and i really need something simple to learn that would make me feel more content.
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Dec 9, 2019 14:25
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RustyKnight posted:Thanks for support, I'll give it a shot, I've been pretty depressed with starting uni and everybody being basically already a competent programmer when i was only able to make lovely react site and not knowing what to do anymore, I was just feeling like i'm going nowhere and i really need something simple to learn that would make me feel more content. mundane laborious coding/scripting is the worst. i always end up feeling at least somewhat excited about every project i get, but going back to programming that you can draw stuff to the screen immediately and do fun stuff is the best. javascript is my jam for that, because all you need is a web browser and a text editor. i also use it seriously to make a proof of concept, and then port it over
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Dec 9, 2019 18:12
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rotor posted:the worst was when they decided that Java was a great teaching language. lol did they actually think java was a great teaching language or was it just "well java is THE FUTURE so we should just get people started on it anyway and then everyone will be prepared for THE FUTURE"
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Dec 9, 2019 19:48
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol did they actually think java was a great teaching language or was it just "well java is THE FUTURE so we should just get people started on it anyway and then everyone will be prepared for THE FUTURE" idk what the motivation was. Honestly at the time the idea of a robust, complete, free, well-documented toolchain & stdlib was sort of revolutionary so
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Dec 9, 2019 19:51
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rotor posted:idk what the motivation was. Honestly at the time the idea of a robust, complete, free, well-documented toolchain & stdlib was sort of revolutionary so
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Dec 9, 2019 20:23
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Gazpacho posted:and memory managed, don't forget memory managed. the main credible alternative at the time was C or C++ and with those the class spends half its time chasing memory errors I think as a teaching language the main alternative at the time was Pascal which iirc was also memory managed?? idk it's been a long time.
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Dec 9, 2019 20:24
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pascal was not memory managed and i believe, in the language as standardized, you could not even use its dynamic memory support for variable length arrays
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first language I touched in school was basic. next year was c++ and it was taught so poorly I dropped programming for years. the first languages I learned were bash and Perl. I still prolly spend most time with p-langs esp when loving around or prototyping but not usually for bigger projects or ones targeting specific platforms. I’ll use whatever if it best fits the application 🤷🏻♀️
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is R a p-lang
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Dec 9, 2019 21:06
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getting back to the thread topic, visual basic probably would have been a reasonable option for schools to use at the time but microsoft was not really pushing it into education because it was already well on its way to business adoption
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OldAlias posted:is R a p-lang i feel like it's a dsl
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