Toalpaz posted:

his is a game of mafia, not really a game to try and uncover or speculate about the roles I've made for this game, while there will be plenty of unique ones, there are also a lot of normal roles.

Amnistar posted:

according to the OP, 20.


I've found the scum, not reading posts!

Toalpaz posted:

=You only get one message to start with... and only the first 100 users can join! Ahahaha!

Amnistar posted:

Uhh...that's a scum claim...

##vote mega

Toalpaz posted:

IcePhoenix posted:

I didn't get a PM on discord either

Amnistar posted:

To clarify my position, you claimed you would become a cultist night 1. So I'm voting for you.

Dragonatrix posted:

Just gonna point out that I haven't played on here in like... 3?-ish years, so I forgot what votefinder can do and all. Nothin' I can do about that except somehow get a better memory.

##unvote

Amnistar posted:

Because it's joke phase and no one would believe it, and then you get to be smug and say "I told you so."

Joke claiming scum is a dumb idea as town, so I will always be happy to vote for someone that claims they are scum.

That said, I'm not going to sit on you and do nothing, I'm just not removing my vote because it's not based on you knowing there were cults, it's because you claimed you would become a cultist tonight.

merk posted:

Am I so bad at making jokes that people cannot tell when I am joking?

Leith Maclaine posted:

And where in the OP did it include the part of you specifically becoming a cultist on N1 after watching youtube videos?

It wasn't just that there are cultists. It was you saying that you were going to become one, and yes, I did reread it and think about it before the vote.

I know actually thinking about posts before voting is a radical thing around here.

Amnistar posted:

Mega - Nothing about what has been posted makes me think Mega is town. Their actions to date feel much less invested in the game than in the soldiers game we played. I feel like they got early heat in both games, but in this game they're distancing through inaction while in the other they doubled down and pushed hard.

MegaZeroX posted:

I was at the end of winter break for the soldiers game. Now I'm managing a graduate CS class, three CS papers I'm working on simultaneously (a couple of them I want to submit soon), a math paper I still need to finish up, and a Japanese language course I'm taking. Like, this meta read on me feels really scummy. No poo poo that people are more free in early January than mid February. I learned my first game to not call out people for things that can be explained "is busy." You never used meta arguments for posting amount in the previous game. For reference, I'm a super active scum player that tends to just ignore my team and call out everyone I find susp, including my own team. My level of activity doesn't really correlate with my scumminess.

I didn't have a scum read on you, but you've been pinging me with these bad reads.

Nep-Nep is kind of lurking, but is far from alone in that regards.

George's case is literally: Wow, you voted meta like 4 other people that didn't realize the image in the OP was the rules and then apologized for it? Also I like Amni and you don't? Sounds like scum

AA is playing like AA right now. This feels like their town meta right now. Won't elaborate on this for now in case it changes their behavior, but for now I'm not very susp of AA.

And why do you think George looks good after posting garbage followed by a single (bad) case against AA? And just going "oh I agree with this" without contributing anything at all looks weird.

And I'd expect scum Sandwolf to double check post history before throwing around accusations.

Why no suspicion towards Leith? You may agree with the vote on me, but you'd at least expect explanation to come out less than a day after you voted.

I guess my Lumpen list right now is:

Towny:
Gulag - Hard to read, but scum Gulag chooses worse targets I think
Binus - This is Binus' town game
Merc - This feels like town Merc, with normal scum hunting focus
AA - This isn't a strong placement, but George's placement is bad and this feels more like town AA
Sandwolf - This feels like townie Sandwolf, getting into scuffle with other townies as he tends to do

Scummy:
Leith - Already made my case. They sat on me without explaining their reasoning until a day after and after I called them out twice on it and actually voted for them. As someone pointed out, they defended against Gulag's vote despite me not mentioning it, almost as if they are scum not reading the post. Beyond sitting on me, they've done no case work.
Amni - See my post above
Ice Phoenix - Lurking isn't their town meta. And they seemed to sure have lots of free time to complain about not receiving their role before, but somehow not enough to meaningfully contribute?
George - So far they've had bad posts followed by a bad case. Not super inspiring for confidence
Hunt - They made cases day 1 of their last game IIRC, while they are just kind of sitting doing nothing here
Hum - Lurking is their scum meta
RF - While being away for today is fine, the fact that they didn't use yesterday to case anybody is susp.
Ruggan - Feels like they are pretending to be helpful while really not

Steak:
Steak - They day when I can read Steak is the day I die

Lurkers:
Boogie - its their meta
Nepnep - IDK if it is their meta
ETR - IDK if it is their meta
Hal - its their meta

Amnistar posted:

Honestly It slipped my mind that people would be less busy during the soldiers game since I was back in my normal life when soldiers started. I understand being busy, it makes sense. this post, however, comes across incredibly defensive to me. Especially with how later on you basically rip apart my play as bad, and put me on your scum list, but you don't have a scum read on me. Don't like it at all.

Like seriously...you spent an entire post talking about how each of my reads is garbage, put me on a scum list, how do you not have a scum read on me?

MegaZeroX posted:

Okay Updating List

For the record, my opening post was a shitpost. I am not actually whatever I claimed. I wanted to actually participate in the joke phase for once instead of killing it. Seems like that failed.

Anyways, here is my current lumpen list

Illiterate
Amnistar
Sandwolf
Dragonatrix
Leith

Taking lessons
AA

Semi-literate
Mega
Hal

Literate
Gulag

Please help me complete this list everyone!

b-minus1 posted:

- poo poo guys people are voting me. What do I do.
- Just be cool. There isn’t a whole lot of activity in the thread. Don’t engage the people voting you too much. And definitely don’t get caught browsing the thread without posting or else people will use the forbidden technique on you.
- alright sounds good.

Mr. Humalong posted:

lol this post is awful

Ruggan posted:

Your contributions aren’t very good. Stop posting lumpen lists. They’re clearly just rankings of who you think agrees with you.

Oh sorry, what I meant to say was “I agree” just make sure to put me in your literate category, deal?

Sandwolf posted:

Really liking Ruggan so far.

Mega you do seem like you’re taking this a little less seriously than you usually do.

Ruggan posted:

Keep your casework to yourself.

Mr. Humalong posted:

Actually Lumpen lists are always bad. They force people to give some sort of read on every player in the game and in a game of this size, this early on, most people are not going to have reads of everyone in the game. It causes town players to end up looking scummy because they have to stretch to provide some sort of read on every single player and it lets scum look better because they can manufacture brief reads on people and steer the conversation using the lists.

Notably, Lumpen once ran a game where everyone was forced to post a lumpen list during each game day. I believe it ended in a perfect scum victory.

Ruggan posted:

How strong are these meta cases really? You even mention your own posting might be different this game because of change in coursework. People are going to naturally vary in engagement and the meta case feels like a very janky way of attributing meaning to something that has a much simpler explanation - real life.

I’m still pretty new at this but I dunno. Seems suspect to rely on it in any meaningful way.

Amnistar posted:

I feel like you're putting too much faith in the initial read and it is coloring your perception of the game.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I finally won TD

Also I have scum shook

Amnistar posted:

And your cases are..."these two people voted for me after I claimed I would get recruited by scum and didnt remove them after I said I was joking."

I have 4 people I would vote for, with reasons that are pretty solid in my mind for day 1, sorry if you disagree.