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HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





"Ahhh... Gin...!!"

(It's not budging... What should I...)

"...There, maybe?"

"Huh...?"



"…!"

"This way, Sara."



Investigate recess in the floor.

The cage is firmly embedded in the floor.

Investigate ladder.

A ladder leading down.




Music stops.



Talk to Gin.

"…....."

"Gin! Are you okay?!"

"…....."

Investigate machine.

This appears to be a computer screen.


"I'm lousy with machines..."

"Something's written here."



"Err... So we just have to hold down this button... But if masks appear, let go and shine holy light...?"

"Wonder what light it means."

"Ah! There's a flashlight below the machine!"




Press the green button.



(What...?!)

"Looks like it's starting."









  • This is fairly simple, just click and hold on the green button until mask/s show up, then hover and click on the masks to destroy them. As Sara holds down the button the bar on the screen will fill up; the game ends once the bar is full. If you take too long to destroy a mask, it will “attack”. Sara can take three “hits” from the masks then it's game over.

Music stops.



"Hm... The flashlight's stopped working too. Oh well."

"Gin, can you open it up and come down?"

….....

Gin...

"...I bet that was scary. It's okay now."



"…"

"...Big sis Sara."

Gin dove into my chest.

"Gin... It's okay... It's okay..."

"...sniff... sniffle...."

"...Now, let's go."






(I hope Joe found her on the first floor...)

Music stops.



"Even policemen get bad luck sometimes, huh?"

"Sure isn't great, is it? Maybe I'll hafta retire."

(Urk... I guess he'll just dodge the question if I beat around the bush...)

"Ah, come to think of it Keiji... Earlier you said there was someone you looked up to."



Yes.

"…"

"…Do you not want to talk about it?"

"Hahaha! You're really as sharp as a tack."



  • There's no reason right now to believe Keiji's past has anything to do with the game. It's probably not the wisest idea to potentially annoy Keiji for no reason beyond curiosity.


"If you don't want to say... I don't mind, but..."



"Well, then I won't ask."



"Hahaha! Yep, you sure are funny, Sara."

"Wahah... Got it. I'll do this. If we survive that Main Game thing, I'll tell you."

"Huh...?"



"..."

"So you're saying... we're really going to do the Main Game...?"

"…"

"Doubt it'd be easy to avoid. These people aren't gonna allow that."



"…"




"That's tacky of you."

"Isn't it?"



Music stops.

"...Maybe we'll all come to hate each other."

"But if you survive regardless, and you're still curious about me..."





"I'll definitely... look for a way to sidestep the Main Game."

Right.

"...Just be ready."

"…"

  • If you pick "I definitely won't lose", Sara announces that she'll defeat everyone and win. Keiji laughs and tells Sara that she sounds like a psycho.








  • Just showing the other two rooms off quickly while we're up here. We'll be coming back later.



No music.



"That's strange."




  • The lights are off everywhere on the first floor, except for the blue, red and the hidden rooms.

Investigate the person on the ground.



Sou was lying face-down in the darkness.



"…....."

"...Ahhh...."

"...It's okay, he's breathing. Hey, get hold of yourself."

"...Sara, check the surroundings."

"R... Right!"

"Gin, could you look outside the room?"

"…....."

Check Sou.

Sou's body is limp.

"There's signs of him being whacked in the head..."

Investigate the desk.

There's nothing on the desk.



While looking under the desk, I saw a green glow towards the back.

(It's...!!)

A familiar card...


Music stops.



I... grabbed the card.



HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 20, 2020

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yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



Sou doesn't really....look the most stable there... :ohdear:

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Oh man, that does not look good.

limeicebreakers
May 1, 2017





When I played the minigame I, uh, misread it and thought it told me to rapidly click the green button to charge the machine. It took me like thirty seconds to realize what I was doing wrong.




Oh and Sou :gonk:

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





“S... Sou...! You've come to!”

Did he... see that...?






“You got whacked in the back of the head. Doesn't seem to have caused bleeding, though.”

“That's awful... Who would do that...?”





“...I didn't figure anything out. Not the password... or what data was on it...”

“Oh well...”

“It must have been inconvenient for somebody. So somebody used the confusion to steal it.”

Music stops.

“Somebody... on the first floor.”



“Good point. Don't want our feelings nor our actions to be all over the place.”

“We'll round everyone up. ...We should take the time to sort things out.”



(… I don't know what's going on.)

“Hey, Miss Sara...”

“Were you... looking at something earlier?”



“…I don't know. What are you talking about?”

“…”

“...Huh, I see.”






Talk to Kai.

“Oh, Miss Sara and company.”

“K... Kai!”

“Yes, I am Kai.”

“...Is something the matter?”

“We were just talking about all meeting up.”



“Huh...”

“The lights are restored, so at last I can move. Shall we all go together?”



Music stops.



“Joe! Did you find Nao?!”

“S... She wasn't on the second floor?!”



“Ya mean she’s up and vanished?!

“…Oh no…"

Looking around the room, I found almost everyone but Nao had already assembled.

“Just what is going on…?”

“Err, well… Now everybody calm down…”

“…Erm. Who is the person tied up there…?”

Music stops.




“Ah…!”

“Hey, ya woke up.”



“This guy’s… a little riotous. That’s troublesome…”

“Heh… All chicken, are you…?”



“Um… Do you have a second?”









“W… What’s this all’a sudden?!”



“C…Calm down! Could you start at the beginning?”

“…And could you drop that weird tone of yours?”

Music stops.

“………”

“Hmph, look at me, getting so disconcerted.”

“Is this guy playin’ a joke on us…?”



“Listen, we don’t have time to spend on you.”

“But… I’ll allow a little time for inquiries. We’ll decide whether to untie you after that.”

“Say again…?!”



“Oooh, scary. You handle the questioning, Sara.”

“Whaaa?! I’m doing that, too?!”

“Mr. Policeman’s shakin’ over here.”

(Ugh…)

“Talk to me whenever you’re ready.”

Talk to Keiji.



Music stops.

“Okie-dokie. Then we’ll begin.”




  • This is basically a “conversation puzzle”, if we select an incorrect option, the “Man in Stripes” will refuse to answer whatever question Sara's putting to him. In addition to the three options, you can also punch the man by clicking on him.





“If you refuse to even talk… Then I have no obligation to untie you.”



“I get it… I’ll tell you a little…”

(Seems he’s willing to talk now…!)



“Please, tell me your name.”

“…It’s proper for you to give your name first.”

“I’m Sara Chidouin. Just Sara is fine.”

“…I am…”



“…’Swone old-fashioned name.”



“Tha’s Q-taro Burgerburg to you!!”

(Gonbee, huh…)



“Please tell me your occupation.”

“My occupation is… err… well. A salaryman.”

“…Dressed like that?”

“Urk…!!”

“That looks like a prison uniform.”

“Fool… Japanese uniforms don’t use this pattern! And the pajamas are vertically striped.”

“…You sure are knowledgeable on the subject.”

“…!! Why, you…! A trap?!”



(Wow, even getting told by Kai…)

“True, I was imprisoned for a somewhat long time after borrowing from people a bit too much…”

“…Larceny, then.”



“That said, I was doing my time diligently, as a model prisoner!”

“And yet suddenly, I was brought to this place…!”

(So even this person is a victim…? I know his name and occupation now… I’ll try asking something else.)



“Is there something you want to say to us?”

“Untie these ropes quickly, pigface…!”

“So mean…”



“…Sniff…”

“I went too far…!”

“Then would you talk to me?”

“I knew those were fake tears!! No I won’t!!”

(Seems I need a little something more.)



“Can't you be calm , Mr. Gonbee?”

“...I'm always calm.”

“I'm not your enemy. Can we stop arguing?”

“Hmph... True, all it does is make us hungrier.”



(I need to make another push...)



“You want your ropes untied, right? You know what I’m trying to say, don’t you?”

“Hmph… a threat? I thought you meant no hostility?”

“Flip your thinking. If our positions were swapped, Gonbee, do you think you’d untie me?”

“…”

“… Very well. I suppose I can tell you a little more.”

(Surprisingly, he seems to recognize he’s dubious. I’m glad he feels like talking…!)



“What do you know about the kidnappers?”

“Hmph… I have zero information.”

“Before I was brought here… I had rare plans for a visitation.”



(When you think about it… that’s astounding.)

(The organization behind this… can free a prisoner? …If Gonbee is telling the truth, at least.)



“Why were you hiding the whole time?”



(Some vocabulary on this guy…)



“I locked the red door and lay in wait for a long time! Just like a tiger… waiting for its prey…!!”

(So he got scared and holed up…)

“However… several times, I did hear nearby sounds that were too dreadful for this world.”

“What were they?”

Music stops.





“Huh…?!”

“Just put your hand to your chest and think…”

(Does Gonbee have some misconception about me…?)

(What I’m most curious about so far is… those sounds. If I can confirm what they are, I might know the reason for his attitude…!)



“Is there something you want to say to us?”

“Sara Chidouin… How many have you laid hands on…?”

“W-what do you mean?”

“I know your crimes… It’s no use playing dumb.”

(Don’t be pompous about it… Seems I need a little something more.)



“You’ve talked some, but if you don’t tell me the important parts, I can’t untie you. Too bad.”

“Gah… Surely I’ve answered at least a few of your questions!”

“Then I’ll cut just a little bit off your ropes.”

“What’s the point if they’re not untied?!?!”

“Grrrrrrh.”

(He’s starting to show signs of talking…)



“Can’t you be calm, Mr. Gonbee?”

“Whaaat?”

“I think you’ve made some mistake, Gonbee.”



“That’s right. It’s because you’re so perfect that it’s easy to assume you’re mistaken.”

“A blatant lie!! Don’t belittle me!!”

(Instigating him is no good… I think I’m just a step away, though.)



“This is going nowhere!! If you don’t answer me properly, I’ll do something terrible to you!!”

“Oogh…! Something terrible…?!”

“I’ll do… this!!”

Music stops.

“Do what…?!? Don’t tell me… You’ll sh… shoot!!”

“Hold on!! Haste makes waste, y’know?!”



“…Hmph. I’ll tell you. What you wish to know.”

(Alright! I think I can finally ask him!)



“Sounds… What exactly did you hear?”

Music stops.

“…The sounds of a gunfight.”

“Say what?!”

My ears caught it… 9 gunshots… As many as 9 people… died…!!”



(Oh…)

“I waited for the shots to cease, and opened the door to see the situation…”

“And there she stood! The killer wielding a gun…!! And she stubbornly chased me…!!”








(The more I learn, the more unfortunate he seems… )

(But… I can’t imagine he’s a villain.)



“We’re in the same situation. Will you help us?”

“…Did you hear what I said? Who would assist the likes of…”

Music stops.

I told him our story so far, and about the Russian Roulette game.

“Say again…?! All of this was a misunderstanding… caused by my too-superior insight?!

“…Err? Ah, yes, that’s right.”

“…Understood. Untie me.”

“You gonna help us?”

“Hahaha. You’re all fools.”

“Who would assist someone they don’t even know after hearing about the Main Game?”



“…”

“It can’t be only me thinking that… Correct?”

“…”



“Joe?! What are you doing?!”

Joe removed Gonbee’s ropes.

“…What is this meant to be?”

“…”



“…Hah?”

“I just can’t imagine it! That there’s a bad guy among us…”



“Well yeah, I dunno anything, but…”

“It’s what my heart says, so what else can I do!”



“…”

“Hmph… you say such cheesy things.”

“Oh well. As thanks for untying me, I’ll let you go without retaliation.”

“So… no will to help out.



“Man... Being called cheesy sure is making me embarrassed...”



“…”

“…”

“Haha...”

In contrast to Joe feeling awkward, the mood seemed to be lightening.



Music stops.

But I couldn't forget.

differentiating
Mar 30, 2019



The way Sou reacted when Sara found the Sacrifice card (which seems like a bad card to have from the name alone) makes me wonder if he didn't fake the attack on himself in order to trap her/someone else into picking up that card. I think he's too obvious to be the mastermind and therefore be behind distributing the cards, but perhaps he peeked at that one similar to how Sara did (i.e., after picking up an alternate card) and knew it sounded dangerous that way? Plus, if he did manage to find something on that laptop, then he could keep it to himself without suspicion if people believed it was stolen.

Gonbee Yamada doesn't fit with any of the names we've seen so far. Wonder what's up with that.

placid saviour
Apr 6, 2009


Anyone that comes up with "Cubetaro Hamburger" is okay in my book.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Does it feel like your love life has gotten a bit stale? Do you suspect that your partner is no longer attracted to you? Why not do what the ancient assyrians did and smear crushed Lobsta Fahts on their cock before applying a thin layer of Iron Dust on your Junk. They won’t be able to resist you.


Man, fantasy japan sure does things differently in their fantasy prisons. Unless Gonbee wasn't there long enough for the dye to fade from his hair? Hmm, so suspicious.... Unless prisoners are made to dye their hair in case they escape, so everyone will know they are / were a prisoner...!

This looks pretty interesting, I can't wait to see how this unfolds. I'm glad [so far] there isn't too much gross pervy stuff. I remember the Zero Escape series had its, uh, moments. Anyways, Gin is my favorite and if OP lets them die I will riot. Woof!

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

Wait, isn't 'Keiji' just another word for policeman? Is he the Japanese equivalent of Constable Constable?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.



Nope, you're probably thinking of 'Keibu' or 'Keikan' though his kanji probably has a police-based alternative reading as a lot of content makers in Japan love making names have double meanings.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014







“Y... Yeah, that's it! Let's split up and search!!”

“S-Sorry... I'm still not feeling great. Is it okay if I rest...?”



“...O-Okay...”

“Guess we'll hold down the fort here, Gin...?”

“I... I don't wanna, meow...!”

Gin pushed Sou away and approached me.

“Big sis Sara... I want you to take me, woof...”



“Got it. We'll look for Nao together.”

“...Thanks... meow.”

“Alright then. Let's go, Sara.”



Talk to Sou.

Sou and Kanna are resting in the corner.


“...You okay, Kanna...?”

“…...........”

(I don't want to put an burden on Kanna... I'll keep checking on her from a distance.)




“Hmph... If you want to search, do as you please. I won't assist, but I won't impede either...”




“Come to think, where's this hole even go to?”

“...I would like to believe she's safe.”




Investigate the doll in the chair.

Music stops.

(Waugh! What's this?!)



(It's a spitting image...! Like I'm looking into a mirror!)

“Oof... You got some wild hobbies, enemy.”

It's eerie how detailed it is. Yet I can't look away from that intricateness.

(It's amazing...)

(...But...)

(When... was this made?)



(Who could... accomplish such a thing...?)



“…”

“...What's up?”



“Keiji. I want to know your perspective... What do you think about Kai?”

“….......”



“…!”



“Do you think he's a bad person...?”

“...Dunno.”

“…”

“Everybody's got good parts and bad parts, right?”

“...Look you just do what you can, Sara. For now, we'll take this doll along.”








“Hey, now that's a shout! Keep searchin' like that!”




“Super sorry...”

  • Somehow, I feel like Reko and Joe might not be the best team.




“Seems like your kinda puzzle, Sara.”

“Might be... another scary trap, meow.”

“Better be careful.”



Investigate the left vase.




Investigate the left scale.

Scales tipped to the right.




The scales tipped to the left.

...There was the sound of movement in another room.


Investigate the left light bulb.

There's a light bulb that's not getting power installed in the ceiling.


(Can't reach it...)



“Sure... Please do.”

“Hey, I was half-joking... But alright.”



“Thank you very much.”

“Yeah, yeah.”

Investigate left mirror.

A sparkling mirror that just reflects me.


(My uniform is dirty...)

Investigate bottle.

A spray bottle containing an unknown liquid.




Investigate left painting.

A painting of a hand holding a gun.





Investigate right window.



Investigate right mirror.

The blurry mirror only vaguely reflects me.


(To reflect the same image in both mirrors, I'd need either a twin, or a life-size doll that looks just like me...)

Investigate middle painting.



Investigate right painting.

A painting of a hand holding a gun.





Place left gun painting in place of the right gun painting.

(Okay, I'll put up this painting.)

Hung up the left gun painting.

Hang the painting from the Red Room in place of the left gun painting.



Hang the right gun painting next to the painting from the Red Room

(Okay, I'll put up this painting.)



Screen goes dark as a male voice laughs and a gunshot rings out.






“Our enemies offer some pretty good amenities.”

“That's true. If there's hot water, we could get enough moisture to live for days.”

“...Feels like you could stay positive while the whole world's ending, Sara.”



Investigate the bottom of the bath.

There's something in the bottom of the bath.






Use bottle of hot water on the ice sculpture.

An ice sculpture.


(I'll pour the hot water on it.)



Use bath stopper on the left scale.

(I could put this bath stopper on the scale.)



(It balanced perfectly..!)

Use spray bottle on left mirror.

(I'll try using the spray.)



(They won't come off...)

Place flower in right vase.



Use light bulb on the hole in the right ceiling.

“There's a hole in the ceiling to insert something.


“I wonder...”

“Piggyback, please.”

“Well, it's only logical.”



“There, there. You did good.”

“...Mr. Policeman's not a dog.”

Place the Sara doll in front of the right mirror.

(I guess I'll put the doll at a distance so it reflects the whole body.)





(Now everything in the room is symmetrical...)

Something outside the room moved, making a loud sound.

“Way to go, Sara. Let's take a look outside.”






Investigate black door.

“There's a locked black door on the left side.”



Investigate door at the end of the hall.

There's a large red door in the centre. The number 09 is displayed above the door.


(What could this number mean...?)

Investigate white door.

“There's a locked white door on the right side.”



Investigate the key on the ground.

There's something on the floor...


“Hm? ...Huh, a key.”

“It's got... a tag, meow.”

“The key to the kitchen, eh...”

“Come to think of it... The kitchen is the only place on the first floor we haven't been.”

“Since the key's here, Nao shouldn't have been able to get in without breaking the window...”

“But... We should check just in case.”

“Yep. Best to be simple and methodical in your investigations, Sara.”




Investigate the kitchen door.

The door to the kitchen is shut fast.


(I'll use this key...!)



OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


That seemed pretty painless. Nao’s pose at the end doesn’t look promising though.

fluffyDeathbringer
Nov 1, 2017

it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it

"what an eye-searing color." said gonbee "I skinned a clown's rear end and put it on my head" yamada

fluffyDeathbringer fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jan 28, 2020

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014







Investigate the cupboards.

There's some storage space for cookware.


(...But I don't see anything resembling cookware.)



Please use as you wish.



(Hmm...?)



Investigate the fridge.

The blue refrigerator is empty.

Investigate air conditioner.

The room is well air-conditioned.

Talk to Nao.


Music stops.

(That's...!!!)

“Nao!!”

“…..........”

“Please stay away...”

“Hey there... Settle down, Nao.”

“You especially, please!!”

“...Okie-dokie.”





“...I'm scared, meow...”



“We're on your side. We won't do anything.”

“…”

“What in the world happened?”

“...As if you don't know what...!”




Music stops.

I locked the kitchen door from the inside.

“W... What are you doing?!”

“...Now no one else can enter. Will you talk to us?”

“….......”

“You really... didn't come here intending to take the professor?”

“Right. Please believe us.”



“Since it's you, Sara... I'll believe you.”

“Well... Can we come a little closer?”



“...Roger that.”






“We were worried for you, so we came looking. I was afraid... what the kidnappers might do if you resisted them.”

“Sara....”

“You're right... I'm sorry... that I've caused you trouble.”

“…”




“It must have been scary in the dark...”

“...M-My body... wouldn't stop shaking...”

(Nao's starting to calm down, but by bit...)

“…”

(At this point... I think we can talk properly.)

Music stops.

“Nao... Um... It's hard to say things like this, but...”

“...I understand....”





“I've caused all of you trouble...”

“...I shouldn't be... acting like this forever, should I...”

“What... should I do...?”



“...Nao, did you know that stairs going to the second floor appeared?”

“Huh...?! You don't mean... an exit...”

“No... The rooms there are just as full of tricks.”

“In the process of searching for you... Gin was locked in a cage.”

“Gin...?!”

“Yeah...”

“He was... very frightened by it.”

Music stops.

“...That's... my fault... isn't it...”

“I know how you feel, Nao... but you can't be exposing the people who are alive to danger, too.”

“...”The people who are alive”....! That wording...!”



“Professor Mishima is dead, Nao.”

“...Waaahhh...”

“NOOOOOOOOO!!!”



“...That's right... of course....”



“But the professor... didn't say a word...”



“….......”

“...I was in the middle of painting it...”

“...A portrait of the professor, that I meant to give him as a gift...”

“But I can't give it to him anymore, can I...”



“And... what about it?”

“...Huh?”

“He must have taught you many things. About art... about studying.... about many more important things...”

“Who knows Professor Mishima best out of anyone?”



“…I....”

“...I want to paint it...!”





“Right...!”

“...It's sad...”

“But this...”

“This box... I'll let go of it now.”

“The door's open.”

“...You should go see Reko.”



“Yes...!”

“Sorry about what I said... Mr. Policeman.”

Music stops.

“Well, we better give our all too.”

“Right.”



Investigate the box.

A box with a suspicious look.


“...Err, well, Sara. If you don't wanna peak inside, you can look away.”



“No... searching every nook and cranny is the only thing I can do.”

“...You're really somethin', kid.”

Music stops.

I touched the box, and the lid opened easily.

“...Huh?”



“What's... going on here?”

“...No buts about it, it's totally empty.”

(Was Nao... dearly protecting a box that had nothing in it?)



“This means the kidnappers took it, didn't they?"

“But the way Nao was acting... I'd have to think she never let go of it.”

“…”

“Gettin' hard to tell what's the truth.”



“…”

“...Nah, I just felt like saying that.”

“Miley, wasn't it? ...If Mishima could revive like her, just sticking his head on, I'm sure Nao'd be glad...”



“Hahaha! It's out of the question. Nope. No way she's a doll.”

“Well, no point in worrying about it. Let's keep trucking along and just pursue the truth.”



Investigate the box.

There's nothing in the box.


“...Irritated to have a mystery lingering? Haha.”





“Reko...”

“Heard you found Nao! You did good! Thanks!”

“I-I'm sorry... for worrying you...”

“Don't sweat it! Especially 'cause you're safe!”

“But Nao, we're your buds, right? Don't take off anymore, okay?”

“B... Buds...”



“T-That's not it! I'm.... very happy.”

“...Alright.”

Investigate the red door.

There's a large red door in the centre. The number 02 is displayed above the door.


(What could this number mean...?)

Investigate black door.




The black door opened.




Investigate the blackboard.

“A large blackboard with nothing written.”

Investigate the light.

“The light is pointed at the blackboard.”

Investigate the shredder.

An electric paper shredder.


(It's a machine for shredding documents and such... There are lots of shredded pieced inside.)

“How about it, Sara? You see anything of interest?”

“This...?”

“Huh, just garbage... Probably just a waste of time to check it all, huh?”

(Hmm... Recreating the documents from all this paper would be very time-consuming.)



“Gin...!”

“…”

“...Haha. Gin seems all fired up. I'll watch him 'til he's done.”




Investigate white door.




The white door opened.




Investigate bin.

There's nothing in the trash can.

Investigate handcuff.

There's a handcuff at the end of the chain.


Music stops.

(I wonder what this is...?)

(Plus... the air in this room feels heavy.)

“Well, this place is no good.”

“How do you mean that?”

“...Hmmm.”

“I can... sense a bad feeling, somehow. So please, tell me.”

“…”





“…!”

“I can faintly smell blood.”

“Ahh... And since there's dust, it was wiped a little while ago...”



Once I became cognisant of it, I understood.

The unremovable, raw stench of blood. The air that repulsed my instincts.

It's disgusting... I want to throw up.




(…!!!)

(Don't imagine it...!)



Keiji...

“I'll check every inch of this room. You get out, Sara.”

“But...”

“I'm sayin' trust in your friendly policeman.”

Music stops.

With a gentle push on the back, I proceeded to exit out of the room.









“Sou! And...”

“…”

“Aren't you tired? It's not good to work too hard. You should take some time to rest.”



“I can't rest... Not while everyone else is working hard.”

“I'd say rest is a valuable option in it's own right.”





Music stops.

“Miss Sara... I don't think you should go to the first floor on your own.”

“But...”

“Err... hey.”




  • Sou's becoming increasingly suspicious; let's not give away how close Sara and Joe really are. (Sara calls Joe “a bit stupid in ways” if you pick the best friend option and that's really quite rude.)

“Joe's just my classmate. There's not much to it.”

“Ahaha. I bet Joe would have a great comeback to make if he heard that.”

“...That's just how in-sync you two are. Can't joke like that without trust.”

“…”

“...So what about Joe?”

“Miss Sara.”

Sou came very close to me, and spoke in a whisper.



“Uh...?”

I had... nearly forgotten. No... I'd been trying to forget it.




(But, of course... We thought that choice held no meaning.)

“...You see...”

yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



Okay, but Sou....that doesn't mean anything. It's interesting, but no one knew what was going on in that vote. It doesn't matter who voted for who. So you're just kind of needlessly through shade, making you even more suspicious than you already are.

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Yeah, nobody knew anything, so all that means is that Joe voted for someone else. Definitely getting more creeped out by Sou.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011






So Sou just said that Joe... did the exact same thing as him and voted for someone else. I mean, at the end of the day, Sou, either way you voted for someone who wasn't yourself and are now trying to blame them for doing the same thing that you're guilty of. If Joe had voted for himself, then it could be both his and the professor that went explody instead of just the professor.

Besides, we still haven't seen Sou's collar, have we?

Jefepato
Mar 11, 2009

This?! This is a glorious dance! That has been passed down! In my family for generations!


Presumably, Mishima's three votes were himself, Nao, and Joe.

The way Joe got angry at the others and demanded to know who voted for Mishima back then is arguably a bit suspicious in light of this -- it certainly carried the implication that he wasn't one of them, after all.

It doesn't necessarily mean anything, though. Probably Joe was just dealing with the guilt by being a dick. Or, y'know, Sou is lying now.

Joe does seem to like casting shade on others without a lot of justification though. ("Do you think Keiji's really a cop?" "I'm pretty sure someone in that group is working with the kidnappers..." etc.)

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...



Nah, I don't buy this. The supposed doll claimed this was a practice vote that didn't mean anything and the evidence provided by the game masters to the contrary was completely unknown until after the vote; the default reading of anyone who cast a vote for someone besides themselves should be being naive, not malicious outside some solid evidence to the contrary. Which, come to think of it, being the first to imply someone else had malicious intent in a total mystery vote is pretty solid evidence for having malicious intent yourself even if it's just after the fact to save your hide later.

Jefepato
Mar 11, 2009

This?! This is a glorious dance! That has been passed down! In my family for generations!


Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Nah, I don't buy this. The supposed doll claimed this was a practice vote that didn't mean anything and the evidence provided by the game masters to the contrary was completely unknown until after the vote; the default reading of anyone who cast a vote for someone besides themselves should be being naive, not malicious outside some solid evidence to the contrary. Which, come to think of it, being the first to imply someone else had malicious intent in a total mystery vote is pretty solid evidence for having malicious intent yourself even if it's just after the fact to save your hide later.

Miley never once claimed that the vote didn't mean anything.

She said "as a test, try voting for whoever!" after explaining that voting would have dire consequences. "Let us test the functionality with some actual use."

She really never claimed or even actually implied the vote meant nothing. Everyone assumed. Hiding the rules on the back of the door was a horrid thing to do, but everyone could have just stopped and talked to each other for like ten seconds instead of immediately voting. Or just asked Miley for details (she might have told the truth, since the kidnappers are making a show of following rules).

She's still evil as hell for being involved in any of this manipulative murder poo poo, but she didn't lie or even strongly hint at an untruth. Nobody asked a single question before voting, after being handed the tablet.

Regallion
Nov 11, 2012



That's a bit unfair, as she also made a show of force by pretending to murder Joe, so that threw everyone the hell off-balance.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...



Yeah, nobody reasonable would be thinking straight after someone else who wasn't being compliant was seemingly almost immediately killed for it. She may not have said discussion was forbidden but the mood after threatening Joe and then brushing that off as a joke would almost certainly be "let's just do what she says so she doesn't kill someone for real" rather than "maybe we should think about this some" without something else blindingly obvious to point to, like the notice on the door.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





“...Do you know what that means?”

“…Sorry. That must've bewildered you...”



(….........)

(…Joe didn't vote for himself...?)






Talk to Joe.

Joe is sitting down wearily.






“Ahh... Sorry.”

“Don't do that and then take it back! At least laugh!”

“What are you looking at?”

Music stops.

“…”

“This was in my inside pocket.”

“That's...”

It was a photo of me, Joe and Ryoko. We were at a cafe, having a fun chat together





“Hey, you said it. Hahaha.”

“...Ryoko looks cute here, too.”

“...Sure does.”

“...”

“...Man, I miss her.”

“…”

Music stops.



Sou... He must just... be seeing shadows where there aren't any.

(…!)

Suddenly, I thought back.



If he'd gone straight home, wouldn't he be living life as normal right now?

How late a realisation is that...? I was so focused on myself...

I didn't consider Joe's perspective for a second...


  • Sara does seem to kind of take Joe for granted sometimes.






“Heheh, I was so nervous I couldn't talk at all.”

“Somehow, we ended up talking about you, Sara.”

“Eh?”



“Wahhh?! You promised you wouldn't tell anyone!”

“Hahaha! It sure got the conversation lively!”

“...So then I sorta asked her why she decided to go out with me.”







“'Cause I was thinking the same thing.”

“Joe...”



“So, like... Stop lookin' like you're on the verge of tears.”

“I mean, Joe, you're...”



“…”

“...Heehee.”

Music stops.

“You're right, Joe. I'd better have you protect me.”



“Erase that from your memory! I mean it!”



Talk to Joe.

“I'll rest a little, then get back to searching.”



Music stops.




“I'll go look! Gonbee, you...”

“Hmph... I will remain here...!”

(I'll leave him alone.)






Investigate the open door.

The red door is open, and shines a bright white light.


(The counter above the door is 0...!)



Music stops.

(It'd be dangerous to enter. I'll just... take a peek...)

I carefully stuck only my head into the room.

And then...




“Wha...?!”

With that, I lost consciousness.




Investigate the table.

An extravagant feast.

Investigate the monitor.

Miley is pictured on the screen.





“This is a pre-recorded video. ...So I'm afraid I can't answer any questions.”

“Allow me to thank you, truly, for taking part in the Main Game.”



(Main Game...?!)



“You may fill yourself with food before the game, or form a strategy. Use it however you please.”

(W...What is she saying...)

“Those who successfully beat the Main Game can proceed to the next floor! Hooray!”



“Please be aware.... Eheehee.”

(The next... floor...)



(...Card...?)








(What are you calling “simple”...?!)








(Stop it...! Stop this...!)

Music stops.

“However, there are holes in this game.”




“And so, everyone, please take out your cards!”

(Cards...)




















Music stops.

(H... Hold on...)

(Does this mean.... Could it be...)



(No way...)

I felt like... I heard something at that moment.




Investigate the table.

(How could I have any appetite right now...?)

In the end, we're being held in the palms of the kidnappers' hands. Our heads can fly off at their single whim. There might not be any exit. We'll just be toyed with and killed until they're satisfied.

(In that case... then we're just going to...)

(…)

It's a strange thing.



Maybe there was no chance left to be afraid.








(Haha... I'm coming to hate my own positivity.)




  • The card with the highest chance of survival is the "worst of cards"?


Music stops.

I only drank a little water...

And the time... arrived.






“I wish you luck. Eheehee... Ahaha...”

HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 4, 2020

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Wow, things keep escalating. Judging by the previous tests, I still feel like there's some way they haven't mentioned to keep everyone alive.

Also very suspicious about Sou now. Especially because his supposed card didn't have any warning or other text on it like Sara's did.

differentiating
Mar 30, 2019



Unsurprisingly, the sacrifice card was bad news. I imagine figuring out who wound up with it is going to be a big part of the next section, since the only other card that's important to figure out to keep everyone else from dying is the keymaster, and we know that one already.

Of course, keymaster is useful in terms of not dying from votes, but not in terms of figuring out who's who, so we'll still have to be careful with our vote. There's a 1/10 chance of picking the wrong person and being killed.

OOrochi posted:

Wow, things keep escalating. Judging by the previous tests, I still feel like there's some way they haven't mentioned to keep everyone alive.

Also very suspicious about Sou now. Especially because his supposed card didn't have any warning or other text on it like Sara's did.

What do you mean about his supposed card?

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


differentiating posted:

What do you mean about his supposed card?

Might’ve been better phrased as “the card that was supposedly his.” But thanks to how Sou’s acting and the circumstances of the attack, I’m leaning towards the sacrifice card not being his actual card. Whether that’s due to him being in on it or the actual game master messing with Sara remains to be seen.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

And then, of course, there's the Sage. Who knows that Sara is to be trusted and shouldn't be voted for?

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011






I forgot that Sara put the Sacrifice card back. Though I am curious now, what would have happened if she had both the Keymaster and Sacrifice cards? And especially if she was voted as the one who dies.

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

I also forgot and was going to assume someone was going to die due to not having a card to scan and Sara was going to have to pick which card to scan which would lead to crazy branching.

Gosts
Jan 15, 2016




Oh man, I really love this game. I've been waiting for part 3 to come out for a long time... But I can pass the wait by watching all you folks enjoy the ride! :yeshaha:

For obvious reasons I will decline to comment on future happenings... Other than to say this game is really good!

Plot characters story etc. are all wonderful... As a designer I have a lot of issues with the mechanics of the game. More on that later. But specifically, the 'red room' I found to be the most aggravating part of the game. It made me feel like I was playing a flash horror game on newgrounds with how nonsensical some of the puzzle elements were. But honestly, that was the worst part of the game. It's all uphill from here.

yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



Junpei posted:

And then, of course, there's the Sage. Who knows that Sara is to be trusted and shouldn't be voted for?

My guess is Keiji. He's been very trusting of us, and very encouraging of everyone else to trust us.

Regallion
Nov 11, 2012



That wouldn't make sense, since he's been trusting from the get-go, but he would not have knowledge of who is the keymaster until Sara scanned her card, as presumably that's when he's told who is a keymaster.

Eeepies
May 29, 2013

No, that's Magic!


By the way, has there been any branching paths at all so far, or is this a linear story like Dangan Ronpa?

Gosts
Jan 15, 2016




Eeepies posted:

By the way, has there been any branching paths at all so far, or is this a linear story like Dangan Ronpa?

I don't think it spoils anything to answer your question, but just to be EXTRA safe,

Up to now: There have been 'no branches' in the sense that, so far, nothing we've done could make a major change to the plot. Currently, all we've done is choose who we want to learn more about (by picking who to talk to or who to investigate with, when we're allowed to) or make decisions that will have callbacks later, but won't really 'branch' in the sense that I assume you're asking about

In the future: The game is not linear, but anything else is too close to a spoiler for me to say unless HydroSphere wants to answer that.

differentiating
Mar 30, 2019



OOrochi posted:

Might’ve been better phrased as “the card that was supposedly his.” But thanks to how Sou’s acting and the circumstances of the attack, I’m leaning towards the sacrifice card not being his actual card. Whether that’s due to him being in on it or the actual game master messing with Sara remains to be seen.

The warnings on Sara's card were present on that same card as well; you can see them in the screenshot. Those warnings seem to be the part of the card that glows in the dark and attracts attention.

Regallion posted:

That wouldn't make sense, since he's been trusting from the get-go, but he would not have knowledge of who is the keymaster until Sara scanned her card, as presumably that's when he's told who is a keymaster.

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the sage not being notified until now as well. Otherwise, there are too many variables to control for.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...



I notice these rules don't address what happens if two people tie, which, since the total number of votes is 12 is entirely possible. It might not actually be a good idea to try this, but maybe...

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

Miley believes there are 11 living players of which 5 with be picked in the pre-lims, according to the post.

EDIT : I guess two people can still tie. I'm thinking the prize can be shared. The mastermind does not seem to mind extra and early deaths.

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


differentiating posted:

The warnings on Sara's card were present on that same card as well; you can see them in the screenshot. Those warnings seem to be the part of the card that glows in the dark and attracts attention.

Oh, you're totally right. Though I'm still suspicious of Sou and whether the sacrifice card is actually his.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...



Tylana posted:

Miley believes there are 11 living players of which 5 with be picked in the pre-lims, according to the post.

EDIT : I guess two people can still tie. I'm thinking the prize can be shared. The mastermind does not seem to mind extra and early deaths.

11 players, one of whom (Sacrifice) gets 2 votes, therefore 10 + 2 makes 12 votes that could hypothetically go 6-6. Sharing the prize result between the choices would be a clever dodge though.

e: What happens if either the Keymaster or Sacrifice are one of the two choices and the other is a Commoner? Just whatever results in the most deaths?

Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Feb 4, 2020

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M.c.P
Mar 27, 2010

Stop it.
Stop all this nonsense.



Nap Ghost

Fun little prisoner’s dilemma. The candidate selection - death selection is kinda twisty.
I also assume that the only moratorium is on actually revealing their cards but people can say whatever. Game theory speculation to follow:

However, only the sacrifice has any reason to say they’re the sacrifice. Getting votes is bad for everyone else. It’s in everyone’s interest to claim to be the key master, its not in commoner’s interest to claim to be the sacrifice.

The no deaths option is for the sacrifice to be voted for, then for the sacrifice to choose to stay in the game.
The other option is to team up on some commoner schmuck, but you need 6 buddies on board with killing two people by vote, or at least 3 buddies if you can convince everyone else not to vote for the sacrifice.
And if the goal is to have things not rotate around others people’s choices, trying to get 6 people to vote for two deaths seems a lot more trouble than convincing the sacrifice not to kill 9 people.

Only wrench here is a sacrifice with a clear and vested interest in saving themselves and/or one buddy. So... Joe.


All this assuming, of course, that everyone involved doesn’t have bouts of nihilism, misunderstands the rules, just makes poor choices, etc.

M.c.P fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Feb 4, 2020

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