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HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





“...Here we are.”

(Keiji...)

“…! You guys.... That was fast...”



“…..........”

“...Oogh...”

“…”

“...Hmph. All of you, so pale...”

“…..........”

“…..........”



A desperate game is beginning. And yet, we just have to play it.

“Eeehee... Ah, so you'll take part after all?”

“Miley...!! You...!!”

“Ahaha.... Please take a good look at those desks, everyone.”






Music stops.

“Well then, shall the discussion begin?”

“Hold up!! Kanna... Kanna ain't here!!”



“H... Hold on!! Kanna... will definitely come!!”

“Time is limited. That is what she chose, and that is the end of the matter.”



(Did I... make... the wrong choice...?)



“Well then, let us start the Main Game! Everyone, stand at whichever desk you like!”

We were urged to head for the desks.

“Now then, you seem to be prepared!”

“Let the Main Game begin!”

Music stops.




“Kanna....!!”



“…..........”

“Ahaha...! Let this wonderful, wonderful Main Game begin!”







An extremely heavy air dominates the space.

(It's different... This is nothing like the discussions we've had before...)

“Heeheehee... Well, I shall go over the basic rules one more time.”





“If the victim is the Sacrifice, the Sacrifice wins, and can escape with one person of their choosing.”



“Ah, yes... I have left rulebooks on the desks. Make use of them as items, everyone.”

“That is all... Heeheehee. Use your time however you please.”

Music stops.

Miley quietly sat down in a chair.





Talk to Q-taro.



Music stops.

“I've already settled on my pick...”

“Huh...?!”

“Curse me if you wanna! I...”



“…..........”

“What about it?”

“Say what...?!”



“Mwahaha... Do what you like.”



“You're the fools... Just think for a second.”

“How do you mean that...?”

“This vote... shouldn't be focused on one point.”

“Indeed, this is the preliminary vote. If we were to unanimously vote for Mr. Gonbee...”

“Gonbee would be our only choice for the final vote...”



“We're all done feeeer?!”

“It's not as if we freely chose which role cards we got, right?”

(We were guided... into picking them up...!)



“And now... The chaos ensures! I'll watch closely as you all flail about...”

“Dammit...!”



“If we want to survive, we need to assemble as close to 5 candidates as we can.”

“We gotta suspect FIVE people?!”

Music stops.

This is... the worst. An oppressive air covers the area.

“Sheesh... Already beaten at the first push?”

“...I'll make a topic for you.”



“Eh...?!”

“Hold on!! Sara's like our leader!! What's your basis...?!”

“Haha... The why don't we discuss whether her actions are suspicious or not?”



  • Sara loses ten clout when she gives a wrong answer, or presents an incorrect item. Answering / presenting correctly awards twenty clout. Losing all clout is a game over.




“I found it suspicious from the word go... How a mere high school girl became a leader.”

“Sara's almost always acted with others. She couldn't do anything suspicious...right?”

“Doubting the others is one thing, but doubting Sara?! You're awful...!”

“Sara! Talk back to him! Gonbee's just got the wrong idea about you!”

“Hmph... You sure have a lot of friends...”

“Have at you, Sara Chidouin...!”

Extract statement from Joe.

“Sara! Talk back to him! Gonbee's just got the wrong idea about you!”

“Shove some evidence in his face, like last time!”

“Yep, I've got this.”

“So cooool!”

Extract statement from Nao.

“Doubting the others is one thing, but doubting Sara?! You're awful...!”

“I want him to repent for saying that! He must!”

“...Please calm down, Nao.”

“Ah, s... sorry...”

Extract statement from Keiji.

“Sara's almost always acted with others. She couldn't do anything suspicious...right?”

“Yeesh... That guy seems pretty stubborn, huh.”

“Ought to present some clear evidence to refute 'im.”

Extract statement from Gonbee.

“I found it suspicious from the word go... How a mere high school girl became a leader.”



“What do you mean by that...?!”

“You alone have a weapon... The only one!”

“A... weapon?”

Music stops.





(I drew out a new statement... If I can refute it, even Gonbee should quiet down!)



Use Long Narrow Box against Gonbee.

Music stops.




“Hm?”

“This box was in the kitchen. It says “Please use as you wish”, yet there was nothing inside to use.”

“...What of it?”

“All that's left is an impression. An impression made by a kitchen knife.”

“What...?! A kitchen knife?!”

“Yep. By the time Sara checked it, it was gone. Somebody probably went and took it.”

“The kitchen was locked the whole time. And Miss Sara very rarely acted alone...”

“So surely she could not have taken it.”





  • Sara's trying to prove her innocence; the question of who took the knife isn't relevant to that, especially with the time limit.


(...There's no need... to prove everything!)



“That's not relevant right now!!”



“The point I'm making is that I don't have control of all the weapons!”

“So I didn't earn this trust by force!!”



(That's right...! I can't fall into my opponent's trap!)

“Sheesh! Look at you, feeling all pleased!”

Music stops.

“...Hmph. Very well. I'll speak no more...”

“You trusting fools can just suspect one another.”

(…!!)

(...Right... There's no time to celebrate. With Gonbee quiet, it just means we have to talk...!)





…..........

...What should I say?




Music stops.

“I've... resolved on an answer.”

“Q-taro...”

“Lettin' this end in silence's the most inane plan we could take. That's why I'm gonna say it.”






“…!!”

“…”



“Are you shittin' me?! You think YOU ain't gonna get picked just 'cause you've got strength?!”

Music stops.

“Then go ahead and vote for me!!”

“Wha...?!”

“Vote what your will tells ya!!”



“That's what I mean by resolve!!”



“…..........”

“...Nao! Kanna! Gin! Tell him! Use your words... to prove your worth!!”

“...Ah... I... I...!”

“I searched as best I could!! And I found things! Lots of things...!!”

“K... Kanna...”

“…..........”

“…..........”

“Gin! If ya don't talk... it's over...!”



“...Looks bad, Sara. Q-taro is serious.”

“What should I...?!”

Music stops.

“…Draw it out for 'em. That's something only you can do.”

(Only I can...?!)



Extract statement from Nao.

“I searched as best I could!! And I found things! Lots of things...!!”

“I know I dragged you down...! But... I did give it my all!!”

“I'm begging you...! Please don't cut me out...!!”



“Nao, please you need to be calm. Especially in times like this.”

“Ahh... ooh....”

“Sorry...”

(Maybe she's regained a little composure...?)

Extract statement from Gin.

“…”



“It's okay, big sis Sara is here. Do you want to say something?”

“ ...”

(No good... Gin's keeping his silence.)

Extract statement from Q-taro.



“Sara! I'm serious 'bout this!”

“If there's somebody wishin' they were dead... I won't stand for it!”

Extract statement from Kanna.

“K... Kanna...”

“…Miss Sara...”

“…........”

“…!”



“Come out and say it.”

“...Kanna...”

“…?”

Music stops.

“…Kanna...”



“Kan... na...?”

“Even if she's chosen... it's fine.”

(…!!)

Conflict Kanna against Q-taro.

“Kanna... doesn't really mind if she's picked...”

“Wh.... aaaaaat...?!”


HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 6, 2020

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yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



It's super, incredibly lovely of Q-Taro to immediately throw the two kids under the bus. Like seriously, what the hell? They're children, of course they're scared and don't know what to do. What a jackass.

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Yeah definitely a lovely thing to do. Though I can’t tell if he’s doing it to seriously try and get rid of them or just to get people energized and involved in figuring out what to actually do. Just in the most tactless and direct manner possible.

And oof, poor Kanna’s just totally hit rock bottom.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.



Q-taro struck me as a dick back in the Russian Roulette game with the way he hammered on Keiji but jesus christ.

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!



He's totally trying to play the heel to shake people out of shock, but not surprisingly, the kids don't respond well to that. He pretty much gives the game away with his reaction of shock to Kanna saying she's fine with dying.

Eeepies
May 29, 2013

No, that's Magic!


Yeah I think he's calling the children out early so that they can defend themselves and be eliminated from the voting list.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





“Kanna!! Don't be ridiculous!!”

“I'm just... tired...”

“Please, wait.”

“Miss Kanna, are you serious? Or is this an act?”

“Kanna... won't say anything else... Please do what you want...”

“…”



Sacrifice...?!”



“The Sacrifice must be chosen to survive. Thus, they would put on a one-man show.”



“T-Then no pickin' her for now, right...?!”

(Not participating in the discussion so as to earn herself votes...?)

(I can't imagine Kanna playing those sorts of mind games...)

Music stops.



“Everyone, let's just put the subject of Kanna aside for now.”

“...Can't know her true intent, after all.”

“First, why don't we hear from Gin and Miss Nao too, and then make our decision?”

“Sou...”



“…”

“Thank you, Miss Sara.”

“Oh, that's right. There's something I should take this opportunity to tell everyone.”

“…?”



  • The nametag is incorrect, Sou is speaking here.

Huh...?



“Besides, if the Keymaster doesn't manage things, they'll just turn into a mess.

What... is Sou saying...? The Keymaster... is me.

“Really...?! That's the truth, ain't it...?!”



  • If Sara claims Keymaster now, it could derail the conversation into an argument and waste valuable time. Plus Sara doesn't really have enough information to tell understand what Sou's angle is here.

(I don't know...! Is it right for me to announce myself now?!)

(As Miley explained it, there's... one Keymaster.)



"...Hm, is that a fact? No, I'm afraid I can't believe that easily...”

"But for the current time, Sou, I will trust you are the Keymaster.”

"Thanks. I'll do my best.”

“For now, Gin, could we get some proper statements from you?”

“Meow...”

“Y-Yeah, tha's right! Gin! Be a man! Tell him what you gotta say!”







“Gin's frightened! And it's you crude-rear end men to blame!”

“We've got no time. Gin, prove that you've been useful to everybody!”

Extract statement from Gin.

“…..........”



“Gin, it's okay. Can you remember what you've seen and noticed in this place?”

“…..........”

(It's no good... Gin's closed his heart...)

Extract statement from Q-taro.



“That's true for me... and it's true for you too, right?”



(Q-taro is serious...!)

Extract statement from Reko.

“Gin's frightened! And it's you crude-rear end men to blame!”

“You say something too, Sara!

“Reko... Can you recall anything in particular that Gin did?”

“Err, well... hmm...”

“Ah...”



(What exactly was it...?)

Music stops.

Conflict Reko against Q-taro.

“Gin! Show it to 'em! The amazing thing you found searching the second floor room!”

“Amazin' thing...?!”

“…..........”

“…I...dunno... anything about that, meow.”



“Wh... what'd you say...?”

“Reko...”

“Ya got a fine attitude... but see here.”



“Augggh...!!”

“No!! I... I tell you... I'm not lying...!!”




“...Woof... Big sis Reko...”



“You see, Gin?! Reko's being called a liar just for speaking up for you! Don't you feel bad?!”

“...I do... I do, meow... but... but...”

“What a cowardly kid! You call yourself a man?!”








(I need to swing the needle to either side... or this balance will never collapse!)




Affirm “Nobody's gonna lend a hand if yet silent!!”

“Q-taro is right! Gin, please say something! It doesn't matter what!”

“But... but I mean...”



Deny “...I didn't see anything, meow...”

“Oh, really?! So was everything Reko said a lie?”

“N-No, meow! B-But... but I didn't...”



Deny “...Big sis Reko's got it wrong, woof...”

“She didn't get anything wrong! Gin, why are you being stubborn about this...?!”

“I... I...!!”

Music stops.

“I just... didn't wanna believe that thing, woof!!”

“I didn't wanna show that thing... and make everyone worry, meow...”



“Gin, you shouldn't worry about it all alone.”

“Mya... Big sis Sara...”

“I believe you, Gin. Whatever strange thing you present, I'll handle it.”

“…!”



“Okay , meow...!”



“Jus' so ya know, I take “gorilla” as a compliment!”

“...Woof! I believe you too, big sis Sara!”

“Yeah!”



“But then, woof! Taking a look in there... I noticed some hand-torn paper too, meow.”

“A... and there, woof... it said...”

Music stops.








“What're you on about?!”

“Q-taro! Please, don't shout!!”

Music stops.

(But what's the meaning of this? I need to get more details...!)



Extract statement from Gin.

“There was torn paper in the shredder... And it said... big sis Sara was a murderer... But I … believe in big sis Sara, woof...”

(Err... What should I ask first...?)



“This letter, or whatever it was... Was it handwritten?”

“Err... I think so, meow.”



“This letter, or whatever it was... Was it addressed to someone else?”

“Umm, so... Lemme think...”




“If you have the actual letter on you, could you show it to me?”





“So that's important, woof? Got it, meow! I'll state it loud and clear, woof!”

Use the “Torn Paper” on Gin.



Music stops.

“What is it, meow?”

“Take a look at this. It's a piece of paper I picked up.”



“Just like the one you have, right?”

“This is Gin's.”



(If you notice... The fact that Q-taro is listed as a high school teacher is weird, too...)

“Look at this. If you remove the left half... And connect it to the piece I have...!”





“They connected, woof!!”



(That's it. Multiple sheets were torn all at once.)



(And stacked them like this...)




(In other words...)

“There were at least two of these sheets stacked together.”



“Since they fit together so cleanly, of course misunderstandings would happen.”

“Yaaaaay! Thank goodness, meow!!”

Music stops.

“But y'know... What are these sheets in the first place?”

“...They are creepy, aren't they.”

“The professor's name is on here, and even some people I don't know...”

“And whatever could the percentages on the side be...?”

“…..........”

“Anyway! I've proved I was useful for exploring, meow!”



“Eh...? Then who IS a murderer, meow?”

HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 6, 2020

yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



Was Mishima a high school teacher? I assumed Nao was in college.

Ghost Car
Sep 14, 2009


tomanton posted:

Wait, isn't 'Keiji' just another word for policeman? Is he the Japanese equivalent of Constable Constable?

Somewhat belatedly, yes, it is (刑事 are the kanji), and yes, he is. It's like a sub-Ace Attorney-tier on-the-nose pun name and somehow I found it harder to take seriously than the really out-there names.

yamiaainferno posted:

Was Mishima a high school teacher? I assumed Nao was in college.

She is; he was her teacher when she was in high school.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013


Honestly I'm also getting the feeling that Q-Taro is the either the Sacrifice or just generically trying to sacrifice himself, and he's trying to be a gigantic rear end in a top hat to draw votes.

Oh gee I wonder if the person wearing the prison outfit and handcuffs and ball/chain could be Alice, a murderer, and also a liar.

No, surely even a murderer wouldn't lie about their name.

Also, another detective?

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





“Yabusame? That sounds kinda familiar, meow.”

(There's only one person here with the last name Yabusame...)




  • If you select someone other than Reko here, Sara provides a little bit of information on some of the names; if you select Joe, Sara mentally berates herself for forgetting her best friends name, Keiji left a strong first impression. Kanna's name uses a lot of kanji. Sara can't remember if Q-taro's name is Q-taro Burgerberg or Cubetaro Hamberger. Sou's name means sunny weather, which Sara thinks is kind of a reflection of his personality. Gonbee has an old-fashioned name. Gin has a "stoic name for a kid". Kai has a very common name, and Nao's name means "Heart of art", which Sara thinks is fitting.

“Reko, as I recall... You're Reko Yabusame, aren't you?”



“Urgh...!!”

“Y... Yeah... I'm Reko Yabusame...”



“Uh-huh...”



“Like Reko says.... I think there's a separate person called Alice.”

“...Why's that?”

“The blackboard in the bar...!”

“That blackboard had a list of people who could and couldn't drink!”

“And it said both “Reko” and “Alice”!

“...Ummm...”

“Come to think of it, when I was searching... I found some chalk on the floor...”

“So... it's not impossible it was changed.”

“Y-You got it wrong! It's not me!!”

“Besides, handwritten pieces of paper?! Anybody could make those, right?!”

“If they had a pen, sure.”

“Oof...!”

“B... Big sis Reko can't be a murderer, woof!!”




“Alice is... your brother, not your sister? Even your excuses are becoming illogical.”

“It ain't an excuse...!!”

“Reko, tell the truth...!”

“Believe me!! I'm... I mean... I...!!”

“...Reko...!”



  • It's hard to see Reko under pressure, but a murderer isn't something that can be ignored.

“...............”

“Sara...”

Music stops.

“Dammit...! I... I...”




“...”

“...............”







“...Listen, we're in the middle of a serious discussion right now...”

“And I'm being serious too!!”



“Y-You for real?!”

“Couldn't hide it, huh...”



“Then... the “murderer”...”

“Is me!”



“Isn't this guy some serious bad news...?!”

“Yes, that's right! Indeed, I am... a damned criminal!!”

“And Reko cut me off as well, saying to never show her my mug again!”

“And yet... It's not even funny!! To think we'd reunite in this place...!!”

“Me and him are total strangers at this point.”



“So when he woke up, I told him to hide our relation.”

“Right after you went to look for Nao...!”

“...So that's it...”

“...”



“But Reko is different. She's a good and proper person.”

“...That's all I wanted to say... Dammit all.”

“So you deny any connection with the kidnappers?”

“Right...”

“Why I was brought here... I still don't know.”



“It's just the ramblings of a killer.... Hahahaha...”

Music stops.

“Despite us talking about Gin, we got some unexpected information there.”

“There are still many more points of interest... But there's no time.”



“Eh...?! M-Me...?!”



(No helping it... We should move to the next topic.)

“Well then, Miss Nao. Please... give us your justification.”

“...!”







“...Illogical, eh?”

“Aren't you curious what she was up to in the kitchen, holding the box with Mishima?”

“Tell me what you were doing then, Miss Nao.”



“I took the box... and just sat and hid in the kitchen. I didn't even touch anything in the room..”

“I know I troubled you all a lot...”

“But I... didn't want to lose him...!”

“After everyone else, I inspected the kitchen, and found no signs of any trickery.”

“Perhaps she truly was just hiding?”

Extract statement from Sou.



“I wonder if she really was just hiding?”

(Sou seems to want to imply something...)

Extract statement from Kai.

“After everyone else, I inspected the kitchen, and found no signs of any trickery.”

“Miss Sara, you searched before me, so you should be aware of this as well.”

Extract statement from Nao.

“I took the box... and just sat and hid in the kitchen. I didn't even touch anything in the room..”

“Sitting in the dark... I asked him questions again and again...”

“Even though... I wouldn't get an answer...”

Use Long Narrow Box on Nao.

Music stops.



“Did you really not touch anything?”

“Huh...?!”



“The kitchen had been locked until then.”

“And after you left, Nao, we obtained this long, narrow box. There was nothing inside.”



“I-I don't know anything about that!”

“Hold on... When and how did Nao find the key to the kitchen, anyway?”

“..............”

Music stops.

“It was open...”

(Eh...?)

“The kitchen door was unlocked at the time!”



“Then somebody else went in first, meow! That's who took the knife, woof!”

(First... I carried Alice over to the Pink Room. At that time, someone dug through the kitchen... took the knife, and left... Finally, Nao went into the kitchen with the box and locked herself in.)

(Does the timing... work out?)

“Hmm... Maybe that's logical? It's super sketchy, though...”

“I-It's not sketchy in the least!! I-I'll tell you anything!!”

“Well then, Miss Nao... Tell us what you were doing in the kitchen.”







“...Welp... Guess you'll just have to break the ice, Sara.”

(Yeah... I need to ask her about... that...!)

Extract statement from Keiji.

“If she never let it go...”

...”Then I wonder why the box was empty?”

“We'll just hafta ask her.”

  • Nao gives the same statement as she did last time.

Conflict Keiji against Nao.

Music stops.

“So you're lying, huh, Nao.”

“Wha...?!”





“What?! T-That can't be right...!!”

“It's true, Nao.”

“What's that?! I don't know anything! The professor was with me the whole time!!”

“Where did he go?!”

“Hrm... Is this an act...?”

“Nao ain't that kind of gal! There's gotta be a reason it vanished!!”



“If Nao is just acting, then...”

“Can't really put together why she'd need to lie to us here.”

Music stops.

(What's going on...?! I don't understand!)







“Nao respected Professor Mishima! Maybe her shock was so great that she unconsciously did something strange?!”

“It must've gotten swapped at some point with another box the kidnappers prepared!”



“Miss Nao being manipulated by the kidnappers... Is that a possibility...?”

(Is there no good lead...?!)

Extract statement from Reko.

“It must've gotten swapped at some point with another box the kidnappers prepared!”

“I mean, this place is full of crap like that...!”

“The kitchen is pitch black! It got swapped in the dark when she wouldn't notice!”

Extract statement from Nao.

“To me, Professor Mishima was...”

“A very, very important figure...”




“…Is that all?”

“Is that strange...? You'd understand, right, Sara?”

(Wasn't she curious about who voted for Professor Mishima...?)

Extract statement from Gin.

“The contents of box warped, meow! L-Like a dimensional teleporter thing, woof!”

“This place must be a hyper-advanced mansion, meow!”

“Gin...”

“Big sis Nao isn't a bad person, meow!! Do something, woof...”

Extract statement from Sou.

“Miss Nao being manipulated by the kidnappers... Is that a possibility...?”

“Maybe she was on the kidnappers' side to start... Or maybe brainwashed or something...”

“...Doubting doesn't feel good, does it...”

Extract statement from Joe.

“Nao respected Professor Mishima! Maybe her shock was so great that she unconsciously did something strange?!”

“It's not like we always act in the most logical way, right?!”

“This was after that awful vote..! If I felt what Nao felt... I'd...!”



“Joe, if it had been you who lost someone precious in that vote, what would you do?”

“If it were me...”



“Snap?”




“That's what I mean! You don't always follow logic!!”

(Yeah... maybe so. If someone else killed them... anger would be a natural response.)

Conflict Nao against Joe.

Music stops.

“Nao... I'm a little curious.”

“Huh...?”



“I mean, it wasn't an “accident”... That happened to someone you respected because he was voted for...”

“Ain't it... more natural to get angry?”

“I-I... I don't think so at all...”






“W-What are you...”

“Maybe Miss Nao and Professor Mishima didn't have any bond at all...”

“Then I could understand her mindset of not seeking out the culprit.”

“How awful...”

“You're awful!! Just awful!! I truly did...!!”

“...Sara, what do you think?”



(Those two... seemed to have a great relationship. I can't point to some logical proof. There was just something about it...)

(Nao being that distraught couldn't be an act.)




“Uh...?”

“Suppose Miss Nao didn't stick Professor Mishima in the box out of affection for him...”

“Rather, maybe her objective was to retrieve the collar on his neck..?”

“...In other words, information that Miley failed to retrieve?

“You tryin' to say Nao collected the collar in place of the kidnappers?!”

“Dunno... However...”



“H... Hey! Ya bein' serious?!”

“What, what...?! What are you talking abooout?!”



“Then tell us! Why didn't you care who the culprit was after the vote?!”



Music stops.



“...!!”

placid saviour
Apr 6, 2009


Sou is such an evil bastard.

I can't believe how much I'm on the edge of my seat over this anime game.

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

I am pleasantly surprised at how good this is seeming.

EDIT : Seeming just because you know, maybe the actual gamefeel is worse than the screenshots, but the BGM seems solid?

Chatrapati
Nov 6, 2012


placid saviour posted:

Sou is such an evil bastard.

I can't believe how much I'm on the edge of my seat over this anime game.

Ditto, I'm really enjoying it. Sou makes such a good villain though, so I can't imagine him dying this round.

thecluckmeme
Mar 31, 2013

I AM A FUCKING MORON



Grimey Drawer

I'm really holding back from playing this game because I love the story so far but I like the way the LP gives suspense. This is so good

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Yeah, this is really engrossing.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

REAL TOP DOG SHIT
We Have Unlocked Woke Junpei Mode
Fuck Up Cops 2020
Beloved Forums Poster
Evolved Heightened Level Junpei
Junpei Is Not Ironic And That Is Why He Is Good

My minimal knowledge of Japanese makes me feel like "Alice" should have been localized as "Arisu" just so it sounds... you know... Japanese.

The Flying Twybil
Oct 20, 2019

So what? You can't prove I posted that.

Junpei posted:

My minimal knowledge of Japanese makes me feel like "Alice" should have been localized as "Arisu" just so it sounds... you know... Japanese.

Eh, could just be a "Boy named Sue" type of deal, but it is odd that it stands out as one of the few names that sounds distinctly different than the others. The only other "non-Japanese" name I can think of is Miley's, and that's for the intentional wordplay I believe.

Anyways, just chiming in to agree that this is surprisingly engrossing. The tension is high, and I'm surprised to see how much of a turnabout Sou is.

someone awful.
Sep 7, 2007




if dangan ronpa can have its Nirvana references, then this game can have Alice in chains

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

Hi, Everybody!


Junpei posted:

My minimal knowledge of Japanese makes me feel like "Alice" should have been localized as "Arisu" just so it sounds... you know... Japanese.

I have no clue if it's changed for localization, but the basic intent looks to have been have the player look at the name and assume Alice => female. Just using "Arisu" doesn't achieve that.

mycelia
Apr 28, 2013

just a big doofus fightin pokemons





someone awful. posted:

if dangan ronpa can have its Nirvana references, then this game can have Alice in chains

oh god loving dammit

Also having played it I can confirm that it is surprisingly good. Simple, but good. I honestly can't believe it's free, but I guess that's part of what got it the size of audience it has.

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And we still have no clue who the Sage is...

Doopliss
Nov 3, 2012


Junpei posted:

And we still have no clue who the Sage is...
Kai pretty quickly responsed to Sou's claim with "yeah right, rear end in a top hat", which makes me suspect it's him. Normal hidden identity game rules obviously don't apply in a goofy murder anime, but that still seems like an odd thing to do to an uncontested verifiable claim.

differentiating
Mar 30, 2019



Definitely wouldn't have guessed that Alice was our friend's real name, but that does clear up the "same last name" bit. He's really starting to grow on me, though - even though he and Reko are supposedly estranged, he obviously still loves his little sister, enough to out himself as a murderer (and therefore risk having his head on the chopping block) to protect her.

I'm also curious why Reko is so opposed to following this line of questioning, beyond her general defense of the younger characters. Did Nao tell her something when she was comforting her earlier? There's also something ironic about Sou and Joe being the two people pressing her on this, since they're two people who might have voted for Mishima in the first place (more likely Sou than Joe, but the former did accuse the latter, so if he spread that around...) and therefore would be the ones potentially targeted by Nao if she took their advice.

yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



differentiating posted:

I'm also curious why Reko is so opposed to following this line of questioning, beyond her general defense of the younger characters. Did Nao tell her something when she was comforting her earlier? There's also something ironic about Sou and Joe being the two people pressing her on this, since they're two people who might have voted for Mishima in the first place (more likely Sou than Joe, but the former did accuse the latter, so if he spread that around...) and therefore would be the ones potentially targeted by Nao if she took their advice.

I think that either A) Reko voted for Mishima, which means the votes really are all out of whack, or B) She's figured out that Nao likely voted for Mishima, and doesn't want people pressing her about it and causing another total breakdown, this time out of guilt. I think that B is more likely, just because Nao seems pretty fragile, and Reko probably knows that another meltdown would cement her as the clear choice to be killed off.

Sou is confirmed full of poo poo, honestly. I think he's decided that Joe is his target, for whatever reason, and is trying to build up suspicion against him.

differentiating
Mar 30, 2019



yamiaainferno posted:

I think that either A) Reko voted for Mishima, which means the votes really are all out of whack, or B) She's figured out that Nao likely voted for Mishima, and doesn't want people pressing her about it and causing another total breakdown, this time out of guilt. I think that B is more likely, just because Nao seems pretty fragile, and Reko probably knows that another meltdown would cement her as the clear choice to be killed off.

Sou is confirmed full of poo poo, honestly. I think he's decided that Joe is his target, for whatever reason, and is trying to build up suspicion against him.

Oh, 100% Sou was one of the votes for Mishima. Dude's clearly trying to stir some poo poo up. I just wonder if he spread that story to more people than just Sara.

Nao voting for Mishima is probably the answer, especially since she really snapped when Joe said "those who voted for him killed him". But that still leaves the question of why she would do that at all.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.



I think since nobody knew the vote ends with death, and Nao's first instinct is to turn to Mishima so it was a blind panic vote.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





(Wha...?)

“I overheard... all of it.”

“It was just before the vote...”






“...?”



“He said that...?”

“Thinking the vote was just a test... I'm sure Nao voted for Mishima like he asked...”



  • Mishima really was a good liar, even though he did always have the best intentions.

“To protect his student... just in case?”

“That's... why Nao didn't look for the culprit...”

“Don't bring up any “ill will” crap, 'cause it doesn't matter...!”



“Nao...”

“I... Aaaah... If I... I... hadn't voted for him...!”



“All this time I'd been thinking, whoever voted for another person must've had bad intentions...!”

Music stops.



(What...?!)

“Wait! Joe! You voted for yourself?!”

“Huh? Yeah...”







“W...What's this about, Sou?”

“Ahaha, don't worry about it, everybody.”

“Miss Sara asked me who I voted for, so I just told her whatever.”

“She's so diligent, she must've taken it seriously.”

Music stops.

(This...!! This guy...!!)




“That's still a big mystery... But seems like Nao did nothin' wrong, 'least.”

“Maybe Reko had the right idea, and it got swapped out at some point.”

“Just discussing it's pointless, woof! Let's talk about that gorilla next, meow!”

“F'real?!”

“...You okay ignorin' it, Sara?”




(…!)

“S-Sorry. That was bad manners...”



“Hey, guys... You're never going to solve anything like this.”

“B-But...”



“But, well... Bad people always feign innocence.”

“You tryin' to say Nao's a bad person?!”

“I just remembered something.”

Music stops.



“Whaaaaaat?!”

“...”






“I... I...”

“...That's... wrong...”

“I'll hear out anything, Miss Nao.”

“Now's your only chance to tell the truth...”



“Tell me, do you have that courage?”

“I...”

Music stops.



“F... For real?!”

“You're joking, right?! Why, Nao?!”



“B... By who?!”



(…!!)







“..............”

Extract statement from Nao.

“After the body collection announcement, I ran with the box to the cafeteria, where...”

“Suddenly, Kai pulled me by the hand and pushed me into the kitchen.”



“O... Okay...”

“Kai protected me...”

“It's quite admirable of you to stand up to the kidnappers, Miss Nao.”

“Please!! Don't tell anyone about this!!”



“Well then, Miss Nao, would you indulge a request of mine?”

“W... What kind of request...?”

Music stops.

“That is enough.”

“Don't be a wet blanket. We were just getting to the good part.”



“I... It's not a lie!!”

“Kai... You deny threatening her?”

“Indeed. If she had been threatened, she would surely tell all at the start.”

“For Miss Nao has no reason to defend me.”

“It is quite difference from when Alice stood up for Miss Reko.”

“Awful... You're awful, Kai...!!”





“Miss Nao, you are attempting to drag in as many people as you can”

“You're wrong!!”



Affirm “I couldn't open the kitchen!”

“Like Nao says! She couldn't open the door to the kitchen!”

“And neither could I. In fact, the kitchen key was beyond the iron bars on the second floor, yes?”

“I did not go to the second floor. How do you explain the key's presence there?”



Affirm “The key was thrown from 1F to 2F!”

“That's it! There were iron bars just up the stairs from the first floor! They key was thrown through the gaps!”

“Is that so? I understand...”

“However, supposing I guided Miss Nao to the kitchen, do you believe I could threaten her?”



Deny “I would need a weakness to threaten with.”

“No! If you had the kitchen knife, you would be able to threaten her!”

“Then let us suppose I could indeed. Why would I have Miss Nao attack Sou?”



Deny “He must have had it out for Sou...”

“There wasn't anything deep enough for resentment. Which meant he had an objective not tied to Sou!”

“Hmm. If you insist that's the case, what objective could I have had?”



Affirm “To steal something, perhaps?”

“So you admit it, Kai!”

“Oh? What are you referring to?”

Music stops.





“.................”

“I remember now.... Kai said he'd defend me on the condition that he received the laptop.”

“Y'oughta remember the important part first!!”

“She lost herself enough to knock a dude out! 'Course her memory's gonna be fuzzy!!”

“I-I'm sorry... But... now I remember it clearly...”




“I-I can't...! If he sees me, he'll call for Sara!”

“Then you may borrow my frying pan. Approach from behind... Understand?”



“...But...”

“If you refuse, I will hand this key to someone else.”

“...That's...!”




Music stops.

“Sara...?!”

“But... That was all a lie, wasn't it...”

“Kai didn't keep his promise!! Kai... must be the one who took the professor away!!”

“.................”





Huh?!”

“The laptop is password-locked. Considering that, why do you think Kai would be so serious about taking it?”



“Ahaha, what a stupid explanation!”

“But... it's actually the correct one.”

“...!”

Music stops.

“Wait, if you know that... You unlocked it?!”



“Of course!”

“Wha?! Didn't you say you couldn't see anything?!”

“Yeah, but that was a lie.”

(Another... another lie...?!)

“See, the password...”

Music stops.



(Huh...?)



“It's Chidouin?!”

(What a... bizarre... lie...)

“Sorry to say, but it's true. I tried typing in everyone's names...”

“And my last attempt... was trustworthy Miss Sara's last name, Chidouin... Imagine my shock.”

“I...! I've never seen that laptop in my life!!”

“Of course I know this isn't your laptop, Miss Sara.”

“Then....!!”

“It's Kai's... Isn't it?”

“.................”



“So... you admit it.”

(What in the world is this...?)

“I wanted to read them all. If only Miss Nao hadn't whacked me... urgh...”

“Well now, what did they say...?”

Music stops.

“I remember them well.”





Extract statement from Sou.

“Among the emails on Kai's laptop was one saying “As planned, 17 people have been secured.””

“I was able to read four emails. All of them sent from Kai to some other person...”

“Though all the addresses were different. Nonsense addresses that seemed like codes...”

“I'm guessing that was a security measure to hide who they were being sent to.”

“I'll recount them starting from the oldest, okay?”

Music stops.










(What... in the world...)

“Death Game... You've gotta be shittin' me! Clearly he's talkin' about this!!”

“K... Kai! This's gotta be wrong, right?! You can't be with the kidnappers, yeah?!”

“Well now... Were the aproned scoundrel and Sara Chidouin acquainted?”

(I wouldn't say “acquainted”...!)

(Kai is... the man who stalked me...)



“Eh? M... Me?”

“I inferred that much myself.”



“And more terrifying yet...”

Music stops.

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Grimey Drawer

He is shaping up to be just like one of the best characters from Dangan Ronpa v3, the constantly-lying antagonist trying to direct the trial in a certain direction.

placid saviour
Apr 6, 2009


He's probably gonna survive this round and then pretend he did it all to point Sara to the right answers, the little poo poo

Tylana
May 5, 2011



Pillbug

Dammit Sou, don't pull a SPOILER on us.

Also hmm. Should play Dangan3 sometime, but money and gotta chew through Somnium first.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Tylana posted:

Dammit Sou, don't pull a SPOILER on us.

Also hmm. Should play Dangan3 sometime, but money and gotta chew through Somnium first.

DR3 is really good and well worth a play.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014









Extract statement from Joe.

“If we were with the kidnappers, obviously we wouldn't do that dangerous trial!!”

“We can't even trust the contents of those emails to start with!”

“What if Sou is just making it up as he goes?!”

(If Sou's opinion catches on like this, we'll be in danger...!)

  • Sou just repeats the emails if you extract a statement from him.

Conflict Joe against Sou.

“Huh... So you won't admit it.”



“Y... Yes, that's right! Something that terrifying... There's no point in doing it yourself, is there...?”

“Did you really do the trial...? You can't prove it, can you?”

“You cannot prove yourself, either. …Though if we had the laptop here, your lies would be exposed as well.”

“Even after your threat was exposed, you're still staying stubborn, eh?”



“Eh...?”



“Big sis Sara got me out of the cage, meow!! You look weak, but you're real cheeky, woof!”

“H-Hold on a second... That isn't what...”

“Just makin' sure here... But you didn't read the emails wrong, did you?”

Music stops.

“...H...Huh?”

“Err...”

“H-How strange...”

“What's the matter everybody...? Think calmly now...”

“L-Look, Kai and Nao's actions were proven!”

“Nao hit me... Made a big bump, even...”



“This is... just weird...”



  • I wonder if there's a Japanese equivalent of "The boy who cried wolf"?




“Open your eyes, everybody!!”

“I'm... I'm telling you what's right...!!”



  • Sou's used up all his goodwill.

“Sou, you're a liar.”

“..........”

“Actions and behaviour are what build trust. No one will believe the words of a liar.”










“...!”

”Shameful, the rest of you. The riffraff."

"Don't you value your lives? Don't you doubt when others are kind? Or do you not even have the brains to think for yourselves?”





“I've given up. On all you incompetents.”

“Worthless... Every one of you...”

“The loner snapped, meow... I'm scared, woof.”

“I can't count on any of you anymore. Miss Sara, let's talk it out ourselves.”

“…!”










“And Miss Sara's in on it, too.”

“Hold on! You're wrong! Where's your proof that I'm definitely with them?!"

“I think it can be inferred from the emails...”

“So that's all it is! A conjecture!!”

“...Hmph... I see.”



“All the emails were sent to a single person.”

“Sou, earlier you said that they were all sent to different email addresses!”

“What about it?”

“That means saying they all went to one person is just your own assumption!”

“I'm pretty confident in it myself... Though I suppose there's no proof.”

“Well... I'm just claiming it, anyway.”



“Aren't those three getting more and more dubious?”

“I understand how Kai is suspicious! Even suspicion of me is inevitable... but...”

“Suspecting the three of us as a group isn't right! You're just presenting this in a manipulative way!”

“Geez... That's a sharp remark.”

“Well, I'll say it like this for you.”



“I hadn't even imagined Joe would be involved too.

“Wait, please! Joe's name isn't even mentioned in the email! Making a conclusion off of that is letting your assumptions go wild!”

“You like personal attacks, huh, Miss Sara?”

“Ah, well... I guess I'll acknowledge it. That said, I'm not going to let you escape.”



“After all this, do you still deny any relation to Kai?”

“Of course I will! Isn't this all conjecture anyway?!”

“What's that...?”

“You provide some proof too, Sou! Proof those emails were there!!”

“Funny you say that, after you guys stole it... So unfortunately... I don't have proof.”

“Then we're in the same situation! I'm denying those emails!”

“...!”



Music stops.



*Cough*. I'm exhausted... I feel kind of sick...”

(I think I refuted nearly all his remarks...)

(And yet... why...?)



“...........”

“...........”

“...........”

*Cough*.



(We only... damaged our own trust.)

“G-Get a grip, everybody! Doubting Sara just isn't right!!”



“...Hey, what do you think would be worst for you?”



“It'd be if Miss Sara was your enemy... right?”

“...........”

“Now see here...”

Music stops.







(Wh...?!)

“W-Wait! At a time like this...?!”



“How we gonna make a vote without regrets?!”



Music stops.

(I have... nothing!)

(Now, I just have to believe in everyone...!)

“Sara...!”

“Be brave, everybody.”




(Grr...!!)



“Ahaha... Come on, let's vote already.”

“And now...”

thecluckmeme
Mar 31, 2013

I AM A FUCKING MORON



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Oh yeah, this is the character from D3 cranked to 11. he is already my favorite

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

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Sou is a complete monster holy poo poo, and he's 100% with the kidnappers considering Miley's conveniently timed interruption.

yamiaainferno
Jun 29, 2013



Sou: I can't believe everyone trusts the person who's been consistently calm and helpful over me, a total weirdo who makes everyone uncomfortable!

OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


Jeez Sou, those crazy eyes really won’t help your case

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...is Joe the Sage? Or is he just naturally trusting Sara?

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OOrochi
Jan 19, 2017


I think he’s just naturally trusting Sara. There really hasn’t been anything to make him especially distrust her.

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