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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

This game feels like the exact middle point between a Danganronpa game and a Zero Escape game.

Also if we need to vote on this I say Whatever option lets us go with Keiji. It's not that I don't trust Joe, but I think Keiji has more valuable skills and might have more insight into the situation.

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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

This feels like a logic puzzle. There has to be some arrangement where no matter if we fire a blank or a real bullet into a dummy (because let's be real, we're going to shoot a dummy first), we can deduce the pattern.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Kai seemed like a level-headed guy who would be the voice of reason (Joe being a moral center and Keiji bringing intuition and a detective nose), but this throws him into a new light.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

The game seems to want us to focus on the quartet of Joe/Keiji/Kai/Sou for now, and those four are probably going to be the people with the most scrutiny, at least at the moment.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Keiji does seem to have some degree of insight and reasoning that I would expect of a detective, but I can see why Joe would have reservations.

So I say I think he is.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

And then, of course, there's the Sage. Who knows that Sara is to be trusted and shouldn't be voted for?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

My minimal knowledge of Japanese makes me feel like "Alice" should have been localized as "Arisu" just so it sounds... you know... Japanese.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

And we still have no clue who the Sage is...

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I hate you so much, Sou.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

...is Joe the Sage? Or is he just naturally trusting Sara?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Vote Sou.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

...my heart is sinking like a goddamn rock.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

You know, that actually reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask.

Why?

As in, why are they running this death game? What's the point?

There is two possible answers in my head-I'll label the two as "Option Zero Escape" (The people running this game have a concrete objective in mind) and "Option Danganronpa" (Getting people to murder each other is fun, lol).

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Thanks, now Joe is scary. Yay.

Is Keiji going to become our new BFF? Because I'm still just a tiny bit wary of him...

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Okay, I have a theory: This whole game (not this specific trust sub-game, the whole thing, from top to bottom) is some sort of... crazy, illegal psychological experiment. See how trust breaks down. How people react to specific things. Game theory. The whole shebang.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Honestly, I think at this point we're more Zero Escape than Danganronpa.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

What did Sou have to gain from giving Joe the card? The kicks of seeing Sara lose him?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Talk to Alice.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

My (Minimal) knowledge of Goroawase (the Japanese rule of turning a long string of numbers into a phrase or vice-versa) lets me explain this.

3 = sa(n)
6 = mu
Rai is left alone.

first 8 = Ya
1 = i(chi)
second 8 = ba

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Red and black Joe hallucination is still scary to everyone, right? Right?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Gin is a good boy.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Let's help Alice.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Please! No more creepy black-and-red Joe! I can't take any more of it!

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I think Sou's downfall is the fact that he's assuming everyone around him is as cutthroat and willing to be cruel as he is.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Keiji.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

...is this a "Fission Mailed" situation?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I do remember that Ranger straight up said that, if all goes well, everyone can survive this Main Game.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I'm sorry, Doll Reko... but we need to save Gin.

Push her.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Uhhh... well, my theory about this being some sort of experiment was right, if Satou is telling the truth.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Is Safalin going to stay around?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

How does Gashu's negative emotion research fit into this?

...maybe the point of this is to turn Sara into a cold-hearted emotionless manipulator by breaking her.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

You know, I still don't get why Sou is so (ba-dum-tish) afraid of Sara for.

Is he just paranoid? Is he fundamentally mentally disturbed enough that he thinks that all people are just like him and cruel and callous?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Aww. That was sweet.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I wonder how much this would change if we had the Reko lives, Alice dies ending to 2-1.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Considering Sou was surprised by the fact that Nao grabbed it and ran, I actually don't think he's behind the Mishima AI.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I know this is kind of a "NO poo poo" thing to say, but this part of the game (and of course, the version we played in Chapter 1 Part 2) feels like a Mafia game.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Out of curiosity, are the events proceeding mostly the same on the Reko Lives path, with Reko claiming Commoner like Alice does now?

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

I'd assume using Your Time To Shine to plug a gap.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Voting for Nao seems like an early/bad ending of sorts...

But honestly, with Sou-wait, no, Shin kind of redeeming himself... Hmm...

But Kanna's... Ahhh...

...I'll wait for some other people to make convincing arguments first.

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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015

Cuz I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here
I don't belong here

Sou/Shin. The people have convinced me.

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