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Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Invalid Validation posted:

I guess the season was a little slow cause the books they’re adapting aren’t particularly good to begin with? Some book person go head and minor spoil me, is this really the end of Miller?

Miller is finally, 100% dead. He was only able to project himself into Holden's brain via that lump of protomolecule in the Roci's cargo hold. He's gone forever.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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They never specify years, or character ages, but yeah, Babylon's Ashes ends something like 8-10 years after the start of the series.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Nah, there's about 70 million people in the belt. It's exploitative, for sure, but it's like if the Netherlands was a resource colony and the rest of the (2020) world was the metropole.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Does making a space-bullet pointy affect its ballistic properties in any way? Or is the amount of energy involved so enormous that it doesn't matter?

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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It ain't zero

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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TVIV> The Expanse, Season 5: Jesus Christ, that’s really how I went through life, wasn’t it

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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She’s in prison for blowing up a ship full of people, and trying to kill Holden & company. The mod is some sort of black-market hyper-adrenaline implant that lets her wreck poo poo for a minute, before giving her a puking hangover and unconsciousness. Amos feels some sort of compassion for her, for his own reasons.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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VagueRant posted:

Is Christmas a thing in the Expanse universe?

There are 0 references to dates, months, seasons, holidays, or even birthdays in the books.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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I only just clocked that Marco's Alexander obsession includes his son's name

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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swickles posted:

There is also the fact that the solar system and even the galaxy is almost 2 dimensional in that planets are mostly in the same plane or of orbit, so once those rounds get enough height or depth, they will be out of the way of like 99% of things in our system.

Yeah, I remember in the books one of the rare occasions they visit some rocks off the plane everyone gets the creeps about being out there

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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I genuinely wouldn't have noticed the Arjun recast if it didn't get posted about a million times

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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I'm genuinely excited by the fact next season is the last one, it means they can go off the rails and do things differently from the books. I didn't hate last season, but it suffered from being such a direct adaptation of something I'd already read.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Hey guys, no spoilers or anything, but did you know that this one plot point is really important down the road!?

Kazzah
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Grand Fromage posted:

Ty has said the wrong yields are intentional because the people reporting them don't have good information. I do not think this was a good choice, but, :shrug:

They really should have put in a line where like Avasarala watches footage of the impact and goes "Man that's way more than 20 megatons, we've got to stop underestimating the belters".

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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The Protogen people had a currently-alive active-duty Martian military personnel detector, and they were just itching for an excuse to use the drat thing

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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...okay? Did that make the movie worse?

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Phanatic posted:

poo poo like Prometheus, Oven Cant, Ad Astra, these are all dumb peoples' ideas of how smart people think.

Man, I can't believe this character just did something stupid, the writers are terrible at their jobs

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Phanatic posted:

Smart people sometimes do dumb things, but no character in those films ever does a single smart thing. They do not *act* like the characters they are supposed to be. Every aspect of those films is *incoherent*, which is a thing that dumb people mistake for complexity.

If they always act dumb then they're dumb characters. What are the "characters they're supposed to be"?

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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Phanatic posted:

People. Human beings. Real human beings do not get on a spaceship to travel some unknown distance for some unknown objective. To get real human beings to even get on a boat without knowing any of that stuff, you need to press-gang them. But these people get on a loving interstellar spacecraft *when they don't know why they're getting on it*. They're not introduced to the purpose of the journey, or even to the people they're going with, until they're already in space. For that matter, if you're going to hire a bunch of expert scientists for your hugely expensive interstellar voyage, you will introduce them to each other beforehand to make sure none of them hate each other and can actually work together. You would check to see, for example, if your xenobiologist is going to poo poo his pants when he finds a dead alien skull (and hey, the same xenobiologist who was so frightened of a corpse goes and puts his face right up against an alien tentacle that is behaving in a fashion that any product of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution would interpret as "menacing."). If you are a person with some crazy theory about where life on earth came from, and you go on this long interstellar voyage, and find out that your crazy theories were correct, your response will not be to get all mopey and depressed, because instead you would feel elated and vindicated. If you are a medical tech on board this interstellar voyage, and some agitated bleeding woman in distress enters your medical bay, *you will react to this in at least some fashion* instead of completely ignoring it. If you are, for example, on a ship that is intended to colonize another planet, and you instead land on some other planet than the one you set out to colonize, and one of your party gets sick, and someone asks "Are we talking about quarantine procedures?", your answer will not be "I don't know," because quarantine procedures would be part of the loving procedures you were trained and prepared for, because nobody will put people who are too dumb to operate the fryer at KFC on an interstellar colony ship. Nobody would think a shotgun is useful protection against a xenopathogen, and enter the medical bay where a really sick person is on the basis that the shotgun will keep them from getting infected.

Every single aspect of these movies is dumb. They are *fractally* dumb. Their dumbness is self-similar at all scales. The overall plots are dumb and incoherent, the individual reactions in individual scenes are dumb and incoherent, the characters are dumb and incoherent. They are all the product of a system that fired a half a dozen scripts out of a cannon and filmed whatever scraps they were able to recover (Hell, in Covenant one of the characters says something to the effect of "We can't deploy the shuttle, it's not intended for use in deep space," while they are passing through the atmosphere of the planet and are definitely not in deep space) . The only redeeming aspect of any of them is that people got paid for them and were able to provide food for their families.

I dunno man, I feel like you're judging this against your ideal notion of a scientific expedition, when it's really more like a bunch of cranks hired by some rich guy. Like imagine the sort of person who would take elon musk up on his offer to live in a box for the rest of their lives. The biologist gets attacked by an alien; the map guy gets lost; the guy who wants to live forever gets instantly killed by god. The movie is not an attempt to show hyper-rational people working together to beat the odds, like some 50s sci-fi monster movie. It's proud dumbasses getting owned ironically.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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I can think of a couple other things we could do that would be better than that.

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Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

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tokin opposition posted:

100+ years on Basic, playing Space Minecraft and watching hyper porn, sounds like a good life idk what the earthers are whining about

You have to play Space Minecraft in the cloud, there's like a 0.5s input delay

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