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Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Nail Rat posted:

That seems like a decent approximation except I still can't find a way to rationalize his "thick belly" described so often seeing as how they keep saying he's not fat. :lol: at the RPG art located here though, dude is hideous if this is accurate https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Amos_Burton_(Books)

I thought of him as being built like an NFL lineman. A lot of those guys have chonk bellies, but there's not a lot of other flab on them, and they're strong as hell. I wouldn't normally call one "fat" because the word has too many other associations.

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Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Best part of the show is how much Miller and Holden dislike each other as soon as they meet. It's not even like they have vastly different goals, they just think the other is a dick

And they're both right!

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I think a desire to punish someone you deeply believe to be evil is different from a desire to inflict pain for its own sake.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

What's Mark Shepard doing these days? He's become a genre legend.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I think he's important but I also think that after five seasons, a new actor would be so jarring that killing the character would be better.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

PeterWeller posted:

Velocity and vector should be supreme. Electronic Warfare needs to be a big part of defense. Make it a game about planning in advance. Long range is all about torpedo salvoes and PDCs used defensively. Rail guns come online at medium ranges. At close range, you can use PDCs offensively.

Velocity is part of vector.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

DogsInSpace! posted:

“How can you shoot women and children?”
“Easy. You just don’t lead em as much.”

And still alt right boomers like to list Apocalypse Now as a favourite movie. <sigh>


As a practicing pedant, I must point out that the lines you quoted are from Full Metal Jacket, not Apocalypse Now.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Sash! posted:

That's why I love that moment in The Hunt for Red October with the briefing being all "this is a Typhoon class submarine. It displaces more than a WW2 aircraft carrier" and the one old Admiral has this expression that is "...gently caress."

I just assume that I went back in time with an Arleigh Burke, I could annihilate the entire German fleet at Jutland without even getting my paint scratched.

You got me trying to figure out what's possible with the typical Burke loadout against dreadnought and superdreadnought battleships. I can't find enough detail on the attack profile for modern Standard missiles would do against heavily armored ships. I suspect the experience of a beyond-visual-range attack by guided missiles would scare the poo poo out of the High Seas Fleet and send them back to port, but I'm not at all sure you'd sink any of the battleships or battlecruisers. You need either heavier missiles or something that's going to attack deck armor to sink the big ships.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Phanatic posted:

Big modern anti-ship missiles, like the kind the Soviets developed to destroy aircraft carriers, yes, they're coming in with more mass and kinetic energy than the rounds BBs were armored against, and that's even before you consider the big fuckoff warheads on them. But that is not the sort of thing carried by a modern guided missile destroyer. At best, you're talking a few Harpoons, which aren't going to do much to an armored belt. The vast majority of their loadouts are anti-aircraft missiles with maybe 100lbs of so of explosive fill. They are not going to punch through any armor on a battleship.

Now, battleships were not armored everywhere, and bombarding one with 92 VLS cell's worth of SM2s will very probably scrub off all the comms gear and whatever radars are sitting out, but the deck armor, the belt, the turrets, the 17" or so of armor on the conning tower? The missiles carried by a modern destroyer aren't going to do anything against that other than mar the paint.

The second paragraph is the only one I disagree with. Since Sash! specified Jutland, they'd be old ships with minimal superstructure and weak deck armor, since the threat was assumed to be broadside gunnery. If the Standard in anti-ship mode has a top attack profile, they might be able to penetrate and cause unholy destruction below decks. If they're hitting side armor on big ships, they might do damage via shock effects, but they're not going to sink a dreadnought.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

feedmegin posted:

You mean slightly less obsolete, given there were still a few around in the 80s. No, the Kirovs don't count as a battlecruiser.

Well you see Kirov is not armored to survive a hit from her own weapons therefore

Actually this is actually a sillier derail then the original derail about whether a Burke could destroy the High Seas Fleet, since any weirdness in the Expanse's labeling of ship classes can and would be swept away in a great cloud of "the names for space ship classes developed centuries from now were influenced by, but do not correspond to, named used by 19th, 20th, or 21st century wet navies.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Mister Speaker posted:

Meh. Next thing I know you'll be trying to tell me Rush isn't the greatest band of all time, like those idiots in the Toronto thread.

It's good when that happens, because you find out early who the cretins are.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

As showrunners, we know many of you are very confused about the death and return of Starbuck, and we'd like to make it clear to all of you that we don't know either.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

The novelization of The Gun on Ice Planet Zero is so bizarrely full of gravitas that it feels like an artifact from a parallel universe where BSG(1979) was literature.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I haven't heard of anyone hearing that metric, ordering troops to get their stats up, and being shocked that it resulted in troops just going around shooting people. I just feel certain it happened somewhere.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Jows posted:

Making steel in orbit would require overcoming massive technological problems. Steelmaking relies a lot on gravity to drive even the most basic processes involved. E.g., keeping the 3200F pool of liquid metal where you want it rather than floating out of containment. Also impurity differentiation - slag floats to the top of the steel, and you need gravity to drive buoyancy.

Not saying the problems are insurmountable - but very difficult. If the answer is a spin station, then why are you making steel in orbit in the first place?

How do you control the heat of that 3200F pool while maintaining survivable temperatures in the human-inhabited parts of the station? I've always assumed you'd need a least a middle-sized asteroid as a heat sink.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Yeah, I still feel like there's a strong "all protagonists are amazing at their jobs because they're reached 19th level" energy to the overall concept.

I didn't blink at Bobbi being useful on Roci, though. It's a small ship optimized for power projection in a universe where boarding actions are important. Using a small group of elite specialists trained in multiple roles makes sense in that setting.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I often low-grade rant about shows casting actors who look nothing alike but play blood relatives. I really appreciate that the actor playing Filip looks like he absolutely could be Naomi and Marco's kid.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

bou posted:

That's it. You essentially have to end the show when Chrisjen fuckin' Avasarala is out-politicked by good boy James Holden.

It cracked me up because if the foul-mouthed queen of my heart has a blind spot at all, it's imagining someone who just isn't interested in power. I'm sure she expected Holden to run the TU like his usual good-hearted idiot self and get outplayed by Earth and Mars every time. She could not imagine someone handed a seat at the table walking away on day one.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

The Epstein drive doesn't use reaction mass. Non-Epstein ships use water for reaction mass. I remember references in the books to small non-Epstein-equipped ships "running teakettle" or something like that. The Epstein drive is a worldbuilding contrivance that is deliberately not grounded on any particular propulsion technology, because if it was, they'd have to keep BSing more science about it.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Also IIRC they put remounted battleship turrets on the Orion spaceship and modified shuttle orbiters into parasite fighting craft. It's insane but sometimes you only have one chance to free the earth.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

I said come in! posted:

Dawes was such a cringy dork. I liked him a lot. Sad he wasnt on the show more, but the actor ended up leaving for the vastly inferior tv adaptation The Foundation.

I've been rewatching season one and Dawes is by far my favorite character. He's a true believer in episodes where everyone else is stumbling around wondering what the hell is going on, and that inner certainty plus Harris' performance gives him tremendous presence.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Elapsed time for a given distance varies with the square root of acceleration, so it's most efficient to use as little as it takes to get you there on time.

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Never send an idealist to do a cynic's job.

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Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006

Strait's performance as Holden is almost always the weak link in the show. Sending out book Holden as a way to prove that the UN tried to do the right thing was plausible. Sending out show Holden to get anything of import done just seems stupid.

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