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Yeah, Tight Deadline is free points at lower heat levels and is exponentially more punishing the more enemy-modifying settings you turn on. At 32 Heat even 9 minutes can be really hard for some weapons, although some like Eris Rail or Excalibur care about it less due to damage output or ability to take risks. TD2 is gonna be making every other modifier you added that much worse and I'd trade for it out for anything else.
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One strategy that I used for my 32 heat clear was to turn off all healing, but take stubborn defiance and stack max HP at the expense of pretty much everything else. The revive you get from stubborn defiance will still heal you for 30% of your max HP even with all other sources of healing negated. This let me turn off increased enemy damage. I found this easier than trying to split the difference by giving myself only half healing but also giving my enemies significantly more damage. I even ended up running the Cerberus Collar as my trinket in the service of more HP, which is a trinket I (and most folks) tend to discard after early runs once you have the max HP from the mirror talent.
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Konstantin posted:What is a decent pact loadout for 32 heat? I can clear 20ish heat every time, but 32 is something else entirely. Here is what I usually try:  This is a fun combination with a high damage weapon like the Eris Rail ... Or the Eris Rail that gets the Zeus legendary in the final shop in Tartarus  Lost a DD fighting Asterius, because he started his charge attack just before he went invincible for the phase transition, and I didn't realise that would still damage you if he hit you.  Absolutely obscene run in the end, having gotten Hermes's keepsake trigger on every possible room from Asphodel onwards and the +20% Dodge Hermes boon I was moving very fast and was very hard to hit. [edit] In retrospect removing the -Heal and putting one point into Damage Control would have been much better, but I forgot I hadn't already put one in MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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I wish there was some way you could respec your titan blood. I have most of the weapons partially upgraded, and in retrospect I wish I had focused more.
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Ariong posted:I wish there was some way you could respec your titan blood. I have most of the weapons partially upgraded, and in retrospect I wish I had focused more. You can buy 1 Blood for 1 Ambrosia at the broker, and you need waaaayy less Ambrosia than you do Blood, so this comes in handy. I estimate I probably traded in at least 15-20 Ambrosia for Blood across ~150 runs. The real answer, though... just keep playing. The game throws Blood at you with every new heat for each weapon, and the more you play, the more you end up with piles of it, much more than you need to max every weapon. The trickiest part comes in the "mid period," which for me was runs like 60-100, where I really started to figure out the game mechanics and how to build, and I wanted as much Blood as possible to upgrade the aspects I liked. During this 40-ish run period is when I would both save up 1200 gold almost every single run in case I could buy an extra Blood at Styx and did lots of Ambrosia/Blood trading when necessary to pump up aspects I knew I really liked. Also there are a couple mirror pact/reward things that offer lots of Blood — iirc there are like 3 or 4 that offer between 10-20 Blood as rewards. Prioritize those if you're feeling thirsty.
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I think this game gave me tendinitis. 10/10
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Elman posted:I think this game gave me tendinitis. Unironically, a tendency towards tendonitis is why I pretty much exclusively play with the gun and the fists
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Hades wasn't why I bought compression gloves (I think that was Hollow Knight) but it was why I dug them out of the storage closet.
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you aren't ready for heat 32 until you break out the wrist immobilizer
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Beat Dad on EM4 finally  That was a rough one. This unrelated run, on the other hand, was NOT a rough one: I hadn't really done anything with Excalibur aspect but this was a giggle. I was taking virtually no damage at all from Dad at the end and was sitting in his face and whapping him with my giant glowy baseball bat. Pretty cool that there's a lot to explore in the game yet and I've already got over a hundred hours into it.
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So I know that it's been debated in this thread about who Skelly's boss is, but it's definitely Hermes.. I had a conversation where they basically said I needed to keep my mouth shut about it or else Hades was going to do something about it.
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Why would it be debated? Eventually the game straight up tells you: It's Charon. He's paying Skelly and Hermes. They can only speculate on his motivations, saying he wanted to resolve the issues between the underworld and Olympus. I think Charon, who does a lot of traveling to the mortal world, noticed that Eternal Winter is a very bad thing for them.
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Why would it be debated? Eventually the game straight up tells you: Lol, so the capitalist saves the world?
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the calculus changes when you're immortal and can't just die before all the short-term decision making catches up to you, maybe, I dunno
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Why would it be debated? Eventually the game straight up tells you: Well poo poo. Guess I have more dialog to find. I feel vindicated at least because they were my first guess when I first started.
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Am I doing something wrong or have I just had some poo poo luck lately? I keep only seeing one maybe two boons from gods I want when I'm making runs. An example, I was going to do a Dionysus run with Chiron and I started with his keepsake to get the special and then didn't see another boon from him at all for the rest of the run. This happened on the two runs prior with Zeus as well. I keep trying to start paths and then the game just never gives me another boon from that god or gives it to me so late for it not to matter anymore. I'm sure it's just luck but goddamn is that frustrating.
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ChaosReaper posted:Am I doing something wrong or have I just had some poo poo luck lately? I keep only seeing one maybe two boons from gods I want when I'm making runs. An example, I was going to do a Dionysus run with Chiron and I started with his keepsake to get the special and then didn't see another boon from him at all for the rest of the run. This happened on the two runs prior with Zeus as well. I keep trying to start paths and then the game just never gives me another boon from that god or gives it to me so late for it not to matter anymore. I'm sure it's just luck but goddamn is that frustrating. Sometimes you just get junk. Being able to reroll Boons can help alleviate that, but it's the nature of roguelikes that every once in a while the game kinda fucks you.
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ChaosReaper posted:Am I doing something wrong or have I just had some poo poo luck lately? I keep only seeing one maybe two boons from gods I want when I'm making runs. An example, I was going to do a Dionysus run with Chiron and I started with his keepsake to get the special and then didn't see another boon from him at all for the rest of the run. This happened on the two runs prior with Zeus as well. I keep trying to start paths and then the game just never gives me another boon from that god or gives it to me so late for it not to matter anymore. I'm sure it's just luck but goddamn is that frustrating. I just had a run kind of like this, it's frustrating as hell. None of my boons synergized with Stygius at all and I kept getting coin and poms as golden room rewards. I will say make sure you have the thing in the mirror enabled that increases your chance for golden room rewards (rather than the alternative which increases boon rarity), as after I beat the game a few times I felt the number of boons I would encounter on a given run seemed to drop significantly. I would sometimes make it out of elysium missing a cast or something as a result, until I found that option.
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Bananasaurus Rex posted:Yeah this happens from time to time. Equip chaos shield and ares keepsake thinking I'm gonna make a sick doom build! Then get doom on special and never see Ares again. Almost ran out of time on 9 minute tight deadline my damage was so bad. I just had this exact same thing happen. I put on Ares to start and got his special then never saw him again. Put on Aphrodite for the next floor and saw her once before getting Zeus, Demeter, and Poseidon the rest of the run.
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I have done over 200 runs and 'practiced' the lyre at least 150 times but I'm yet to fulfill 'Gift of Song'. Is there more to it than practicing?
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geese posted:I have done over 200 runs and 'practiced' the lyre at least 150 times but I'm yet to fulfill 'Gift of Song'. Is there more to it than practicing? There's like 4 phases that are audibly different and you'll have to chat with Orpheus a couple of times about learning to play.
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geese posted:I have done over 200 runs and 'practiced' the lyre at least 150 times but I'm yet to fulfill 'Gift of Song'. Is there more to it than practicing? Doesn't have to be done over different runs. Stand by it and play it lots until it changes pattern. Chat with Orpheus.
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Warmachine posted:I'd like to actually do the math on an ares/artemis/posiedon cast build vs some of the optimal weapon DPS builds. I suspect it's pretty close if not in ares cast's favor if you can get all the legendaries and duos you need. The problem is how legendary/duo dependent it is: you need Vicious Cycle, Hunting Blades, Mirage Shot, and Fully Loaded to get the full effect. But that works out to 5 full damage blade rifts and 5 30% blade rifts all ramping up on one enemy.   Another thing I've realized is Stygian Soul is kinda great for trippy shot and crystal beam. Crystal clarity is insane with support shot. You will constantly emanate homing arrows as long as the crystal cast is up and beaming something. As good as crystal cast can be, I file it under "good with the right other boons but not by itself." Like blade dash can be great with black hole (haha get hosed flamewheels) but it's more consistent to take that common athena/poseidon dash which are quality dashes by themselves.
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Aphrodash is underrated imo
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I've lately really gotten attached to BIG DAMAGE CASTS, but they're definitely really chancy to build for and it's more likely than not that I'll get screwed out of some Duo or another that I really needed. Some runs it feels like I'm just trying to mainline Artemis and Hermes all the time.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Aphrodash is underrated imo Pashdash is great for setting up PS (as are all the debuff dashes), it's not really in the ballpark of Divine Dash
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Mar 4, 2021 22:34
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Crystal cast triggers multiple times for support fire???
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Spikes32 posted:Crystal cast triggers multiple times for support fire??? it damages every .2 seconds I think (maybe .5?) so yeah also i am starting to close in on 20 heat runs with every weapon. spear is lagging behind the others, not because i don't do well with it but because i always go with whatever weapon is glowing and for some reason my spear doesn't like to glow. i just cleared 15 heat with Guan Yu and those who say Guan Yu is no good at higher heats are COWARDS.
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Spikes32 posted:Crystal cast triggers multiple times for support fire??? Zeus aspect of the shield does too every time it hits which is... often.
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I’m 35~ runs into the game and have managed to get to Hades 2x now. Even killed him once which was like, super super cool to find out he regens unlike every other boss in the game. This game rocks Also is it generally a bad idea to do more of those little Satyr side caves than necessary? I’ve died like 3-4 times in there just trying to farm an extra boon or heart... those poison fuckers are awful
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Its very rarely worth going in further than needed in satyr caves. Only reason i could think of is youre missing a few pennies to buy something or want to pray to rng gods for some boon combo.
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It is definitely not optimal, but I want to state for the record that Zagreus Rail, plus the ammo/accuracy hammer, plus the bouncing bullet hammer, plus Zeus attack is really funny.
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Finally got my 32 heat! Although the build wasn't much to write home about, really, and was with Eris, but its something: The long lived Athena call along with some call gauge boosting stuff is what really put me over the top I think. Also taking off Forced Overtime helped a whole hell of a lot.
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Is the Eris aspect good, I like the zag with max ammo too much to try it
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yes, eris wrecks house. honestly the zag aspect of the rail is my least favorite
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World War Mammories posted:yes, eris wrecks house. honestly the zag aspect of the rail is my least favorite I like being able to go full auto for a while but that's a bit undercut by, say, Delta Chamber
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Is the Eris aspect good, I like the zag with max ammo too much to try it Yeah, Eris aspect is real good. It's probably one of the few aspects that will function even in higher heats regardless of boons or hammer upgrades- you lose an Eris run it's probably because you went too ham too fast.
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A couple of people have mentioned getting a reward for maxing out the Zagreus Sword. Is that a prophecy that you have to first unlock or is it just something you can do whenever?
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