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CJacobs posted:Sword's got versatility. It's not especially good at anything but it's also not especially bad. The main combo is great for stacking DOTs because you can turn the 3 hit into a 4 hit with the dash attack, and the AOE on the special is affected by any boon in that slot. The thrust at the end of the main combo also does a huge shove on enemies that can be pushed around (and Asterius). Picked this game up yesterday and my best run so far was a Daedalus Hammer to upgrade the Sword special attack, then the Poseidon special attack boon that increased knockback, then another Poseidon boon that I think added a DOT effect to your special, and just spamming that. So  Game's very fun but I need to not fall into the trap that I fell into on Bastion, where the game puts a bunch of weapons in front of me and I just stick with the default weapon unless forced to switch.
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ApplesandOranges posted:The game incentives you to switch around by giving a different weapon each run a bonus to Darkness gained. Oh it does? I haven't unlocked any of the other weapons yet, I'll have to save some keys for those. Thanks.
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Jan 5, 2021 03:44
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Woo beat the Hydra on my first encounter with it  Can't wait to follow that run up by face-planting in Tartarus when I forget that I'm using the Bow instead of the Sword.
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Jan 5, 2021 05:35
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Just unlocked the Spear, seems pretty good! When people talk about doing builds focused around a specific God or two, what's the reasoning behind that? I get that each God has a theme for all of their boons, but while they have similar effects they don't feel like they're really complementary at first glance, at least on paper. As far as I can tell there isn't, for example, a Zeus boon that buffs all of your Lightning damage, something that would be better the more Zeus boons you picked up.
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Jan 7, 2021 06:38
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Tetrabor posted:Some starter tips: These are good to know, thanks for this and also thanks to everyone who answered my question about focusing on one or two gods per run.
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Jan 7, 2021 21:10
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Early on, should I just be rolling with whatever weapon has the 20% Darkness bonus each time in order to build up Mirror bonuses more quickly?
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Jan 11, 2021 05:03
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Is there something that I need to do to get Demeter to start showing up on runs? I'm one run 8 or 9 and haven't seen any of her boons.
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Jan 12, 2021 06:02
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:I dont know how many runs it was until I figured out that your asset colliding with enemy assets doesn't actually do any damage unless they're in the right part of their attack animation. I dont know why I spent so long assuming it was like a sonic game where just brushing past an enemy would kill me but I did This was my big A-ha moment with the Hydra last night, that you can dash through its heads and necks so long as you're not dashing through their attack hit boxes. Definitely gives you more space in that cramped arena.
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Speaking of Asterius, is there a trick for getting him to collide with a solid object? He seems to have increased maneuverability when it comes to Pillars, do I just need to lure him into a wall?
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Jan 13, 2021 06:23
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Me last night, standing in front of Tartarus boss door: OK, quick Meg fight and I can go to bed. Me immediately after walking through said door: huh, that's not Meg. Didn't die but came way closer than I care to admit!
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Jan 14, 2021 18:43
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Dyz posted:Does Tis always appear before Alecto? I have no idea who Tis is but I sure know who Alecto is now so I'm gonna say...no?
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Jan 14, 2021 19:51
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If I'm comfortable taking the health hit at that given moment, should I always be going through Chaos Gates when they appear? My basic evaluation for them up to this point has been "will I have > 50% health when I leave Chaos's realm?" Or am I better off taking a regular door out of a room if it has a reward that syncs with my current build?
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Jan 15, 2021 00:02
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I keep seeing people talk about fishing and I have no idea how you unlock it. I'm 10 runs in and my farthest run is the Elysium boss, is this something that I get after my first clear or something?
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Jan 15, 2021 22:45
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Geemer posted:You get it from the contractor. MrL_JaKiri posted:It costs I want to say a diamond from the house contractor? Ah yeah, the only thing I've been able to spend diamonds on so far is freeing Orpheus. Darn, guess I need to play this game some more!
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Jan 16, 2021 06:41
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After three runs ended by Asterius I finally broke that streak by dying before the Elysium boss in a really stupid way. What's the right way to use the God trinkets? I started a run with some trinket but got two Zeus boons in Tartarus, so I decided to switch to Zeus's trinket for Asphodel and lean into the build. Didn't see a Zeus boon for a few rooms but when I did one of my options was his Legendary boon (which kicked rear end). But it feels like it would have been more efficient to start the run with a trinket like that instead?
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Jan 18, 2021 05:42
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eke out posted:Sounds like you pretty much have it figured out. Weird thing though, once I put it on the next boon that I found was from Hermes, with the Zeus boon coming after that. But I also get the impression that the Hermes boons are a little different from the other gods.
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Jan 18, 2021 16:26
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Finally trying out Zeus Attack + Rail for the first time, y'all weren't kidding about it. Zeus Attack + Fists the run before felt really good too even though I lost the run in a really boneheaded way. Picked up a Rail Hammer with the following choices: Ricochet Fire (Attack bounces to 1 extra enemy) Piercing Fire (Attack pierces enemies, 50% more damage to Armor) Delta Chamber (Attack is a three-round burst, no need to reload) I sat there for a minute until I took Piercing Fire because Armor annoys the hell out of me, but honestly they all sounded good. What would you have taken?
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Jan 19, 2021 05:37
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Make sure to use keys to unlock mirror talents ASAP, and eventually you will get the option to swap talents for alternate modes. For a game that is incredibly good about signposting most things, those options are easily missed (the buttons will appear on the left side of the mirror menu) I'll second this, it took me a long time to notice the talent swap buttons on the mirror.
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Jan 19, 2021 16:12
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Finally got out of Elysium And then died two encounters later but who cares. Now I can spend Titan Blood too! Better to use it evenly among all the weapons while I'm still in the part of the game where I'm taking the +20% Darkness weapon on each run, or dump it all into whatever I think will give me the best chance at a Clear?
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Jan 19, 2021 23:18
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Mr. Lobe posted:Look at the weapon bonuses and invest in bonuses you think you'd actually benefit from. Some of them never appealed to me personally. Looking at you, every shield special bonus Each weapon only has its Aspect of Zagreus available, even though two others are listed. Do I have to buy the first one to unlock the others?
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Jan 20, 2021 00:12
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You can unlock them as soon as you unlock the Rail (the final weapon) Oh I figured it out, the little tab in the Aspect menu is how you spend Blood, not by confirming on the larger text box. Thanks.
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Jan 20, 2021 02:54
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Yo the Chiron Bow whips, I don't think I have a particularly efficient setup but I somehow walked into Styx with 90% health and both of my Death Defiances intact. Getting a Hammer for extra Special arrows probably has something to do with that. I can do this. I can do this.
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Jan 20, 2021 06:44
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Ahhhhhhh of course it's a two-phase boss battle  So close to my first clear, Styx is legit nerve-wracking.
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Jan 20, 2021 20:28
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Escobarbarian posted:lmao I remember this feeling. my first time against Hades I was like “gently caress yes!!!!!.....oh wait that’s not gonna be it is it” Yeah, he felt a little too easy at first. Oh well. It felt like a drat good build at least, Chiron Bow with a bunch of Artemis and Poseidon and a bit of Aphrodite. I even got two duo boons right before the final fight but they weren't quite enough. Is there a different approach to setting up a build for "let's see how far I can get and how much stuff I can collect" vs "OK, this time I'm definitely getting out"? Is it in the initial pre-run setup, or in dodging rooms with crafting/unlock material rewards as much as possible?
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Escobarbarian posted:Definitely agree with you there. It’s easier to make use of calls etc when he isn’t constantly disappearing. Plus you can hug your dad to negate the lasers Wait what Gonna have to try that next time, I already have a Sword run up to Styx after losing that Bow run earlier.
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AlternateNu posted:Mods! Can't we make these gangtags? Only if we can get this thread the No You Shut The gently caress Up Dad tag from E/N. I don't actually know if Hades does a face turn once you beat the game because I've lost the final encounter twice today
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Woof, just beat Elysium with 4 Health and Strong Drink among my boons. That was nerve-wracking, hopefully saving on that Death Defiance will put me over the edge this time.
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Tom Tucker posted:The gun just doesn’t work for my style it seems. Ah well more practice! Gun works really well with anything that procs per hit or with status effects that stack. Zeus and Dionysus on regular attack really jacks up your DPS, and I like any Artemis boons that give you extra critical hit %. E: ffffffffff three runs in a row now ended by the final boss  Took your advice to stick close to him when doing the lasers in part 2, but didn't realize that he starts doing 360 lasers at low health. Do I just hide behind a pillar and cross my fingers when that happens?Picked up that third Death Defiance though, maybe that's what I need? C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Sanctum posted:The gun is good because artemis' support fire is completely overpowered with the gun, rapid firing those homing arrows everywhere. Don't need to get some multi-boon synergy, just that one boon. I've noticed support fire doesn't activate multiple times for the spinning shield or blade boons, it's just one arrow per enemy hit on cast/special. But for the rail you get an arrow for every bullet that hits an enemy. I was doing a Rail run and picked up Support Fire in Styx, can confirm it was rad as hell with the Rail. Maybe next time I do a Rail run I should try Dio + Artemis for better single-enemy DPS, I keep doing Zeus with the Rail which is great for normal rooms but less good on bosses.
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Finally got that first clear Love 2 stack Hangover How many clears do you need in order to see credits? I thought I heard that you get the credits sequence twice?
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The answer to literally every question in this game is "Do another run and give everyone Nectar" Yeah I haven't given everyone a first shot of Nectar yet. I'm taking it every time it shows up as a room reward but it feels kind of rare. Looking at the remaining slots on my Charm locker, you can definitely give Nectar and Ambrosia to Persephone, right?
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Doomykins posted:Yeah and Persephone yields one of the best keepsakes in the game imo. Do you need to talk to them a certain number of times before that option becomes available? I just had my second convo with them and I didn't see an option to give the Nectar that I had. Then again I know that the button prompts can sometimes be a tad finicky. E: Second clear in a row too I thought I saw someone badmouthing the Achilles Spear earlier but it was pretty sweet on this run. Throw spear, bull rush to spear, backstab victim of initial spear was good on regular enemies and amazing on bosses. Had Ares and Aphrodite as my special and attack boons and took any boon that extended their status effect durations to really lean on Privileged Status.
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Sanctum posted:I tried the chiron bow with drunken flourish as someone suggested and was surprised how fast hades died. Felt like I wasn't doing any damage and then the fight ended. Chiron Bow with Dio Attack + Special was my very first clear. Plus the Hammer upgrade that gives you more arrows per Special, it was pretty rad.
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What are the pro strats for the Shield? I finally tried it for the first time after 20 runs and a couple of clears, I managed to get halfway through the final boss with it but I felt like I did so in spite of my weapon choice. The only attack that felt good was the bull rush, but even that didn't do as much damage as I would have liked and I would sometimes end up in an awkward spot after rushing. I also didn't realized that the regular attack has a bunch of knockback, should I be looking for Poseidon boons with this weapon?
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Dionysus is good on the Rail's normal attack, right? That's my current Darkness bonus weapon and I'm thinking of running Dio + Rail since Hangover was so good on the Chiron Bow's special for me previously.Finicums Wake posted:here's how i cleared 32 heat w/ shield: start with aspect of chaos (buffs your special after bull rush), zeus keepsake (so you can upgrade your special with your first boon), and the skelly companion if you have it. Thanks. I was surprised at how the Shield could block seemingly every attack so long as it was coming at you head on. Even the lasers on the final boss!
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Psycho Landlord posted:You want Zeus. I was advised of this earlier in the thread, tried it , and it was loving incredible. I've done Zeus on Rail attack once or twice and it's really good against mobs but feels less good against bosses. My thinking with Dio is that it's probably still good against mobs, especially with a decent Special or Cast, but way better on bosses by keeping them poisoned all the time.
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Garrand posted:Yeah, I might be wrong but the lightning attack doesn't really scale with anything. Dio you can duo with ares or aphrodite for either faster ticks or more max stacks (I had a really nice run where I got both). I've definitely had more successful completions with Dionysus than with Zeus attack if I haven't picked up a call or cast that will carry me. Even Ares, getting the stacking doom and doom + weak for repeated ticks as well although that does require getting a few more required boons for that setup. I did Spear with Aphro Attack + Ares special on my last clear, I took the boon that makes Doom deal more damage but take longer to activate to really milk Privileged Status. Highly recommended, even if I don't like Ares boons that much.
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Dio rail update: got pretty dang close to my first deathless clear, even for what I thought ended up as a sub-optimal build. Put Dio on Attack but couldn't find a status-creating boon for my Special, and ended up settling for Demeter on Dash to at least get enemies with Chill. Build still rocked in the moment and it melted each boss.
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Impending Doom (Doom does more damage but takes longer to trigger) is fun for Privileged Status. My first Spear clear was Achilles Spear + Doom Special + Weakness Attack so I would just go Throw Spear Bullrush through target Backstab target until they turn around Repeat I threw it together in the moment and it probably could have been even better with something like Dio Attack.
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TIL that there are no i-frames on the Sword special, at least not without some Hammer upgrade that I have yet to see. What a wet fart of a run, I was so excited to get Poseidon Special for some crowd control but I may have doomed myself by taking a "slower attack that deals more damage" Hammer in the very first room. Oh well! When I got back I unlocked the Spear's Hidden Aspect but I'm not entirely sure what the trigger was  I'll take it though.
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