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Tetrabor posted:Poseidon absolutely slaps against bosses for melee builds, Tidal Dash + Wave Pounding means you're hitting big daddy Hades for an absolute minimum of 42 damage every time you dash next to him. Pair that with extra dashes from Hermes and a few Poms and you'll melt anything in melee range. I used to like ares cast but increasingly I'm favoring artemis / zeus / poseidon casts because they require no aiming and stick in enemies for the bonus damage.
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The gun is good because artemis' support fire is completely overpowered with the gun, rapid firing those homing arrows everywhere. Don't need to get some multi-boon synergy, just that one boon. I've noticed support fire doesn't activate multiple times for the spinning shield or blade boons, it's just one arrow per enemy hit on cast/special. But for the rail you get an arrow for every bullet that hits an enemy. Does anyone else prioritize hyper sprint for Sanctum fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Jan 22, 2021 06:10
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This is the hardest decision I've had to make in my entire life: I just finished a fist run with 70% dodge. 15% dodge fists + 30% dodge plume + 25% dodge epic hermes mused into a legendary. I had a lotta health and the only thing that was a problem was, as always, the fuckin' poison rats with only fists.
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Jan 23, 2021 10:04
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Mr. Lobe posted:If you don't have the dash Athena would be a no brainer for me I went with poseidon and got the epic flood cast and it was probably the best outcome.
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Jan 23, 2021 10:20
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I tried the chiron bow with drunken flourish as someone suggested and was surprised how fast hades died. Felt like I wasn't doing any damage and then the fight ended. Speaking of dionysus, guess you can 'empty' the pool of possible boons leading to: 
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Jan 24, 2021 01:19
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Hello Sailor posted:Ares's dash works pretty well if you can predict where the enemies are going to stand. Unless there's a heat setting I haven't seen yet, enemy AI doesn't make any sort of attempt to avoid or exit the damage field. I like ares' special doom for regular sword and regular shield runs where I have attack-based hyperion buffs. Meaning I'm using my special for AOE sprinkle damage which I can periodically throw down. Doom is perfect for that but it's such a niche roll.
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Jan 27, 2021 05:53
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Does choosing one god first at Trial of the Gods increase their chance of continuing to show up? Had a cursed run. Started with the zeus keepsake, my 2nd boon was aphrodite. I took a passive boon, and just kept getting aphrodite from there. Aphrodite after aphrodite, to the point I depleted the aphrodite boon pool and she would only offer her cast or to replace my active boons. Then I reached the styx and hey sweet 3 aphrodites.  Did I bring this upon myself by choosing aphrodite over dionysus on a double-boon room? I had a dash reduction curse and really didn't want to fight aphrodite at the time. Turns out the real curse was aphrodite's favor. If I had to choose between an epic aphrodite cast enhanced w/ sweet kiss and nothing, I would choose nothing.
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Jan 28, 2021 01:15
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Still haven't gotten to EM4, but I have a bit of a streak going on. Looking forward to ending it.
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Jan 30, 2021 07:36
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I have another existential crisis of 3 really good choices. What should I do Leaning towards double boons but I'll decide tomorrow pending a hearing
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Jan 30, 2021 08:51
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The charon option to remove exploding chariots is like a threat. "Pay this money or you will get 20 exploding flamewheels in the next encounter(s)" Sometimes I regret not paying up.
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Jan 31, 2021 00:16
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Does chain skewer for the spear make the special deal regular damage + hit 7 additional foes @ 30% base dmg, or does it make all special attacks deal 30% base? Like are you dealing 30% dmg on single targets if you take that hyperion hammer option, or does it mean you hit many additional enemies with no downside whatsoever?
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Feb 2, 2021 06:06
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Spear's chain skewer is my top hammer pick even if I have a good attack hammer boon already. At least for most special boons I would prioritize chain skewer over anything else. It does screw up the natural backstab you get on immediate spear return I guess. Even for aphrodite or athena specials where it's really only a dmg bonus I think it's pretty good. Mainly I'm wondering how it works individually so I know how worried to be when I only have my special and have to fight a boss/mini-boss with chain skewer.
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Feb 2, 2021 07:11
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Just had a run with 4 chaos gates. I got a chaos gate while still cursed, which meant my next encounter had 2 curses. Not a big deal when you already had two really good chaos boons locked in. I didn't know that was possible.
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Feb 3, 2021 08:46
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I had a crazy knockback Chiron bow run where my seeking special would knock enemies back faster than the special would seek, which meant enemies would get knocked into a wall and then repeatedly knocked into the wall by the seeking shots catching up with them. And breaking wave would activate each time they were knocked into the wall. I was worried taking the second wave legendary would screw me by knocking enemies away faster than the special could seek but that turned out to be an entirely good thing. Thanks Poseidon  All heroic slots  The Kingfish posted:Lmao what the gently caress. I was all psyched up to fight Hades and he just let me through cause I asked nicely.  v
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Feb 6, 2021 03:47
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I just had a rare rare crop roll itself into a common rare crop.  That's pretty funny actually. I only had 1 boon when I picked it up so the 2 boons it affected were itself and my one other boon, but it actually made itself common. I wonder if it will upgrade itself I guess I'll find out. e: It does not. Sanctum fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Feb 7, 2021 |
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Feb 7, 2021 07:38
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Just tried EM4. I was having a pretty good zeus shield run so it was a pretty easy fight! But I can see how EM4 could be a nightmare on weaker runs. 4 Heat is 4 Heat though.
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Feb 12, 2021 06:18
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I'm still learning what boons to take and to avoid for each weapon, which seems to be a major part of the tilting the difficulty. Like knowing not to take that epic poseidon special for the default shield, holding out for a zeus/dionysus/ares special instead. What boons do y'all use for fists? I was having a good run with zeus attack, but then I got the +50% dash-strike hammer and a +80% dash-strike chaos boon so I swapped zeus attack for demeter because she'll scale with the attack damage on dash-strikes. And then I got a lot weaker.  I tried taking artic blast and of course that made everything much worse, even with fast-attacking chill fists. I really can't think of any situation where I'd want to clear 10 stacks of chill for a small amount of damage. File that alongside blizzard shot as a boon so bad I wouldn't take it even to sell it.
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Feb 13, 2021 23:00
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AlternateNu posted:My favorite special boon for Chiron bow is Poseidon. It's great for wall slamming the poo poo out of dudes. And if you get the push-back bonus vs. bosses, a fully upgraded bow can even slam Hades.
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Feb 14, 2021 06:52
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I feel like the bow and spear depend on hyperion hammers in order to shine. Whereas every other weapon the hammers are upgrades to what's already a viable weapon.
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Feb 15, 2021 19:55
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I'm not sure how these boons stack, but this was pretty underwhelming on default shield. Hit for 260, nice but if I'm trying to not get hit I'm dash-striking at best once every second. For something that seemed really good on paper the damage was unimpressive.  
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Feb 17, 2021 04:05
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Bananasaurus Rex posted:lol oh i meant achilles Like with a bow you are either dodging or shooting, that's the tempo.
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Feb 19, 2021 23:53
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Warmachine posted:I'd like to actually do the math on an ares/artemis/posiedon cast build vs some of the optimal weapon DPS builds. I suspect it's pretty close if not in ares cast's favor if you can get all the legendaries and duos you need. The problem is how legendary/duo dependent it is: you need Vicious Cycle, Hunting Blades, Mirage Shot, and Fully Loaded to get the full effect. But that works out to 5 full damage blade rifts and 5 30% blade rifts all ramping up on one enemy.   Another thing I've realized is Stygian Soul is kinda great for trippy shot and crystal beam. Crystal clarity is insane with support shot. You will constantly emanate homing arrows as long as the crystal cast is up and beaming something. As good as crystal cast can be, I file it under "good with the right other boons but not by itself." Like blade dash can be great with black hole (haha get hosed flamewheels) but it's more consistent to take that common athena/poseidon dash which are quality dashes by themselves.
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This rear end in a top hat hid in a corner during a duo fight and left me to dodge artemis endlessly because I couldn't find him.   That's fine I was doomed anyways. I burnt through 3 DD's on that duo fight because for some reason benefits package on high heat makes enemies have regenerating damage control shields. Without a fast-attacking weapon I had to focus enemies down to kill anything. And focusing something down on a duo fight where you take damage staying in one place was an unwinnable situation. I couldn't deal damage until I whittled through 4-5 hits + whatever they regenerate in that time. Just to start doing damage to one enemy. Maybe the trick I'm missing is learning not to take damage control with a slow attacking weapon. Damage control is a small hurdle with the fists/rail but quite a nightmare for 32 heat sword.
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From what I can tell dash-strike boons all stack as a cumulative percentage so Maxed out Zag Shield: 40 dash strike dmg +36% deadly strike +25% family favorite + 77% hunter's dash + 85% chaos +50% dashing wallop = +273% dash-strike damage +273% on 40 base dmg = 149  And that's what it hit for. 149 dmg dash-strikes are not very impressive all things considered... Party Boat posted:There was definitely a tipping point with Chaos where I went from "I've gotten really messed up in the last few rooms, I'll pass" to "HURT ME MORE"
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Is Hermes' Swift Flourish special attack speed boon actually good for the Zeus Shield? This is something I've been milling about every time I use the zeus shield and I'm finally starting to think that no, Swift Flourish is bad. The epic Swift Flourish 30% definitely makes the shield move faster, and I assume it makes the shield 'hit' more frequently but I really can't tell the difference in that respect. The whole problem is it makes the shield move faster and I don't think that's good, there's 3 ways to deal damage with the Zeus shield special 1) Aim and throw at enemies. 2) Recall and rodeo enemies behind you to eat the shield AOE as you move/dodge. 3) Toss the shield at a wall/barrier and dance around it without recalling while enemies move within the AOE to attack you. If Swift Flourish increases attack speed/movement speed at the same rates then the damage is equivalent when thrown towards enemies, but it still has downsides with really no upsides. I guess Swift Flourish is good if there is some enemy just standing still next to a wall? That's not really a thing though.
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Klyith posted:I think if the Swift Flourish worked on the hits/second of the blitz disc it'd totally be worth using, but I'd need to see evidence to believe it did more than speed up the movement. That is not what I would assume the case to be when "Your special is faster" in every other instance means your special attacks faster. Blitz disc doesn't 
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Mescal posted:Hm, unfortunately the security log doesn't include Chaos boons. There was one for 109% bonus damage and one for 75%. I like Zeus/Dionysus attack on zag fists & zag rail. Or Zeus/Dionysus special on zag shield. Demeter special for Zeus shield. Poseidon dash and breaking wave on anything.
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Aug 10, 2021 08:19
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Duo boons are good. I will gladly take a duo boon just for the chance I can sell it. Sometimes I'll sell the same duo boon twice in one run, good times. What's even better is when the duo boon is good and you would never sell it. As long as it's not Curse of Drowning, a boon so bad I wouldn't risk taking it even to sell it.Mescal posted:If I use a loaded cast in a weapon, does it proc synergistic things, like the cast gives them a status effect, the attack does bonus against baddies with that status effect?
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Aug 12, 2021 06:48
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If I ever felt like Exit Wounds was nearly useless against Hades, I loving know it is now (Not a bad boon per say, just Hades is invisible/invulnerable most of the fight)
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You know you're having a poo poo run when you get to the pool of purging after tartarus and you only have 2 boons you can purge because you only have 2 boons.
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