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Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



Get the folks who made the Les Miserables fighting game to develop it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ad6Os2Qhw4

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Cats has gone post modern in now there are theatre adaptations of the movie based on the play

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/dec/16/linus-karp-how-to-live-a-jellicle-life-movie-cats-film

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Maxwell Lord posted:

The Rum Tum Tugger is theoretically top tier but he's very hard to pilot.

Ridiculous cancel potential, obviously.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I want to fight as the hanging, disconnected yellow eyes

That's the T. J. Ecklesburg eyes boss fight from the Great Gatsby NES game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJqbb7UIiA&t=245s

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



Fuschia tude posted:

That's the T. J. Ecklesburg eyes boss fight from the Great Gatsby NES game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJqbb7UIiA&t=245s

I mean, the Great Gatsby is public domain now, so

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Fuschia tude posted:

That's the T. J. Ecklesburg eyes boss fight from the Great Gatsby NES game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJqbb7UIiA&t=245s

This is my favorite thing I’ve ever seen

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
then wait till you see CATS!

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Happy Thread posted:

then wait till you see CATS!

Lesser entertainment hits got NES/SNES games so why didn't cats get a side scrolling platformer where I can play as Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat?

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die

steinrokkan posted:

Nice job trying to own the film of which you were by far the worst part, Corden

Corden's character was the only part of my first CATS viewing where I was tempted to fast-forward, and boy is that saying a lot

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
I’m paraphrasing because I can’t find the source but every time I think about James Corden I think about someone asking Hbomberguy about him for some reason, and they said he was basically chased out of the UK for being James Corden, and he looked in on him a few years later only to find he had become a minor celebrity in the US, which was “like finding a small society of cockroaches worshipping a pizza box you threw out in 2012”

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I remember going out for a piss during his number and I regret nothing about it.

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up
Cordon and Wilson making fun of the visual effects work in Cats while presenting the award for visual effects at the oscars really pissed me off. I think of it every time I see him.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
To be fair to both of them, it's likely that they were just as appalled by how it turned out as we were.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


The only difference between me, an unemployed schlub, and James Corden is that I don't have a folder full of blackmail material. Why else does he keep popping up in movies?

Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jan 6, 2021

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
bingo

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Anne Whateley posted:

Chicago is literally the longest-running American musical. At some point you have to accept that's just the culture

But it's a revival. The original production flopped. It's more accurate to say the culture shifted enough where Chicago became a smash hit. Critics at the time theorized the OJ trial made the subject matter more viable.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Prince Myshkin posted:

But it's a revival. The original production flopped. It's more accurate to say the culture shifted enough where Chicago became a smash hit. Critics at the time theorized the OJ trial made the subject matter more viable.

That's always an interesting phenomenon, I feel.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
The original wasn't at all a flop; it ran for two years. It was based on a successful play, and the whole thing was based on the actual culture of the '20s. (I don't mean the style, I mean the fascination with true-crime reporting, sob sisters, etc.)

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The original production was also much darker and more aggressive, using the Brechtian element to attack the audience's complicity, and the revival (and doubly so the movie) is essentially fluffy, slick entertainment in comparison. It also had the misfortune of opening the same year as A Chorus Line, which blitzed everything else on Broadway. The second half of the "Take Off With Us" scene in All That Jazz where it becomes overtly sexual is basically a parody of Fosse's perverting of the show from a friendly No, No, Nanette-style 20s throwback into a Brechtian nightmare, which everyone hated him for.

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
So you're saying they gave us the ol' razzle dazzle?

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The flim-flam flummox, indeed.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

This is a pretty good video. Even knowing basically nothing about music composition "just have the actors try to sing and get the rest of the orchestra to follow along" sounds like a phenomenally bad idea.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Neurolimal posted:

This is a pretty good video. Even knowing basically nothing about music composition "just have the actors try to sing and get the rest of the orchestra to follow along" sounds like a phenomenally bad idea.

They had to invent new technology to be able to do that on set AND have the orchestra work it out afterwards. It is an insane amount of technical effort to create a system that's strictly worse than just lip-synching to playback.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Neurolimal posted:

This is a pretty good video. Even knowing basically nothing about music composition "just have the actors try to sing and get the rest of the orchestra to follow along" sounds like a phenomenally bad idea.

Wow, content strikes have already massacred that video, huh

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Fuschia tude posted:

Wow, content strikes have already massacred that video, huh

The weirdest ones are the second repeat of Wilson's slowdown (first one is intact), and Gus's soliloquy.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

theres a link in the bio to another version without the strikes which i dont know the logic of why its staying up.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Neurolimal posted:

This is a pretty good video. Even knowing basically nothing about music composition "just have the actors try to sing and get the rest of the orchestra to follow along" sounds like a phenomenally bad idea.

That video made me actually kinda love the original musical. There's a lot of stuff in it that I never even thought about.

Also, I always knew the lyric was "it's so easy to leave me" :smug:

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Can you link the other one? I wasn't done watching and it was pretty good

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

Happy Thread posted:

Can you link the other one? I wasn't done watching and it was pretty good

Here it is, from the description of the neutered video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4n6GVxCM8

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Does Skimbleshanks lose his whiskers between the two shots at 1:00:31?

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Neurolimal posted:

Does Skimbleshanks lose his whiskers between the two shots at 1:00:31?

Looks like it. They're at least opaque in the first and very translucent in the second.

Segue
May 23, 2007

So my friend and I watched Zardoz and it was so stunningly bad yet fascinating in its awfulness at the same time that I had this deep sense of familiarity.

It was so clearly incompetently made, with each decision being so poor that it never got "so bad it's good" because we were incredibly bored the whole time despite its ambition.

At the end, I kept trying to think of where I'd had this feeling of sheer awe at a movie's incompetence before and the answer was Cats. Now Cats may be on a different level simply because its budget and commercial crassness may make it less endearing, but I am so glad I got to experience the most conflicting, gut-punching confusion of my life again with a whole new non-Cats movie. The world is a magical place.

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Zardoz is a masterpiece.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
The story behind Zardoz is that the director was making a live action adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, but his investors got cold feet and the project was canceled with a lot of the sets and costumes made. The script was also partally written while he was tripping on LSD.

I suppose it fits with Cats because cats also feels like a bad acid trip after looking at too much furry porn.

David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Mar 1, 2021

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

David D. Davidson posted:

The story behind Zardoz is that the director was making a live action adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, but his investors got cold feet and the project was canceled with a lot of the sets and costumes made. The script was also partally written while he was tripping on LSD.

I suppose it fits with Cats because cats also feels like a bad acid trip after looking at too much furry porn.

We’re going to have to blame Zardoz on drugs, because it was made by John Boorman, who was legit a good director ... of other movies, such as Deliverance and Hope & Glory.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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And Zardoz, which rules.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Now now, we can't blame Cats on LSD, it was almost certainly a cocaine production.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

josh04 posted:

And Zardoz, which rules.

Yeah. People who don’t like Zardoz just don’t ‘get it’

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

josh04 posted:

And Zardoz, which rules.

Followed by the also amazing Excalibur. My brother watched that movie all the time because Helen Mirren shows her boobs.

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Segue
May 23, 2007

I mean, Zardoz has at least some novel costuming and we were fully invested in enjoying its outlandishness and horniness, but its misogyny, insane length, horrible editing and messiness made it a lot less enjoyable than we were hoping.

If I want to see interesting insanity from that period, I'll watch Lisztomania.

Sorry for the derail, but I just thought it was really interesting in seeing something that could have worked fail so spectacularly.

Back to Cats, I do wonder if it will develop the cult following like Zardoz and get reappraised with people admiring the ambition. I doubt it since it's a soulless adaptation of an existing property rather than one man's insane overlong acid trip that feels so of its time.

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