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 Questions abound. Wife (yup, I know) gets credit for spotting this this morning. We could not, in our caffeine deprived states, ascertain the endgame of the person who put this up. Insulin scam? Your best guesses/lies are greatly appreciated!
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The scam is the U.S. healthcare system
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Dec 23, 2019 14:24
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Yoshi Wins posted:The scam is the U.S. healthcare system It’s this op
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Dec 23, 2019 14:24
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To answer your question, OP, people who get free test strips as part of Medicare or private insurance resell them to uninsured people for less than retail cost. It's not a scam as much as it is a super depressing black market that people are forced into by either desperation or poverty.
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Dec 23, 2019 14:33
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Death to America
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Dec 23, 2019 14:34
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Yoshi Wins posted:The scam is the U.S. healthcare system
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Dec 23, 2019 14:39
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Yoshi Wins posted:The scam is the U.S. healthcare system President Sanders will elevate our nation from this dark slough.
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Dec 23, 2019 14:47
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What's to understand? Are you gonna pay to watch the diabetic stripper auditions or not?
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Dec 23, 2019 14:56
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not a scam but a grey market! To the goon who pegged it as “American healthcare is anything but” kindly see deception for your prize.
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Dec 23, 2019 15:12
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This poor desperate man thanks you for the prank phone calls
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Dec 23, 2019 16:05
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:To answer your question, OP, people who get free test strips as part of Medicare or private insurance resell them to uninsured people for less than retail cost. It's not a scam as much as it is a super depressing black market that people are forced into by either desperation or poverty. the people who get the free strips are the ones in desperation or poverty there genius
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Dec 23, 2019 16:07
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Discernibly Turgid posted:
If they are not expired, diabetic test strips fast on eBay and Amazon. Fast enough people are out there just trying to buy these wherever they can, like earning a full time income from flipping test strips. Hope that helps!
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Dec 23, 2019 16:10
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Next op will wonder why people sell food stamps
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Dec 23, 2019 16:11
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I’d been looking at it like a cousin of the clean piss scams and was coming up empty. Maybe it’s the writing that looks like it’s been done by the exact same guy that does the “We buy houses for ca$h,” and, “real estate investor seeks apprentice $5k-$10k” (the president doesn’t pay anyone adequately for dealing with his bullshit) signs. As someone who grew up on food stamps (but whose family needed the food too badly to take the value reduction hit from converting them to cash), I get a lot of this stuff. As an adult who only just recently came to realize he’s been battling (HARD) with adhd his whole life (and now needs to try medication) I have seen how immutably terrible this system remains. I couldn’t get my wisdom teeth removed until my mid-20s when I was studying in Germany. Socialized medicine kicks rear end. Thanks, All, for helping solve the riddle. If I could use photoshop, I’d like to make a series of edits of that sign in which increasingly ludicrous items are sought after by the sign maker.
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Dec 23, 2019 17:53
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I want to joke also about people who can’t afford a medical necessity to live.
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Dec 23, 2019 18:00
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E: ^  Discernibly Turgid posted:Thanks, All, for helping solve the riddle. If I could use photoshop, I’d like to make a series of edits of that sign in which increasingly ludicrous items are sought after by the sign maker. In any other country strips are basically free or super cheap. But in America people are so desperate for strips to monitor their possibly life threatening medical condition that they're willing to buy poo poo on the street. I'm struggling to think of anything more ludicrous than that. Elephants? Children's teeth maybe?
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Dec 23, 2019 18:03
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Yoshi Wins posted:The scam is the U.S. healthcare system
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Dec 23, 2019 18:03
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The scam is American Healthcare op
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Dec 23, 2019 18:07
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Discernibly Turgid posted:I’d been looking at it like a cousin of the clean piss scams and was coming up empty. Maybe it’s the writing that looks like it’s been done by the exact same guy that does the “We buy houses for ca$h,” and, “real estate investor seeks apprentice $5k-$10k” (the president doesn’t pay anyone adequately for dealing with his bullshit) signs. It’s really quite sad,op. And a mean base of a photoshop thread
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Dec 23, 2019 18:10
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Then the writing on the sign strongly suggests this is NOT an endeavor undertaken by an end user (about whom I would not laugh.) Seeing as someone found this to be their hustle, I am further troubled by the realization that at least one person saw Martin Skrelli’s (sp?) stupid, smirking mug and thought something other than, “Man, gently caress this guy.”
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Dec 23, 2019 18:13
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There's a new strip club for diabetics and they're holding auditions, duh
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Dec 23, 2019 18:19
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Yoshi Wins posted:The scam is the U.S. healthcare system
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Dec 23, 2019 18:46
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Years ago, my youngest son was prescribed a special eye drop. I went to the pharmacy to pick it up, and my insurance didn't cover it(as usual) and it was 350.00 dollars for 1/10 of an ounce of medicine. Literally loving worth more than gold by weight. Nice healthcare system America, good job!
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Dec 23, 2019 19:06
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I think my elbow may be fractured (tried ice skating for the first time) but can't afford to even have it x-rayed. Maybe I should join the military, idk
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Dec 23, 2019 19:15
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The secret is to make all do your injuries work related. Mangle your foot with a lawn mower on Saturday? You better hold out until you can make it to the office Monday morning and blame it on the copier.
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Dec 23, 2019 19:21
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Rad-daddio posted:The secret is to make all do your injuries work related. HR might have some questions with 'Employee sat on a dildo during Monday meeting'.
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Dec 23, 2019 19:29
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Outrail posted:HR might have some questions with 'Employee sat on a dildo during Monday meeting'. Tell them you fell on it in the break room.
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Dec 23, 2019 19:38
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Outrail posted:HR might have some questions with 'Employee sat on a dildo during Monday meeting'. The Dick Sucking Factory pays an incredibly high workers' comp premium, trust me
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Dec 23, 2019 19:45
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:I think my elbow may be fractured (tried ice skating for the first time) but can't afford to even have it x-rayed. Maybe I should join the military, idk Not with that elbow. 
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Dec 23, 2019 19:51
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Burt Sexual posted:And a mean base of a photoshop thread Just gotta aim in the correct direction: 
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Dec 23, 2019 20:17
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Klyith posted:Just gotta aim in the correct direction: Yup. Oh yeah. That’s the stuff...
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Dec 24, 2019 00:35
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It’s almost certainly Medicare fraud, OP. A medical provider (likely dialysis clinic in this case) buys the testing strips for pennies on the dollar, gives/sells them to patients, then bills Medicare for the strips as if they were bought from a wholesaler at full price. Same thing happens with other medicine/non durable medical equipment. There is a more direct scam that isn’t technically Medicare fraud (because you don’t bill the strips to the government but rather just sell them straight to the end user), but this is less common. E. Also, there is big business in ferreting out these scams and bringing them to the government’s attention via what’s known as a “qui tam” action; you can get up to 25% of what the government ends up recovering from the fraudfeasors (plus your attorneys fees and reasonable expenses). Look up the “False Claims Act private suit” for more info. Brother Tadger fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Dec 24, 2019 |
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Dec 24, 2019 00:39
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It its selling them to needy people on the cheap: Good If it's some doctor making money without passing on the saving to patients: Guillotine But there's nothing inherently bad about ripping off insurance companies. 'But they pass on the losses to everyone else' is bullshit. The charges are basically arbitrary already.
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Dec 24, 2019 01:04
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1redflag posted:It’s almost certainly Medicare fraud, OP. A medical provider (likely dialysis clinic in this case) buys the testing strips for pennies on the dollar, gives/sells them to patients, then bills Medicare for the strips as if they were bought from a wholesaler at full price. Same thing happens with other medicine/non durable medical equipment. There is a more direct scam that isn’t technically Medicare fraud (because you don’t bill the strips to the government but rather just sell them straight to the end user), but this is less common. I ain't no snitch!
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Dec 24, 2019 02:08
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Outrail posted:It its selling them to needy people on the cheap: Good I mean this is a real thing and a big part of why our system gets so expensive for the middle class. Like yeah healthcare being for profit is the main issue but all the clever ways to game the system just end up being passed onto the people actually putting into it because as long as it is for profit they're gonna want to make money off those they can. You're not really sticking it to the man you're just in part responsible for worse and more expensive plans for the working class.
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Dec 24, 2019 02:33
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Death Outrail posted:In any other country strips are basically free or super cheap. But in America people are so desperate for strips to monitor their possibly life threatening medical condition that they're willing to buy poo poo on the street. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mother-fights-for-lower-insulin-prices-after-sons-tragic-death/ At least we have freedom. Outrail posted:It its selling them to needy people on the cheap: Good I know someone on medicare and the statements you get back in the mail are fun. Doctors will bill for some absurd amount of money because medicare will only pay out a fraction of that, but to get that amount they have to bill for anywhere from two to four times the actual pay out. Here's where the fun comes in. If you don't have insurance and have to pay out of pocket they don't adjust it to the cost the insurance company actually pays. So they price gouge you knowing full well that they are price gouging you. this is why people die from preventable illnesses.
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Dec 24, 2019 06:46
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ArbitraryC posted:You're not really sticking it to the man you're just in part responsible for worse and more expensive plans for the working class. CPL593H posted:So they price gouge you knowing full well that they are price gouging you. this is why people die from preventable illnesses. So are they billing you as much as they can or are they billing you more to make up for the scams? It really can't be both. They might say it's because of scams, but in the first instance it's a lie or an excuse. Or maybe poor insurance companies are just trying to scrape by after the drug companies put their hundreds of percent markup on production costs and the mean old diabetics are basically stealing boats from their docks.
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Dec 24, 2019 07:13
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ArbitraryC posted:I mean this is a real thing and a big part of why our system gets so expensive for the middle class. Like yeah healthcare being for profit is the main issue but all the clever ways to game the system just end up being passed onto the people actually putting into it because as long as it is for profit they're gonna want to make money off those they can. You're not really sticking it to the man you're just in part responsible for worse and more expensive plans for the working class. Hmm yes maybe but on the other hand getting one up on the cancer that feasts on society's literal sickness is cool and also good
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Outrail posted:So are they billing you as much as they can or are they billing you more to make up for the scams? It really can't be both. They might say it's because of scams, but in the first instance it's a lie or an excuse. Or maybe poor insurance companies are just trying to scrape by after the drug companies put their hundreds of percent markup on production costs and the mean old diabetics are basically stealing boats from their docks. I don't know exactly why they do this but I'm assuming the way medicare works is all hosed up so they have to give a much higher number than they know medicare will actually pay out to get the money they're supposed to get for which ever service. I have no idea if this is how the private insurance companies are run, if you're not in the US medicare isn't a private company. It's a government program that gives the kind of health insurance everyone should have to people that are either retired or disabled.
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