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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Fallen Hamprince posted:

While having a forum for bad members of the community to be called out might seem like a good idea, the nature of goons is to inevitably turn it into an arena in which mediocre posters attempt to run their forums enemies out of the community for having bad opinions about sonic or whatever. Moreover subforums like helldump inevitably become populated with regulars who are attracted to the idea of constant poster-on-poster violence due to their severe and untreated personality disorders.

A lot of them went on to found internet communities based around that and can be found at the centre of far too many internet shitstorms. Been some theories that Helldump and communities like it are training grounds for 'superbullies', or whatever you'd call people whose primary hobby becomes turning entire communities against any available target for kicks. Kiwifarms is definitely founded by Helldumpers at any rate.

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JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019
Pretty hosed up that there's people out there whose hobby is maliciously instigating mass bannings and purges on internet forums

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Milo and POTUS posted:

The kueenbu thread was hilarious

No, YOU shut the gently caress up, Dad!

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It was bad as hell and opening it was one of the worst decisions ever made on this website.

Ooooo, nice okcupid profile you got their Amadeus Tex, wonder what your boss at best buy is gonna think about it???

this seems awful but also anachronistic

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

wtf is kiwifarms also. I was an incredibly not online person for a very long time.also im a russian spy

lilbeefer
Oct 4, 2004

Kueenbu thread still worth reading

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2641107

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

JK Fresco posted:

Pretty hosed up that there's people out there whose hobby is maliciously instigating mass bannings and purges on internet forums

lol let's not pick that scab off yet

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Your rear end happened to Hell Dump.

That's what happened.


Lowtax took one long, lingering, seductive, finger-licking gaze at you and your rear end looking at hell dump and various other things and then said "....mmm no" while he pinched a nipple.

YOU caused this. Are you PROUD of that? I can't be sure of it! God drat you.

Beard Dandruff
May 10, 2017

Want to win a consultation with Tiffany? Click
here.

The_Continental posted:

wtf is kiwifarms also. I was an incredibly not online person for a very long time.also im a russian spy

A forum full of insane people dedicated to gang stalking other insane people.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

morally adept posted:

A forum full of insane people dedicated to gang stalking other insane people.

Also people who happen to be gay or trans

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I do miss the goons.txt and jpg threads just for collecting all of the weird poo poo goons said and did. The goon sagas thread and the funny quotes thread mostly serve the same purpose now just with less hostility

I guess in a way it sort of predicted social media and the idea of digging up everything a person has ever said or done and holding them accountable, but in 2019 that's less "this guy has a fairly embarrassing photo of himself on his MySpace" and more "this guy thinks Hitler did nothing wrong"

large hands
Jan 24, 2006

Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club??

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
I'm not going to lie, I loving LOVED Helldump. I lurked Helldump faithfully (it was a lot like lurking the zaurg/Knyteguy/Blue Story threads if they were longer, more varied, and in much more numerous) and I'm pretty sure I read every single thread in there from start to finish. That said, I understand why it was closed and was never bitter about that decision. It's kind of like the forums grew out of it at the same time as I did.

Also, there was something oddly satisfying about the era when the Helldumpers started turning on each other, because you'd sloooowwwwly come to realize that the Helldumpers were just as Helldumpable as the Helldump-ees (see: Boniface).

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

A lot of them went on to found internet communities based around that and can be found at the centre of far too many internet shitstorms. Been some theories that Helldump and communities like it are training grounds for 'superbullies', or whatever you'd call people whose primary hobby becomes turning entire communities against any available target for kicks. Kiwifarms is definitely founded by Helldumpers at any rate.

There's some really funny poo poo on KF if you can sift thru the n word and antisemitism, it's basically like looking at our own forums archive!

Don't take my word for it on KF, even our own senior lowtax gets in on the fun

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Xotl posted:

No, that was LooseChanj.



Man this site used to have hella fine goonettes on it. Wtf happened

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Man this site used to have hella fine goonettes on it. Wtf happened

People kept leaving them creepy comments on Awful Yearbook.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Man this site used to have hella fine goonettes on it. Wtf happened

They now know better than to post their pictures on the internet & associate them with their SA usernames.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Xotl posted:

No, that was LooseChanj.

God drat, this is like that "confused Indians on Facebook" poo poo.


What the hell.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Man this site used to have hella fine goonettes on it. Wtf happened

because now most women know that if you post a picture online you have to be prepared for creepy comments

Cyril Sneer
Aug 8, 2004

Life would be simple in the forest except for Cyril Sneer. And his life would be simple except for The Raccoons.
Whatever happened to that Two Worlds guy?

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
I felt bad for Two Worlds but that was some amazing helldumping :stare:

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
The goons.txt thread was the best thing about Helldump because it mocked a broad variety of dumb posts instead obsessing over a single person.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

rear end cobra posted:

I felt bad for Two Worlds but that was some amazing helldumping :stare:

Same, dude had some serious mental health issues.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

helldump was very funny for its first year or so but got too obsessive and dark. the best thing about it was collecting funny posts from the forums and thankfully fyad is just barely allowed to carry on that tradition, so we can find out about posts like the one from a few weeks ago when a steroid goon asked if cumming in his girlfriend’s rear end could make her sick

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
That's the thing -- FYAD might occasionally do Helldump-esque stuff, but Helldump was a lot...cleaner, if that makes sense. For the most part, the posts were well-defended and contained tons of (mostly hilarious) evidence, and people's comments on those post were coherent and on-topic. It was just less cluttered altogether, even in the era of signatures, and imho it helped that the background wasn't pink.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Nodding and whooping in agreement with FYADs open letter to the admins and mods

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014
Goons are incapable of bearing scrutiny but also incapable of avoiding self disclosure.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Burt Sexual posted:

Same, dude had some serious mental health issues.

But was also a manipulator and pretty hosed up and cruel while great at painting himself the victim and being on the internet and SA especially was not good for his health. Hopefully he got the help he needed and didn't just go to some other forum to be their pity pity project

Telebite
Aug 23, 2018

The_Continental posted:

wtf is kiwifarms also. I was an incredibly not online person for a very long time.also im a russian spy

People trolling / bullying / harassing Chris Chan set up a Wiki for him to troll him (for example they ran gay porn ads on the front page and told him there is nothing they could do about it, etc.). The Wiki was known as the "CWCki," the CWC being Chris Chan's initials. (He used his initials to name CWCville, a fictional town in his comics.) They eventually setup forums for this Wiki... the CWCki Forums. It eventually evolved to be about trolling / bullying / harassing basically anyone, and the name changed to Kiwi Farms. At some point a lot of them began to realize how horrible it was to harass a mentally disabled man, regardless how much of a creep they observed him to be, and began trolling and harassing people who troll and harass Chris Chan.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Can I tell u about my penis wrinkles tho

Only if I can talk about the freckle on mine

GreenaBoy
Jan 7, 2005

I like to fart in the bathtub and bite the bubbles...GRAVITAS!!!

I had a Helldump thread about me once (It could have been FYAD). I posted a few pictures in a "show your gaming setup" thread and from there I would get random posts on my Social Media at the time or messaged on AIM. I don't remember too much harassment just random messages sometimes. I like to go back to my old youtube account and see if the comments are still there. But now it looks like only a few accounts survived.

most of the messages were like this and usually made me laugh more than anything:

YouTube Comment posted:

Urm. Please keep your voice down. If you need to speak more loudly, please whisper into this walkie talkie and I shall hear you upon my bluetooth earpiece. As you can see, my wife and I do not lack any technological comfort. Now please, silence as I guide Paper Mario through this rather challenging level.

YouTube Comment posted:

i make movies in my spare time when my parents are sleeping upstairs and i have time to monkey around :)
my mom bought me the camera after i took out the garbage for a whole month; worth it

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
I was there when Helldump was founded (this would have been 2007) and honestly it really was a product of the times for SA. At the time we had a LOT of lovely posters running around GBS and the subforums and I'm not talking people you find annoying or disagree with. We had people with some seriously hosed-up views of the world (like racists and pedophiles) who just plain creeped you out whenever they went on a tangent. If they were truly lovely people or had serious undiagnosed, untreated or unmedicated mental health disorders will forever be a matter of debate. But the fact of the matter is we had people who talked about "it's cool I find this six-year old anime girl attractive because she is actually a 10,000 year old witch" and actually MEANT it.

At the time it wasn't bannable to be creepy (it really is now) so these people would run around the forums with no self-awareness just creeping (or even freaking) people out and never picking up on it or getting argumentative about it. So the admins decided to fix this by making Helldump which was a call-out forum for those lovely posters as everyone has stated. At first, it was good but that was because posters were targeting all the right people (again, product of its times yada yada). The LegoRobot thread was the first Helldump thread I followed in real-time and it is glorious because I remember how much of a narcisstic rear end in a top hat he was (and a pedophile as the thread found out). There were other threads like Two Worlds as well.

But, like has also been said it went downhill fast. The threads started becoming about "this guy disagree with me on D&D" and would scrape the absolute bottom of the barrel for his "poo poo posts" which were nothing. Helldump got clogged bad with those threads and I left because it was getting stupid and petty. I wasn't there when it became a doxx-fest with people who spend WAY too much time online (to the point where reality is ill-defined) threatening people over real and/or perceived sleights. It just became a walking liability because the day would come when some goon would shoot-up his university or something and it would get traced back here (kinda what happened with 8chan). So it got closed.

Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Dec 27, 2019

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Like all inquisitions, helldump didn't stop once they'd rooted out the people they were intended to drive away. With legitimate targets and grievances gone, it had to make up new ones to justify it's existence.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

Chomp8645 posted:

Like all inquisitions, helldump didn't stop once they'd rooted out the people they were intended to drive away. With legitimate targets and grievances gone, it had to make up new ones to justify it's existence.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



My proudest moment in helldump was replying to a nazi with a dick pic they'd posted to some obscure gay hookup forum 5 years previously and they never posted again. I was disturbingly good at doxxing.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Justin Godscock posted:

But, like has also been said it went downhill fast. The threads started becoming about "this guy disagree with me on D&D" and would scrape the absolute bottom of the barrel for his "poo poo posts" which were nothing. Helldump got clogged bad with those threads and I left because it was getting stupid and petty.

And as it was spiraling toward its downfall, people would post lovely "this guy disagreed with me on D&D" threads and get reverse-Helldumped because they were the ones that were hateful creepasses -- those were pretty hilarious threads.

edit:

cynic posted:

My proudest moment in helldump was replying to a nazi with a dick pic they'd posted to some obscure gay hookup forum 5 years previously and they never posted again. I was disturbingly good at doxxing.

Literally the only reason I ever learned how to doxx was to prevent my own self from being doxxed.

YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Dec 27, 2019

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

cynic posted:

My proudest moment in helldump was replying to a nazi with a dick pic they'd posted to some obscure gay hookup forum 5 years previously and they never posted again. I was disturbingly good at doxxing.

:eyepop:

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

cynic posted:

My proudest moment in helldump was replying to a nazi with a dick pic they'd posted to some obscure gay hookup forum 5 years previously and they never posted again. I was disturbingly good at doxxing.

... gently caress dude haha

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purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

rear end cobra posted:

I felt bad for Two Worlds but that was some amazing helldumping :stare:

There wasn't a lot of helldumping with two worlds, he was posting most of the hosed up parts himself. He was also a creepo who eventually got fired from his teaching job at some Lutheran(or equivalent sect) school for being incompetent and ogling the lady students

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