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Who is the #1 Overall Pick
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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


WhyteRyce posted:

Someone tell me what a KAT Toppin front court would be from a defensive perspective

It'd be the worst defense in the league by a lot. And I'm not even sure I'd love the offense that much unless they got a second ball handler or the wings developed a little, but I think I'm a lot lower on D'lo than consensus.

Also on the "worst comp" question from earlier there is an article on that athletic today where they ask agents for anonymous quotes about a bunch of stuff. It is most notable for someone who represents players in a league that is 2/3 black being a cowardly baby and anonymously whining about the players associating themselves with "all that black lives matter stuff" (while also implying that they're all a bunch of idiots and being tricked into it) but also features someone who I can only assume represents James Wiseman comping Wiseman to Bam, which is my new worst comp answer.

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Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


Strong agree on Wolves needing another ball handler, especially for the HC. Its a reason I think Ball is the choice if they don't move the pick and intend to keep the player. There's the shooting focus for the Wolves but I think their offense will be held back if D'Lo is constantly on-ball.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



MourningView posted:

It'd be the worst defense in the league by a lot. And I'm not even sure I'd love the offense that much unless they got a second ball handler or the wings developed a little, but I think I'm a lot lower on D'lo than consensus.

Also on the "worst comp" question from earlier there is an article on that athletic today where they ask agents for anonymous quotes about a bunch of stuff. It is most notable for someone who represents players in a league that is 2/3 black being a cowardly baby and anonymously whining about the players associating themselves with "all that black lives matter stuff" (while also implying that they're all a bunch of idiots and being tricked into it) but also features someone who I can only assume represents James Wiseman comping Wiseman to Bam, which is my new worst comp answer.

james wiseman: bam adebayo if bam was worse at defense, didn’t have a motor, and couldn’t pass

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011



Declan MacManus posted:

james wiseman: bam adebayo if bam was worse at defense, didn’t have a motor, and couldn’t pass

and was 4 inches taller

Katana_Warrior
Dec 25, 2009



Lamelo would also be good for when Dlo gets hurt for 35 games like he does every other season

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



Paul Zuvella posted:

and was 4 inches taller

it’s true, you can’t teach height

Boonoo
Nov 4, 2009

ASHRAKAN!
Take your Thralls and dive back into the depths! Give us the meat and GO!


Grimey Drawer

In a normal draft year is there any chatter about how player workouts go? Or does that only happen after the fact?

Just wondering if there’ll be a new round of info/rumors once teams start holding their individual workouts.

Katana_Warrior
Dec 25, 2009



Boonoo posted:

In a normal draft year is there any chatter about how player workouts go? Or does that only happen after the fact?

Just wondering if there’ll be a new round of info/rumors once teams start holding their individual workouts.

usually there's some. Markelle Fultz had a rough workout with the Celtics and it was leaked before the draft and before the phili trade. Lakers wouldn't shut up about lonzo's workout.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014



Heres a fun fact, when kat and dlo were on the floor together this season the wolves had a defensive rating of 143, and I for one am interested in seeing if they can get that any higher

Boonoo
Nov 4, 2009

ASHRAKAN!
Take your Thralls and dive back into the depths! Give us the meat and GO!


Grimey Drawer

Katana_Warrior posted:

usually there's some. Markelle Fultz had a rough workout with the Celtics and it was leaked before the draft and before the phili trade. Lakers wouldn't shut up about lonzo's workout.

Cool! I imagine anything that comes out is going to be strategically leaked and potential misdirection, but I'm here for all of it.

There was a Lowe Post a while back that had the author of, I think, a sixers book talking about the Markelle Fultz workout. It sounded real rough.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


There's already a little bit of it, if you have ESPN+ Mike Schmitz just did an article about workouts for Maxey, McDaniels, Josh Green, and Tyler Bey, and I've seen a few people talking about how good Wiseman has looked at his workouts.

I would guess you'll get a lot of stuff especially about the Warriors loving someone based on a workout, they've been talking a ton this cycle about how they love basically every possible lottery pick to try to entice teams to trade up with them.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida





Algund Eenboom posted:

Heres a fun fact, when kat and dlo were on the floor together this season the wolves had a defensive rating of 143, and I for one am interested in seeing if they can get that any higher

Isn't the sample size of that only like five minutes

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001



quote:

But it seems that the Knicks’ interest in Haliburton is not as strong as the other prospects such as two-way wingman Isaac Okoro whom the they have “inquisitively scouted and liked from the jump” according to Ian Begley of SNY.

Prohm said he’s never met with the Knicks yet and admitted that his communication with them was just confined to text messages.

“I have not talked to the Knicks personally. Just a little bit of texts with one of the guys that’s new over there. But that doesn’t mean that my staff has not talked to them. I don’t ask them all the teams they talk to,” Prohm told Empire Sports Media.

I know its the covid era and all, but it seems less than ideal your prospect research and evaluation consists of having some rando employee send a couple of texts to the guys' head coach

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


Hali would be a really bad fit there so probably for the best

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends


Plaster Town Cop

Okoro suddenly getting Bam Adebayo comps is bad for him. Whenever someone has a breakout year and someone gets comped to them, you're in for sorrow. The canonical example is Deangelo Russel being compared to Steph Curry

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova


Okoro's draft status is so baffling to me because all the writeups are like, "If you're looking for a 3 and D wing, Okoro is the best of the lot! The only problem is he can't shoot,"

Meanwhile Vassell is sick on D and shot over 40% on threes

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


It's very weird! I can actually kinda see some Bam in his game but he's like five inches shorter lol. The best case comp for him is something closer to Butler this year.

Katana_Warrior
Dec 25, 2009



every description i've read on Okoro makes him sound like Stanley Johnson 2.0

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014



IcePhoenix posted:

Isn't the sample size of that only like five minutes

It was 25 minutes ACTuALLY

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



okoro’s a really good passer and defender so the adebayo thing isn’t ridiculous

i don’t think he’ll do well on the knicks

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014



Not sure who the knicks would draft that wouldnt be a bad decision tbh... vassell i guess

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



vassell would be good, tyrell terry would be a hell of a reach but he’ll probably be good off the ball, patrick williams would probably be good, killian hayes would be good if he falls

i like okoro but he’s yet another wing that can’t shoot

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014



Declan MacManus posted:

vassell would be good, tyrell terry would be a hell of a reach but he’ll probably be good off the ball, patrick williams would probably be good, killian hayes would be good if he falls

i like okoro but he’s yet another wing that can’t shoot

Please do NOT send killian hayes to the knicks. THank you

tanglewood1420
Oct 28, 2010

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Is Killian Hayes a primary ballhandler, pick and roll running type player? Cause that's what the Knicks desperately need.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


Katana_Warrior posted:

every description i've read on Okoro makes him sound like Stanley Johnson 2.0

Okoro is a lot more athletic. Johnson can't really jump so he had really bad finishing numbers in college despite being built like a tight end. Okoro shot like 65% at the rim and had an insane free throw rate. Also think he's a better ball handler and passer. Worse shooter though.

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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


tanglewood1420 posted:

Is Killian Hayes a primary ballhandler, pick and roll running type player? Cause that's what the Knicks desperately need.

Extremely yes. His biggest issue is that he kinda stinks off ball right now because he's never had to do it. He's a great pick and roll passer and way better shooting off the dribble than he is off the catch.

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