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I really don't know how they'll pull of the Weapons without making them huge QTEs like God of War or Kingdom Hearts. Especially Emerald Weapon with the whole underwater thing.
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There'll presumably be some situational thing where you're fighting a part of the weapon rather than taking it on one-to-one. Like it'll be so large you're running around on its head or back or whatever slowly attacking its defences.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:51
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I can't wait to fight Hell House. I'm glad they made it a boss because they weren't fun to fight consecutively in that one area in the original.
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Mar 15, 2020 15:47
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Each part of the remake series should have a larger, more elaborate Hell House, culminating in Hell Skyscraper
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Mar 15, 2020 15:50
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What they should do for each Weapon is just make it an FF14 raid like they did with Ruby Weapon. Literally, for those fights, change the entire combat system to MMO style, sort of like what Metal Gear did for the final fight with Liquid and Ocelot. Make Barrett run off the edge of the arena and laugh at him.
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Mar 15, 2020 16:10
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Gologle posted:What they should do for each Weapon is just make it an FF14 raid like they did with Ruby Weapon. Literally, for those fights, change the entire combat system to MMO style, sort of like what Metal Gear did for the final fight with Liquid and Ocelot. Wouldn't Cid be the one doing that if we're in FF14 mode?
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Mar 15, 2020 16:27
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They kind of did a rudimentary version of that with the last boss in the original game, where it was your entire party up against him and you could switch between mini-groups. Kind of put together like crap, but the thought was there
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Mar 15, 2020 16:35
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I trust that Bizarro Sephiroth will still take until the heat death of the universe to die between phases.
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Mar 15, 2020 16:38
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Chain Soken to a desk and make him write the songs for each of the Weapons too btw.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:05
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Man I love the WEAPONs so loving much. So much of my favourite parts of FFVII are actually after Midgar. Both Flashbacks, Cosmo Canyon, the Forgotten Capital, the WEAPONs, etc.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:37
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MonsieurChoc posted:Man I love the WEAPONs so loving much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFV2oONbho One of the greatest moments in all of FFVII. FFVII isn't just the story itself, it's the storytelling. Stuff like having the cannon fire and then the eerie silence save for the waves as we wait to see if it worked is so, so good.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:45
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The 1st disc of FFVII is probably my favorite part. You meet a lot of the characters in Midgar, then you travel across the world exploring the side stories and backstories for a lot of characters while picking up a few more along the way. The side stories like cosmo canyon, corel, etc. add a lot to the game imo.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:49
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Joining the love for the Weapons and I can’t wait to see how they handle them for this remaster - they should be able to do some incredible sense of scale stuff
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Really hoping Ruby WEAPON's presence is expanded a bit. All the others are definitively shown as massive threats whereas Ruby... hangs out under a casino, doing nothing unless somebody comes along to poke him.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:53
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I was never able to do Emerald weapon as a kid becuase you were underwater with the timer and it's really big and somehow I thought this was all very scary.
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Raposa posted:Really hoping Ruby WEAPON's presence is expanded a bit. All the others are definitively shown as massive threats whereas Ruby... hangs out under a casino, doing nothing unless somebody comes along to poke him. Neither Ruby nor Emerald have much of a presence as they weren't in the original Japanese release. Emerald just chills out underwater unless you crash into him.
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Mar 15, 2020 18:14
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Exiting the sunken plane with Emerald suddenly RIGHT IN YOUR loving FACE is top 10 childhood nightmare fuel.
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HD DAD posted:Exiting the sunken plane with Emerald suddenly RIGHT IN YOUR loving FACE is top 10 childhood nightmare fuel.
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Mar 15, 2020 18:29
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I always figured they were mostly mechanical, but with mushy fleshy bits underneath, like EVAs. Looking closely to the old FMVs though they do look like monsters don't they.
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Mar 15, 2020 18:30
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https://twitter.com/Random_Factor/status/1231271828208967681
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Mar 15, 2020 18:59
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Look they got to bring back Nael somehow, whether we want them to or not.
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Mar 15, 2020 19:06
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Did Eiko grow up and take over the world, creating the Eikon Empire or something?
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Mar 15, 2020 19:42
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Eikons are what Garleans call summon monsters
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HD DAD posted:Exiting the sunken plane with Emerald suddenly RIGHT IN YOUR loving FACE is top 10 childhood nightmare fuel.  Scalding Coffee posted:Did Eiko grow up and take over the world, creating the Eikon Empire or something? XIV's version of Summons are called Primals by most people, but the ancient word for them is Eikon. That word is also adopted by the modern day evil empire.
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I now have all 4 huge materias and everyone's Final Limit except Cloud's because I didn't do the Battle Square yet. I have a Gold Chocobo and KotR though. My final team looks to be Cloud, Red (with Stardust Ray) and Yuffie (With Doom of the Living). There's a lot of nice character moments if you take the time to talk to your team ebwteen plot events, like Vincent reminiscing about Professor Gast giving all the machines to Cosmo Canyon, Red telling us Aerith used to pet his snout a lot and it bothered him but now he misses it or Caith Sith saying he told Elmyra about her daugther'S death and both Elmyra and Marlene cried a lot.
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Sneak Lemming posted:I always figured they were mostly mechanical, but with mushy fleshy bits underneath, like EVAs. Looking closely to the old FMVs though they do look like monsters don't they. I always thought that they were largely organic, but that they had mechanical (or bio-mechanical) parts. Diamond weapon really looks like it has metal plates/ports in its shoulders where it launches those projectiles, but its limbs look very fleshy (especially its feet). It also looks like it flinches when it sees the shot from Sister Ray approaching, which seems more like a response that a creature would have. It also looks very organic in its Kingsglaive appearance, which is the look I assume they will go with for its FF7R appearance. Although, Ultima WEAPON does have a very mechanical looking "core"...
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Also after reatching the hidden scene in the Mansion I've had the idea of a 90s-style tv show about Zack doing mercenary work (A-Team style) to get the money to take care of his sick brother Cloud.
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Mar 15, 2020 22:24
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I'm impressed that Barret can get to the top of ladders way faster than Cloud. You know, despite only having one hand to climb with.
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Mar 15, 2020 22:28
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Techno-organic Weapons, maybe?
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MonsieurChoc posted:So much of my favourite parts of FFVII are actually after Midgar. Both Flashbacks, Cosmo Canyon, the Forgotten Capital, the WEAPONs, etc. Midgar was the intro and when it finally opens up stuff starts actually happening. Given the cutscenes shown in trailers it looks like it would finish with the big long recap story Cloud tells at the inn after you get out of Midgar, but they may retcon that so that you don't actually leave or make the whole post-escape to inn segment a cutscene or something. All the interesting stuff happened later. Have been waiting on this since Elentor's incredibly amazing LP reminded me that the characters were really good until the extended Gackt-fueled universe happened.
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Correct me if my memory is wrong, but Ultima Weapon is the one that had a white haired anime boy dual wielding katanas as its core, right? EDIT: Wait, no, Ultima Weapon is the one you get Ultima Weapon, Cloud's final weapon, from by beating in the skies. I don't remember the Weapon's name from Dirge of Cerberus. Gologle fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Mar 15, 2020 |
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Techno-organic Weapons, maybe? Like in Beast Wars?!  Gologle posted:Correct me if my memory is wrong, but Ultima Weapon is the one that had a white haired anime boy dual wielding katanas as its core, right? DoC's WEAPON was Omega, supposedly the planet's final final defence mechanism that would gather up all the lifestream and shoot it into space to find a new home. Sacrificing a bunch of people was apparently enough to trigger a big enough surge for the planet to activate it, even though the planet didn't bother when Meteor was about to hit or during all the wars that Shinra fought for world dominance. DoC was loving stupid. The white haired anime boy you're thinking of was Weiss, I think. I don't think he was a WEAPON. Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 15, 2020 |
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Psycho Knight posted:Like in Beast Wars?! I mean to be fair Holy was also being held back so it's entirely possible Sephiroth could go "haha, nah" to the Last of Last Resorts considering he did it with Holy already. But y'know, Holy existed.
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Psycho Knight posted:The white haired anime boy you're thinking of was Weiss, I think.
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ImpAtom posted:I mean to be fair Holy was also being held back so it's entirely possible Sephiroth could go "haha, nah" to the Last of Last Resorts considering he did it with Holy already. That could explain Meteor, although it doesn't explain the whole Shinra world dominance thing, unless they somehow became the global superpower while barely killing anyone. Jackard posted:Of course that would be the name. It's worse than you think. I think his full title or whatever you call it is "Weiss the Immaculate".
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MonsieurChoc posted:I now have all 4 huge materias and everyone's Final Limit except Cloud's because I didn't do the Battle Square yet. I have a Gold Chocobo and KotR though. My final team looks to be Cloud, Red (with Stardust Ray) and Yuffie (With Doom of the Living). You blazed through that fast. I assume you were using a guide for the disc3 stuff?
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Ethiser posted:I really don't know how they'll pull of the Weapons without making them huge QTEs like God of War or Kingdom Hearts. Especially Emerald Weapon with the whole underwater thing. GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK
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Sneak Lemming posted:You blazed through that fast. I assume you were using a guide for the disc3 stuff? I'm jobless and I've played the game multiple times over the years.
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Gologle posted:Correct me if my memory is wrong, but Ultima Weapon is the one that had a white haired anime boy dual wielding katanas as its core, right? Psycho Knight posted:Like in Beast Wars?! Weiss was like the avatar of Omega Weapon, channeling its power in opposition to Vincent's Chaos. I don't remember how or why for any of this but that was the idea of DoC's plot. I remember a lot of nerdy Power Level discussions back in my youth about the strongest characters in FFVII and Chaos Vincent and Omega Weiss came up a lot. Also why did Zack murder the Planet's Goddess in CC.
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Scalding Coffee posted:Did Eiko grow up and take over the world, creating the Eikon Empire or something? Almost all of the names in FFXIV are callbacks to the previous games.
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