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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, generally any time in a game you seem to be slowed down for no real reason it is because the game is loading in the background. You start to notice it a whole ton once you're aware of it but from what I understand people absolutely prefer "crawling through a crack" to an actual load screen wherever possible. While some areas are that, some aren't, and just seem pointless. Like that little dirt arena in the slums where you have a few story fights requires you to crawl under stuff. And in some cases I feel like they're doing it to have a chance for focusing the player on dialogue, which would otherwise become background noise if you're in a fight or running around as fast as possible.
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# ¿ May 20, 2020 23:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:40 |
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Agents are GO! posted:No actually President Shinra was there, playing out some weird royalty/prophecy fetish. I do miss that, because it hinted at Sephiroth and Jenova and the Promised Land while playing the creepy music. A good "something's not right here" moment that made you wonder about larger implications for the future. Also, there apparently was a scene cut from the original game that featured Palmer at the Honey Bee: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Honey_Bee_Inn_(Final_Fantasy_VII) (under dummied content) https://youtu.be/058JQUM3t6s?t=221 Arkage fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 21, 2020 |
# ¿ May 21, 2020 21:25 |
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Captain Invictus posted:I've just kinda been having this on loop in the background while I've been cleaning, it's great cleaning music Lol I hated the monkeybars. Talk about a PS1 mechanic.
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 16:04 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 16:04 |
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I died twice to Hell House on hard, the second time I didn’t see him spawn the tonberries and they killed Aerith then one used that stunning move on Cloud while the other knifed him. Lasted all of thirty seconds and I died laughing. Yep, this happened to me as well. Made me switch it up to Blizzaga+magnify to instantly destroy them when they spawned.
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# ¿ May 24, 2020 12:47 |
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Levantine posted:For the ending (spoiling for posterity) and the Whispers: Metatextually, I kind of read the Whispers as the manifestations of vocal fans that require the Remake and its story to be a certain way. The ones who complain about changes, or characters, or whatever. I felt like Nomura was saying "You're the real enemy of my creative process", since he has been on record of saying the remake was never really his idea in the first place. I liked the idea of the final conflict being the villanized version of a player just like that, controlling 3 mis-remembered versions of the three main heroes (Cloud, Barret and Tifa) protecting their own future/past existence who you defeat to open the game up to any story possibility. The idea that you're actively destroying nostalgia was a fun one for me, if I'm being honest. Good to see someone get into the remake who wasn't sold on the original. Also a FYI concerning the end game trio fight: Those three were confirmed via the Ultimania to be the three Sephiroth manifestations from Advent Children. I originally thought they represented the three main heroes too but they don't. Fun fact, their summoning Bahamut is also the same in AC, where they summon Bahamut to fight Cloud & friends. It ties into this remake version of Sephiroth knowing the future, and wanting to change it. His AC incarnations lost just like he did, and he knows it, which is why he wants to kill the current timeline as much as the main party (since Meteor still got summoned and killed tons of people, as did geostigma in AC). Since both the good guys and bad guys didn't have a clear cut win they both want to change that. The AC are fighting for their future existence in this context rather than future incarnations of Cloud/Barret/Tifa.
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# ¿ May 24, 2020 15:05 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:https://music.apple.com/us/album/final-fantasy-vii-remake-original-soundtrack/1513522478 It has everything except the last disc in the physical edition, which has the radio tunes you can collect.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 02:22 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I now no longer see the soundtrack on Apple Music or Spotify not sure if it’s just me I was able to buy through Apple store on my iphone no issue.
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# ¿ May 28, 2020 18:45 |
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I found the part in his video where he's talking about the treasure chests pretty funny. Where he's literally following the trail of Jenova blood and about to do some huge story moments, but feels compelled to repeatedly walk off in the wrong direction to see if there's treasure chests because it's irresistible.
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# ¿ May 29, 2020 20:49 |
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DeathChicken posted:I gave up on Bloodborne after a prolonged fight with Blood Starved Beast, where I got it down to a fraction of health using a lot of clever movement, lucky parries and most of my items, then it went into a one hit kill head chomp and I died anyway. Yea that was the hardest boss for me. I think I ended up summoning someone to get through it.
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2020 20:48 |
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DarkLich posted:In summary, he only made sense as a villain in this game if you were familiar with the original game. If you come at it from a first time player perspective, Seph does clarify that he killed Cloud's mom at some point in the past, giving him an automatic villain status. But yes much of his presence is playing off the context of whispers and timeline preservation, which specifically rewards those who played the OG. Sindai posted:Remake's version of Wall Market is very different from the original. It was actually about as bad as you might expect of a 90s game which is why it was almost completely changed. I liked the changes, except for the new music which is loving horrendous.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2020 23:42 |
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Yes I’m talking specifically about the wall market song and it’s variations. Probably the worst song in the game IMO. Simplistic baby melody, off-pitch sliding nonsense. The rest of the new stuff was good to great.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2020 18:18 |
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:uhm, guys. The sad thing is that I didn't even eat the Crunch bars that I bought. I forgot about them and then had to throw them out.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2020 19:58 |
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Schwartzcough posted:Candy Bars take like 30 years to go bad. They melted
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 17:54 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I started hard mode but didn't finish it, I could be tempted once I have a PS5. You know, if I can ever get one. Honestly might as well wait for the re-release on PS5 too. Will be epic with actually good texturing everywhere & 60FPS.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2020 21:10 |
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Mulva posted:Her name is earth, that's the reference, she speaks for the planet and she's called earth. It's poetical and poo poo. Her name is earth, thath the referenth, thee thpeakth for the planet and thee's called earth. Ith poetical and thit. (Even Tim Rogers says Aeris is better)
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2020 19:35 |
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Blockhouse posted:Anyone genuinely devoting time and energy to Aeris in the year 2020 is extremely old TLDR "Ok BoOmEr."
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 06:04 |
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CottonWolf posted:Did you know that Cloud wasn't a mopey sad boy in the original? He was more like he is in the remake! Yep if I recall correctly the entire Mr T persona was a product of the translator, not the actual script.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2020 20:07 |
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Still the exclusivity deal wouldn't hold up an official PS5 release. Meh. Maybe they're waiting to announce all the new releases at once as I imagine there will be PC/PS5/XboneX/S/X ports.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 22:12 |
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Jetrauben posted:I don't really think so at all. It is not softening to go from the generic ecofash "complex industrial human society is inherently a disease upon the planet and must be purged" to "the problem is capitalism, incentivizing rapacious energy and ecological policy while leaving people to suffer and die in endless pursuit of ultimately empty profit." I feel like you're reading too much into the narrative for what are personally held political beliefs you hope get vindicated in the game. Especially so in claiming that those who appreciate the original narrative are essentially embracing generic teenage contrarian garbage. I can just as easily claim your socialist utopia framing is regurgitated leftist twitter teenage contrarianism. More specifically, the OG humanized workers of Shinra from the start: Cloud, Reeve, Zack (likely more). And the people in the slums or poor towns were never characterized as somehow not worth saving/"deeply lovely," either. I truly have no idea how you got this theme out of the original game. The reason so many people "died out" at the end of the game was because the lifestream needed more spirit energy to overcome Meteor, as its reserves had been continually depleted through the creation of Mako energy/materia. Not because "humans have been lovely always, time to get rid of them." The OG makes clear that forcefully extracting and converting the life stream into electricity *is* bad. This is not oil, despite the similarities. Spirit energy is literally the souls of all living things on the planet. Bugenhagen says this process of energy creation means "All living things are being used up and thrown away." The creation and use of Mako energy is inherent unethical, regardless if it gives people electricity. The prosperity and abundance of modern Gaia technology is literally thanks to chewing up and destroying the life force of the planet.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 22:11 |
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Jetrauben posted:I think I'm not being clear here. I don't think capitalism is as strong of a theme as you're claiming i.e. the One True Theme. I'd argue power is Shinra's motivating force, as they are also the main military force in the world and just got out of a conflict with Wutai. Mako reactors give them power, wars give them power, money gives them power. I think a stronger case could be made that the evils of Shinra represent the dystopian future of a monolithic corpogovernment controlling nearly every aspect of society through their luck of monopolizing a new technology (mako processing). And again you seem to be sidestepping the fact that industrial civilization in Gaia is entirely dependent upon Mako energy. While electricity is good, grinding up soul energy to produce electricity is bad, period. I do not recall the game asking the question of how to build a modern society (and its energy-driven conveniences) without Mako energy, as I don't think an alternative energy source even exists in this world. If you can point out where that happens I'd be interested to know. Schwartzcough posted:I mean, Bugenhagen probably comes as close to a mouthpiece for the devs as the game has vis-a-vis the game's messages and what philosophical points the audience should be considering. This is another important point here: the Planet is the arbiter of what happens with humanity. The Bugenhagen quote is hardly what I'd call teenage anarchoprimitivist edginess: "It is up to the planet to decide. What is best for the planet. What is bad for the planet. All that is bad will disappear. That is all. Ho Ho Hooo. I wonder which we humans are?" These are questions worth pondering even in our world, considering the exponentially larger amount of damage we've done to the planet even relative to the fictional world of FF7. Hell, if our Planet was a sentient being that was about to throw humanity into the good or bad bin, does anybody really think it's that simple of a question to say "humanity gud duh." I don't, which is probably why the narrative of FF7 connected pretty strongly with me. Arkage fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 16:19 |
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Right, so coal exists, but again I don't recall the Remake ever asking how they could build a modern society without mako energy. It has been the defacto driving force of industrialization in this world, and there is no known alternative to the levels of energy it provides to the populace regardless if hydro or solar might later be discovered to exist. I.E. they can't "switch" everything over to a green energy source if they haven't yet discovered it. Hell, we've discovered it and we *still* refuse to switch. My main point being: to say the Remake is explicitly defending modern industrialism in contrast to the OG is a substantial misinterpretation of its actual message. It is saying industrialization provides both good and bad things for humans, that the energy source driving it has been largely unethical, and that humanity may or may not be judged a positive force upon the planet. These were interesting themes in the OG, I don't see any real substantial change from them in the remake.
Arkage fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 16:52 |
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SlimGoodbody posted:Gonna pipe in and say that Mako isn't necessarily just a metaphor for fossil fuels. It's a metaphor for the way that disposable lower classes are treated by multinational capital. You grind up living souls to create artificial abundance, and it feels great to have those comforts if you're middle class or above and don't mind ignoring that electricity is souls aka your affordable chocolate was harvested by literal child slaves who are worked to death by Nestle. Shinra is the concept of exploitative and extractive capitalism, Mako is the concept of burning through disposable human lives and other irreplaceable resources. The video of the Cetra living in harmony with Gaia was a PR video produced by Shinra, not necessarily reality, and it's completely unclear how the values or technology of Cetra culture map onto what is a fairly stereotypical western industrial "advanced civilization" path represented by Midgar/Shinra. Cetra didn't industrialize in nearly the way Shinra did, if it can even be called that, so whether or not the game is defending 'industrialization' remains vague until we really dig down into what we mean by the word. Places like Cosmo Canyon seem to be getting along just fine without it, and it's where Bugenhagen, the closest we have to a "prophet" of the FF7 mythos, chose to live. Also, one can sit atop corporate authority and control the means of production guarding it with state violence, without requiring a capitalistic framework. One is not dependent upon the other, and in fact is close to the opposite, as the government regulating a utility through force is creating a false marketplace and broadly anti-capitalistic, if we're just talking in terms of capitalism vs communism. It seems clear to me that when Shinra shifted from privately-held-utility company to government-entity, it moved beyond the "exploit/extract capital" paradigm and into an "accrue power by all means" system, hence willing to have what appears to be a costly 9 year war with Wutai over what amounted to a few more reactors, and destroying an entire Midgar plate costing them tons of money (just in hypothetical taxes/workforce) just to try to wipe out Avalanche & push propoganda. The dialogue that I can remember from Remake and OG want the juxtapositions between industrialization benefits, energy consumption, resource extraction, planetary suffering, and the general ethical nature of mankind (in Gaia) to be grey areas, because it makes it more interesting. And while Gold Saucer/Midgar are the obvious examples of "capitalism bad," it still remains a backseat theme to the other things I find more interesting. Arkage fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 23, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 23, 2020 00:53 |
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Fraction Jackson posted:Shinra does the same with propaganda, making people believe killing the planet is actually for their benefit. The remake definitely hammers that point home. I believe under our current paradigm of what 'industrial society' means, it is inescapable that we destroy the environment for our benefit. Industrial farming, meat production, materials we mine or chop down to use in vast, vast quantities, constant new housing and destruction of wilderness, multitudes of factories to mass produce said goods in the millions and billions (regardless of varying degrees of "ethical" factories), trash heaps continually growing current sitting at 2.2 billion tons per year, comprised almost entirely of non-bio-degradable materials, etc. Shinra's propaganda works well enough because it is, to an extent, true. In the paradigm of industrialization, the destruction of the planet/environment is inevitable and directly linked with how much convenience and abundance a society wants. Arkage fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Dec 23, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 23, 2020 23:44 |
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.resetera.com/threads/np...-charts.361915/ Would've probably been 1st if it had a simultaneous release on PC&Xbox as well.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2021 23:22 |
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Sapozhnik posted:There's a really ham fisted character arc with Hope and Snow that should have been resolved within an hour or two instead of dragging out for practically the entire game and even then the characters in that arc don't really react in any interesting or satisfying way. Goddamn remembering how dragged out that storyline was raises by blood pressure. It's like the sophistication of a story written by a 5 years old, stretched out over 40 hours. "boy mad. mad boy mad! boy yell at man! man sad. boy and man sad together. but dey fight 4 future! da end."
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2021 03:51 |
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While FFXIII was confusing, it still doesn't touch the monstrosity that is Kingdom Hearts.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2021 17:30 |
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cock hero flux posted:It's more along the lines of: You did a good summary. Now do XIII-2 and Lightning Returns
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2021 17:08 |
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This talk around who the "main characters" are reminds me of an NPR podcast I listened to a while back (https://www.thisamericanlife.org/679/transcript) that was making GBS threads on the videogame 'damsel in distress' thing, and brought up FF7 as a trope, framing it as, when damsel Aerith dies it propels the rest of the group to save the world. It was a clearly lovely take by someone who didn't know the details of the plot, as it essentially glosses over the fact that Aerith intentionally leaves the group to go save the world by herself, and by and large succeeds in doing so. Anyway it reminded me of it since the person was clearly framing Aerith as an unimportant "1-dimensional" plot device with "no personality" rather than a main character who has her own freewill and plan to save the world.
Arkage fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jan 21, 2021 |
# ¿ Jan 21, 2021 19:56 |
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Bleck posted:Maybe it's just that I still haven't gotten to the mythical MMO part of XIV towards the end where it Actually Gets Good No Dude I Swear It Gets Better but 250 hours of plowing through the plot of FFXIV and the first expansion and that game still literally puts me to sleep. It is not in any way shape or form something I would describe as A Challenge. I mean that's generally the nature of an MMO. Playing as a particular class with a particular set of moves for 250+ hours just isn't going to stay interesting compared to the movesets/skill trees of other non-MMO games that can afford more freedom.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2021 22:19 |
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Lmao this quote https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1355306349920309248?s=20
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2021 05:12 |
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RareAcumen posted:Too much Wall Market, Roche was pointless filler, Jesse, Biggs and Wedge suck up way too much of the game's plot time, Sephiroth shouldn't have appeared for another three games, Hardedge shouldn't have been available so early and where the gently caress is Tifa's slot macine Limit Break? That is not the consensus around here. Also Wall Market is great except for that new lovely music they have for it.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2021 02:19 |
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I kind of want to kill myself everytime I hear the phrase dilly dally shilly shally.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2021 19:15 |
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Moola posted:As a teen I ONLY watched Advent Children on Japanese with subs. So thank you for bringing these memories back Let's mosey is great. Nonsense baby words are not.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2021 03:04 |
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Gaius Marius posted:I didn't like Roche and I'm tired of pretending I did. Dude added nothing to the game and Jessie's whole explosives storyline felt like filler. The best part of Roche was his theme song. One of the best new tracks in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwHaiB9-Too
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2021 17:41 |
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Considering that they did well enough integrating advent children into the Remake in a non-hokey-stupid way, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for having a Dirge character in there. And while I'm lucky and have a PS5 I really just wish this would come to PC
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 00:53 |
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/dumbcerb/status/1254166260637749248?s=21 OK that honestly made me laugh out loud.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 01:04 |
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Also Crises Core's art style was fine, making it chibi-ish is bleh. Just port over the original game for gods sake.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 01:28 |
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According to an interview Weiss is just a VR boss fight for Yuffie. Also since they're introducing Yuffie in Midgar area who wants to bet she steals your poo poo at the beginning of Remake #2
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 01:36 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 12:40 |
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stev posted:It's been nearly a year and I still can't get over the Wall Market theme. The new one or old one? Because the new one belongs in a trash can.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2021 02:20 |