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look him in the eye when I aggressively say "NAH SORRY"
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:50 |
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 01:08 |
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Arm them.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:50 |
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Anyone fucks w this thread while Burt sleeps gets an equal probe. I’m sleeping a lot btw Make jokes whatever, I’m tired of goons being mean to goons is all
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:54 |
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Reach in your back pocket like you're gonna take out your wallet for some money but pull out a single White Castle hamburger and give it to them
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:55 |
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Colonel Cancer posted:Arm them.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:56 |
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Tom Gorman posted:Reach in your back pocket like you're gonna take out your wallet for some money but pull out a single White Castle hamburger and give it to them They're called sliders because they slide in and then they slide out
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:57 |
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Burt Sexual posted:I’m sleeping a lot btw like a bum!!!!
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 06:57 |
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Burt Sexual posted:What’s this based on? The statistics of mental health treatment and the ambiguities of the term "mental health". I'm not knocking it per se, if it works it works but it's kind of a generic cure-all sentiment
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:02 |
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Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because they're crazy is itself insulting. Unless they have a really good sense of humor
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:06 |
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give them psychedelics
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:10 |
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Relayer posted:Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because they're crazy is itself insulting. Unless they have a really good sense of humor Implying that those suffering from mental illness are "crazy" is ableist bullshit. People suffering from mental illness are no different from others dealing with chronic pain. It's an issue that can be treated in many cases, but the problem is often that mental health care is inaccessible or underfunded in many areas.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:11 |
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Relayer posted:The statistics of mental health treatment and the ambiguities of the term "mental health". I'm not knocking it per se, if it works it works but it's kind of a generic cure-all sentiment Uh what? Relayer posted:Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because they're crazy is itself insulting. Unless they have a really good sense of humor Who said that itt?
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:12 |
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Chinatown posted:my rule is to never give money. if asked to buy food ill take them up on that. but never EVER actual money. it will never end up somewhere productive for them. If you give a homeless person food, you've given them a meal for the day. If you give them money, you've potentially given them meals for multiple days depending on what they have access to. If your first response is "I don't want to give them money, they'll spend it on alcohol and lottery tickets", you are part of the problem, you have no way to tell if they fit into that stereotype at a glance. Being homeless doesn't magically make you completely irrational with your money.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:12 |
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CJacobs posted:If you give a homeless person food, you've given them a meal for the day. If you give them money, you've potentially given them meals for multiple days depending on what they have access to. If your first response is "I don't want to give them money, they'll spend it on alcohol and lottery tickets", you are part of the problem, you have no way to tell if they fit into that stereotype at a glance. Being homeless doesn't magically make you completely irrational with your money.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:14 |
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Business idea: cum in a bum
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:24 |
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nextlevelstart posted:Business idea: cum in a bum NIMBY (Nut in my bum? yes!)
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:27 |
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btw, you're piloting the program nextlevelstart.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:29 |
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Lotta the homeless we gave stuff were just super rad people too. They'd always give us a heads up on where people needed help, or if there were cops lurking around and more than once they gave us stuff to hand out. One time a guy gave us this really nice cooler bag with built in speakers and stuff that I assume he stole just cause he figured we'd put it to better use than whatever he'd get trying to flog it on the street. Def a lot of mentally ill people but a lot of people are just old or sick or queer and had no support structure when that One Bad Day hit and now they live in a park trying to not die. Giving folks money is good cause they know what they need better than you do when it gets down to it. Frankly being homeless is such a massive nightmare of horrors if they wanna get high i couldn't care less. I spent my weekends blazed, why would I judge someone for doing the same thing.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:29 |
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I hear the prisons and workhouses are still in their useful course, though there's nothing like a decrease of the surplus population
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:30 |
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Introduce them to jihad
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:34 |
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Relayer posted:Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because they're crazy is itself insulting. Unless they have a really good sense of humor Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because of mental problems is loving insane too
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:39 |
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Relayer posted:Insinuating that homeless people are just homeless because they're crazy is itself insulting. Unless they have a really good sense of humor It's not a blanket that covers all homeless, but I can tell you 100% a good portion of people that are homeless are there at least partly for mental health reasons and could actually get help if America gave a gently caress and provided healthcare to it's citizens. Not too many end up homeless just because of mental health issues, but it sure does help keep them there. I say all that as someone who struggles with depression and spent multiple years homeless in Las Vegas. Realistically though, there's not much you can really do to help a homeless guy out. A few bucks is great, but you'd be naive to think it's likely going anywhere useful. Sure maybe it's gonna go to buying some food. But more than likely it's gonna go to drugs, alcohol, or to the casino / scratch tickets. I'd also say it's pretty unlikely someone standing in the median of an intersection would not know the resources available. Although obviously not at 11PM at night, those spots can be pretty competitive if you live in an area with a homeless / druggie population...
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:48 |
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Give them money. Donate to shelters and outreach centers. That's about all anyone can do on their own unless you wanna make a bunch of little care kits with toiletries (razors, soap, deodorant, tampons, toothbrush, toilet paper, etc) and hand those out at the stop lights.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:50 |
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CJacobs posted:If you give them money, you've potentially given them meals for multiple days depending on what they have access to. If your first response is "I don't want to give them money, they'll spend it on alcohol and lottery tickets", you are part of the problem. What metro area are you living in where you are constantly giving cash to homeless people and are seeing a change in the area, or the homeless themselves?
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 07:57 |
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Chinatown posted:To organizations yes. To homeless individuals, absolutely not. Not if you give them $250000 for a house, then they’re not homeless anymore. It’s simple mathematics.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 08:01 |
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dracky posted:I hear the prisons and workhouses are still in their useful course, though there's nothing like a decrease of the surplus population I prefer the 1951 version.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 08:11 |
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Burt Sexual posted:Serious question, I really don’t know. Is homelessness an issue in universal care countries? I’d imagine yes, but to a lesser degree. Per capita and all. Us is huge. Has a diverse climate, etc. Yes. Estimated 5500 people in a country of 5,5 million here. Some statistics fuckery is assumed so the real number is probably higher. Not as bad as the US apparently (wikipedia) but still pretty hosed up
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 08:21 |
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A few people have said that giving people healthcare for mental health issues would be a big help. And it might help but that's missing the big picture. The US is a country where people can be completely ruined by medical bills (which are the number one cause of bankruptcy here). To people in other developed countries this is seen as completely insane. Because it is. People are simply priced out of dignity and human rights. When this is the system we have you're inevitably going to end up with a crisis like this.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 08:34 |
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Treat them with humanity and kindness. They are your brothers and sisters. Just listen to them.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 08:57 |
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CPL593H posted:A few people have said that giving people healthcare for mental health issues would be a big help. And it might help but that's missing the big picture. The US is a country where people can be completely ruined by medical bills (which are the number one cause of bankruptcy here). To people in other developed countries this is seen as completely insane. Because it is. People are simply priced out of dignity and human rights. When this is the system we have you're inevitably going to end up with a crisis like this. Yeah you have to get them to the point where they aren’t too crazy to live inside a structure.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:02 |
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if a homeless guy asks for help and you have a spare couple of bucks to give, you should. what happens after that is neither here nor there, if he wants to spend it on something to take the edge off his bleak existence then who are you to judge him for it. At the micro level, this is just another human throwing themselves on your mercy, and saying "hmm yes but will this really change anything? what about the big picture here???" is dismissing the fact that in that moment you had the power to help and chose not to.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:05 |
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Imagine being homeless and having the president poo poo on you constantly With twitter
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:14 |
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Chinatown posted:To organizations yes. To homeless individuals, absolutely not. You are not smarter then two or three entire organizations dedicated to helping the homeless who have done several studies, at least one of which was decades long. Giving straight up no strings attached cash to homeless people has consistently the best results in improving their quality of life. Like, tests were done. People with clipboards and very serious glasses checked and rechecked the facts. We got the answer right here on this piece of paper. Like I'd probably agree with you on gut reaction if this came up abut a decade ago but again, the multi-year long studies, they happened.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:28 |
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do you ever think the homeless became homeless because they gave away all their money to earlier homeless
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:32 |
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Whitenoise Poster posted:You are not smarter then two or three entire organizations dedicated to helping the homeless who have done several studies, at least one of which was decades long. Giving straight up no strings attached cash to homeless people has consistently the best results in improving their quality of life. The whole thing everyone loves to say about "DRUGS OR BOOZE WITH MY MONEEEEEEEY!!!" is just more crap that gets spread around because it makes it easier to dismiss panhandlers as a blight on society rather than desperate people who literally have to beg to live. And because people are often selfish and spiteful and they always need someone worse off than them to look down upon. How many people who bitch about this probably spend their own money on drugs or booze anyway? Hell if I give money to a homeless guy and he really does use it to get shitfaced I don't loving care, his life is miserable and if that's all he's got then that's all he's got. It's worth taking the chance either way because that's money someone can use to stay alive.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 09:57 |
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Depending on where you live, weather conditions for the homeless can be deadly, depending on time of year. Around here, many homeless spange for a place to stay the night and a shower. During Fall/Winter it is easy to appreciate how difficult their situation is. Realistically, I think the best we can do is strive to end the origins of homelessness, while also creating more reliable services for them.
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 10:19 |
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Being poor is expensive as gently caress
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 10:27 |
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Repurpose them into protein drinks
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 10:31 |
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I bet Three Olives could shed some light on this topic
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 10:32 |
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I give them pocket cash. I was just going to buy drugs and alcohol with it
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# ? Dec 30, 2019 10:47 |