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the_enduser
May 1, 2006

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Y'all just mad he casted a black dude as the lead, you racists!!

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Fucked-Up Little Dog
Aug 26, 2008

Posting live from the nightmare future of Web 3.0

Scratchmo

PostNouveau posted:

Good ranting here but the sound loving sucks for something "polished". Mics fuzz out every time they raise their voices.

It's also horribly framed in a way that makes me feel uncomfortable. The 3/4 reverse shots with them centre frame looking ahead at someone never in frame doesn't match with the angles they're sat at and it gets worse when they look directly into the camera. I hate how this feels.



Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018


Hackers film 1995 posted:

i love that dumb goddamn movie

Post/AV combo.

I feel like it got just enough things right to make the things it got wrong comical and not terrible, turning the whole thing into charmingly idiotic schlock. Keanu is Keanu, Dizzy from Starship Troopers is a fine Molly Millions, the whole "the Yakuza are after us!" is so 80s retro.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Yams Fan

piratepilates posted:

I mean the cut and everything will still be garbage, the movie was rotten to the core and jared leto's joker is off-putting

BUT

something really weird went on with that movie and I (as someone who saw suicide squad in theatres when it opened and didn't care for it at all) would be interested in seeing what the heck the original vision of that movie and that joker was.
I honestly don't think there was an original vision, I think they started shooting and tried to find the movie in the edit

but yeah at the very least it went through multiple serious revisions and reshoots before the chopped together day-glo mess with old top 40 songs that released to theaters

I think my preferred outcome would be a Hearts of Darkness/Lost Soul/Electric Boogaloo/Death of Superman Lives-style documentary about the making of
just show us the whole bloody mess

I can just picture the uncomfortable glances between people on set who can tell jared leto sucks but don't want to be the one to say it because somebody at the studio thinks this accidental oscar winner's chuuni hot topic bullshit is going to create the buzz that makes the movie. watching it blossom into a nothing performance that ends up almost completely cut from the film is probably loving hilarious

there's probably too much hollywood power brokering tied up to get a really honest version though
like I'm sure Will Smith is the reason that his character is a family man, and they'd never be able to be honest about the movie gradually melting into an edgy guardians of the galaxy rip-off

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011



There's a difference between being a joyless cynic and not condoning terrible, pandering trash. Because there really is a whole bunch of stuff out there, new and old, that isn't trash.

And I mean that seriously. You can and should be critical of the state of the world and how cinema and other art forms have been developing, but if you end up with that "everything sucks and is overrated, we are living in the darkest timeline" attitude I think you need to try to get a different perspective on things, because it isn't going to do you any good.

PooInAnAlleyway
Feb 12, 2016

...and then the cage comes down.


Cubone posted:

I honestly don't think there was an original vision, I think they started shooting and tried to find the movie in the edit

It massively came across while watching it that it was originally shot as a back-to-back trilogy but some smooth-brained executive decision was made when ~80% of the trilogy was shot that shitcanned most of the already shot material, and forced the editors to shoehorn everything into one movie for some godforsaken reason. Despite there being some genuine hype for the movie and people being actually pretty jazzed about it upon the reveal of its initial promotional bits and pieces, clearly someone at DC or WB felt that the characters and/or plot wouldn't hold up for a trilogy, or the actors' contracts didn't line up with them all being attached to 3 films, or whatever, but the point is that someone made the fuckywucky decision somewhere along the line to force 3 movies worth of material into one thing, and....we got what we got.

TROS felt the exact same, but I really don't want us to talk about St*r W*rs again ITT. Ever.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Cubone posted:

I honestly don't think there was an original vision, I think they started shooting and tried to find the movie in the edit

but yeah at the very least it went through multiple serious revisions and reshoots before the chopped together day-glo mess with old top 40 songs that released to theaters

I think my preferred outcome would be a Hearts of Darkness/Lost Soul/Electric Boogaloo/Death of Superman Lives-style documentary about the making of
just show us the whole bloody mess

I can just picture the uncomfortable glances between people on set who can tell jared leto sucks but don't want to be the one to say it because somebody at the studio thinks this accidental oscar winner's chuuni hot topic bullshit is going to create the buzz that makes the movie. watching it blossom into a nothing performance that ends up almost completely cut from the film is probably loving hilarious

there's probably too much hollywood power brokering tied up to get a really honest version though
like I'm sure Will Smith is the reason that his character is a family man, and they'd never be able to be honest about the movie gradually melting into an edgy guardians of the galaxy rip-off

Actually in the comic a big part of will Smith's characters motivation is his family. Haven't seen SS to see if that matches up but it's a valid take on the source material.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Yams Fan

PooInAnAlleyway posted:

Despite there being some genuine hype for the movie and people being actually pretty jazzed about it upon the reveal of its initial promotional bits and pieces,
that's not how I remember it

the only things I remember about when it was in preproduction were:
1) people laughing at joker's tattoos
2) jared leto sending used condoms and dead animals to the cast to ~get inside the joker's mindset~ and his castmates being like "yeah he changed the background on my phone, it's uh... terrifying?"
3) the extremely dour-looking, muddy cast photo that goons photoshopped to hell and back
4) all of the promotional material suddenly glowing neon green and pink when the trailer set to bohemian rhapsody dropped and it was the only thing to get a positive response so far

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020


Well let's hope somebody with money finally get hold of the right of Neuromancer and make a movie before Keanu Reeves die and cast him as Wintermute or sth.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

Why god?



Grimey Drawer

Cubone posted:

4) all of the promotional material suddenly glowing neon green and pink when the trailer set to bohemian rhapsody dropped and it was the only thing to get a positive response so far

Didn't they completely recut the movie because the trailer was received so well? They let the trailer editors, who were trailer specialists and didn't edit movies, do the whole movie.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010



I actually know the guy who edited suicide squad, as he's my four year old nephew. He cut the film on his iPad using iMovie. I am not proud of him.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!


PostNouveau posted:

Didn't they completely recut the movie because the trailer was received so well? They let the trailer editors, who were trailer specialists and didn't edit movies, do the whole movie.

Yup.

I think it's 1 of 3 edits the studio made.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Yams Fan

Scaramouche posted:

Actually in the comic a big part of will Smith's characters motivation is his family. Haven't seen SS to see if that matches up but it's a valid take on the source material.

I haven't kept up with DC since flashpoint but if you're talking about eddie, it's not that, and if you're talking about zoe, it's not really that either. the pathos is just completely wrong

iirc in the comics he kind of used his double life to act as a guardian angel for zoe, taking out criminals to clean up the neighborhood and poo poo, right?

in the movie being a hitman is like his day job that he's trying to keep separate from his life as a family man. it's just how he makes money. he ends up getting arrested because Batman confronts him when he's in his civvies, and he doesn't want to shoot Batman in front of his daughter. then at the end of the film, the way they try to put a bow on his character is he heartwarmingly teaches his daughter math using bullet trajectories, and that's supposed to be like the reconciliation of his two lives

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018


stephenthinkpad posted:

Well let's hope somebody with money finally get hold of the right of Neuromancer and make a movie before Keanu Reeves die and cast him as Wintermute or sth.

Wow, the lack of affect in Keanu would work well for an AI.

But then, he's eternally young and Case is cold-blooded as poo poo, so that works also.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008


https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson...2805135360?s=19

LabyaMynora
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost


Grimey Drawer

Neuromancer will never be made into a movie because every aspect of it has been stolen and used by other media, and it would just come off to audiences as a bonerjam of a bunch of different sci-fi movies that ripped off Neuromancer.

Critics unfamiliar with the source material would call it a "a blend of The Matrix, Johnny Mnemonic, and Max Headroom," or something stupid like that.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.



Jenny is back from the dead and good now

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010



poisonpill posted:

Jenny is back from the dead and good now

Barely one of these statements is correct

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018


LabyaMynora posted:

Neuromancer will never be made into a movie because every aspect of it has been stolen and used by other media, and it would just come off to audiences as a bonerjam of a bunch of different sci-fi movies that ripped off Neuromancer.

Critics unfamiliar with the source material would call it a "a blend of The Matrix, Johnny Mnemonic, and Max Headroom," or something stupid like that.

I think it's still weirder than all of those. I mean, I dimly recall that they end up on an incest space station after being piloted by space Rastas. Nobody is going to confuse that with The Matrix. But I think Inception showed how you can do VR hacking in a way that's not especially corny.

e: Probably better as a miniseries, though, so the characters have time to breathe.

Norton the First fucked around with this message at 22:18 on May 23, 2020

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010



Norton the First posted:

, I dimly recall that they end up on an incest space station after being piloted by space Rastas. Nobody is going to confuse that with The Matrix.

Matrix 2 maybe

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!


im have a huge boner for william gibsons novels including the sprawl trilogy that neuromancer is a part of and would love to see someone even attempt to make them into a film. itd be great to try to keep the retro 80s, grimy feel of it instead of a modern, sleek take. basically just bladerunner but with cheesy cyberspace poo poo.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020


Alibaba Pictures presents Neuromancer by Denis Villeneuve.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018


If it turns out that Dune is in any way filmable, then Neuromancer and the whole Sprawl trilogy are filmable as prestige network shows. Three series, 4-6 episodes each.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN





Lipstick Apathy

Gimme a Snowcrash miniseries or something

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

Sorry guys, I'm just a donut.


I want a prestige tv cooking show. A million dollars an episode, luscious shots of food being being prepared, served, and eaten by beautiful people. It will also include a paper-thin plot with a ďwill they?/wonít they?Ē subplot between some sexy sauciers. Includes a 45 to 75 minute aftershow podcast with more explicit instructions on how to make the food from the show.

Is it clear yet that I havenít eaten today?

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Barely one of these statements is correct

ghost jenny is kind of ok?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

Why god?



Grimey Drawer

Nigmaetcetera posted:

I want a prestige tv cooking show. A million dollars an episode, luscious shots of food being being prepared, served, and eaten by beautiful people. It will also include a paper-thin plot with a ďwill they?/wonít they?Ē subplot between some sexy sauciers. Includes a 45 to 75 minute aftershow podcast with more explicit instructions on how to make the food from the show.

Is it clear yet that I havenít eaten today?

You're, like, 70% describing "Hannibal"

Throw in some murders, and also the food is made of people, and it's "Hannibal"

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

Sorry guys, I'm just a donut.


PostNouveau posted:

You're, like, 70% describing "Hannibal"

Throw in some murders, and also the food is made of people, and it's "Hannibal"

No, I want it to be more like Doogie Howser, M.D. meets Iron Chef, with some sports and a fuckton of product placement added. I donít know of any companies selling human meat right now, at least not for certain. For that reason I want to keep cannibalism out of it, at least until itís profitable.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010



Nigmaetcetera posted:

. I donít know of any companies selling human meat right now,

Give it a few weeks

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020


Norton the First posted:

If it turns out that Dune is in any way filmable, then Neuromancer and the whole Sprawl trilogy are filmable as prestige network shows. Three series, 4-6 episodes each.


Amazon is making a show based on Gibson's new book The Peripheral. I was going to tell you if it's successful Bozo can use his fuckyou money to get the Sprawl trilogy.

But I double checked on the latest news of the show and found out those two hacks from WW are making it.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

Why god?



Grimey Drawer

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Give it a few weeks

Soylent is people!

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!


stephenthinkpad posted:

But I double checked on the latest news of the show and found out those two hacks from WW are making it.

ah gently caress.

the most embarrassing gibson thing that was put onto a screen were those xfiles eps he wrote. oh man

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?



Hahaha we had this on VHS as a kid.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

Sorry guys, I'm just a donut.


PostNouveau posted:

Soylent is people!

I thought soylent was moldy cum with rats swimming in it, injected into unwashed and hastily relabeled ensure bottles, and then sold to software engineers who arenít afraid of Hanta virus and canít be bothered to ďeatĒ because its such a primitive concept .

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Quantum of Phallus posted:

Barely one of these statements is correct

...She's a zombie?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?


Light Gun Man posted:

Gimme a Snowcrash miniseries or something

Film the Raft using a real set/ practical effects and I'm sold

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.


Light Gun Man posted:

Gimme a Snowcrash miniseries or something

Paramount and HBO are trying.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

MAYBE IF MY WEAK NONSENSICAL "BURNS" ARE CONVOLUTED ENOUGH, NOBODY WILL NOTICE THAT IN SPITE OF BEING A CONDESCENDING TAINTSMEAR IN EVERY THREAD I POST IN, I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY INSIGHTFUL OR FUNNY TO SAy.

priznat posted:

I wanna hear if Blood Machines is worth watching but I have no plans on subscribing to another streaming service sorry Shudder.

It's pretty great. I had a digital copy though, not watched via a streaming service.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018


PostNouveau posted:

You're, like, 70% describing "Hannibal"

Throw in some murders, and also the food is made of people, and it's "Hannibal"

By the way, do not binge this show, it gets very boring unless you space out all the portentous/pretentious dialogue about serial killers and their masterpieces.

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Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

Corbin Bernsen eat your heart out


TONIGHT!

In about an hour from this post (8PM CDT, 9PM EDT, 1AM GMT)


@ http://psp-tv/r/byob3k





hope to see you there!

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