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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ah, I didn’t know there was a TV series follow up to Skate Kitchen hitting HBO until a few days ago, and it seems to have the exact same vibe so far.

In a year with a whole bunch of skateboarding movies, Kitchen was my favorite. Hyped.

If there’s enough interest for a thread I’d be happy to talk about working on it. The things we did were very very cool

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Rewatching patriot w my partner who hasn’t seen it. Goddamn it’s such an emotional rollercoaster, just got to the breakfast spread, with the muffins and breakfast breads et cetera.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Rageaholic posted:

It was years ago but then became unlistenable. I switched to We Hate Movies a handful of years ago and never looked back.

Oh god, all the live shows started happening and all the hosts completely lost interest. You can just picture Jason reading emails the whole movie two hours before the tape. Their ad reads are longer than network tv too.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Escobarbarian posted:

The Kimmy Schmidt choose your own adventure thing is on Netflix now. SPOILER: it’s already very funny!!

I worked on it; it’s very good, choose every option.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Neddy Seagoon posted:

And now that a major network's done this once, prepare for a whole lot of others trying the same trick for entire seasons of shows going forward if the ratings don't tank.

Fringe did it 9 years ago. It didn’t catch on.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Bruceski posted:

I don't remember, did Fringe intend to do it that way or was it cobbled in to hide how bad Leonard Nimoy was doing those days?

Cobbled in.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I was going to make a glib remark about shows not filming but they could legitimately put the whole cast and crew in masks

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Oasx posted:

Person of Interest is so good.

I would very much love if an editor took a machete to it and brought it down to a third. Fringe had a similar network bloat but at least brought all of the episodic elements into the fold where poi could go an eight episode stretch spinning wheels but then hide a nugget of very important plot development in there.

Also everyone I know who worked on it has PTSD; they’d put up an 18 hour day at least once a week.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Oasx posted:

Please tell us more, I would love to hear stories from people who worked on it.

I’m fuzzy on a lot of the details (and there’s definitely an enforced code of silence about actor shenanigans) as they were told to me after plenty of 14+ hour days of my own, but the whole thing was tough. NY filming at the time was sparse, compared to the juggernaut it is today; people would be fired and then show up again a few weeks later because it was only Law and Order, a few feature second units, and the first season of Fringe going on and you can’t be choosy when you need bodies. Lots of company moves, where you break all the equipment down, pack it all into a dozen trucks, travel to whatever godforsaken warehouse or waterfront, then unload everything and shoot more, led to hellish hours and nonexistent turnarounds.

I really do mean hellish too; your average filming day now for an action show is ~12 hours for the cast (often less if they’re not in every scene that day) and shooting crew, 13+ for some of the assistant directors, production assistants, and hair/makeup/wardrobe, and 14-15 for transportation (depending on how early actors and background are needed). Sixteen hour shooting days were not uncommon, so you have a lot of that second group pushing 17-21 hours in a day. When poo poo gets behind schedule and your episode needs to air in two weeks, you need to bring in a second or third crew to shoot things in tandem with the main crew. You get fun stuff like actors or props or wardrobe or whatever needing to be in three places at once, often across town and a bunch of very unhappy people running on 3 hours of sleep* but racking up crazy overtime, which makes the producers very upset. The industry term for this is “a loving shitshow”.


*not actors though. They get an extra $1k minimum if they don’t get at least 12 hours between shooting days

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Glenn Howerton was going to bail on Always Sunny but opted not to between seasons. They wrote his character out and everything.

I know so many actors who would kill family members to be a lead on a 14 season show. It’s not even like it actually films in Philly and he was giving up opportunities in LA

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

It’s the kind of show you would use to deprogram someone from laugh tracked sitcoms.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Some of the HBO max originals (including one I was working on) were shut down by corona in the home stretch

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Timby posted:

Still hasn't been renewed, and a Hulu exec said earlier this year that no decisions have been made regarding its future.


Space Force is criminally un-funny.

At least trump getting elected will lead to some great comedy yuk yuk yuk

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Pedro De Heredia posted:

This looks like they still had Boardwalk sets, costumes, and actors under contract so they decided to make a show.

A bunch of the BE sets became the terrific queer dance club house of yes in Brooklyn

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Ugly In The Morning posted:

The low British death count from the V2 is really interesting- the British caught every single German spy that made it over there, and turned a lot of them. They had their double agents feed the Germans false information about where the V2s were landing, so German targeting got worse and worse as the V2 attacks went on.

And if you’re on this tip, look up Juan Pujol García, who ran a Nazi spy ring of more than two dozen fake sources. One of those sources “died” in the line of duty and García got Germany to pay out a pension to his widow

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

PostNouveau posted:

I dunno what the official numbers are, but I know $50,000 don't go too far in NYC.

$50k is fine in the city if you don’t have a kid and don’t mind a roommate or two. 30k is when poo poo gets hairy, but there’s also an explosion of cheap and free things to do as long as you’re not plowing through $18 cocktails and $30 dinners

I had a friend who was paying $250 to sleep on a mattress under a refrigerator, he lives on a boat now.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

The thing that catches me most off guard with subtitles is how quickly they excise swear words, even if they can fit in the box. A nice development I’ve seen in the past couple years is song lyrics being transcribed and good descriptive words for instrumentals, though.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I love when poo poo like “Bonjour!” gets the [Character speaking in impenetrable distant tongue] treatment.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Ugly In The Morning posted:

30 rock is having a reunion special that sounds like the kind of thing 30 rock would make fun of.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/live-feed/30-rock-upfront-special-set-at-nbc-1298712

Wait what?

quote:

Fey's interest in 30 Rock has not died down in the years since the show wrapped. Sources say NBC's forthcoming Ted Danson comedy Mr. Mayor was originally intended to be a 30 Rock spinoff starring Alec Baldwin as the mayor of New York in the series from Fey and Robert Carlock. Baldwin was in extended negotiations for the better part of a year before pulling out. When L.A.-based Danson declined to move to New York for the part, Fey and Carlock reworked the script to set the show on the West Coast — and remove any connections it had to 30 Rock.

drat I wish we got a Parks and Rec that didn’t pull punches about a fuckup Bloomberg/de Blasio hybrid.

And Danson’s in New York all the time too!

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

It’s wild there are still two 30 Rock episodes with the T-slur in them too, def though those wouldn’t outlive the blackface scenes

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Sleeveless posted:

Also how her autobiography spent a lot of time hand-wringing about the beauty industry playing on female insecurity while she does ads for a makeup company. Just the worst neolib instincts of paying lip service while getting fat paychecks to work against equality.

NBC recast her into 30 Rock because she was prettier than Rachel Dratch

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Alhazred posted:

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt had a white woman playing a native american.

That was an idea pitched by the three Native Americans on staff though

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Hughmoris posted:

Been looking for a new show to binge, and I see Person of Interest is available on Netflix now.

Is that show worth watching? I don't know too much about it. The trailers make it seem pretty generic but the reviews seem surprisingly good...

It’s about a season and a half of really great sci-fi buried in five seasons of CBS network procedural. It also likes to bury really important serialization in long, otherwise pointless episodes too.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Arist posted:

By "harm" I'm pretty clearly referring to actual complaints about that content, of which I have heard none. I don't think pre-emptively removing that stuff sans any kind of context is the right approach. Why is removal the first and only option?

It’s easy, cheap, and immediately heads off any publicity and keeps people from digging deeper. Like how there’s still two white-hot T****y-bombs used entirely as perjoratives. TV production is all about cheap and easy solutions like that.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

muscles like this! posted:

Then both of those guys definitely need to be credited better. It isn't like they're doing CG characters who get completely replaced in post, they're on screen all the time.

David Prowse got credits, it’s not like there isn’t precedent. Crediting is one of the most ridiculous arbitrary processes that comes down to producers’ whims in the end.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

It’s not hard for a benevolent civilization to become evil or for an evil rival civilization to acquire the benevolent civilization’s tech. A resource crunch would turn any well-meaning culture to violent desperation.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Googled again to find out if HBO Max figures out anything with Roku or Amazon and now it turns out Peacock is also not going to play ball with them.

70% of the streaming market lol

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

feedmyleg posted:

I'd go ahead and guess that a huge chunk of the Roku crowd has Android phones and can just Chromecast the app to their Roku instead of using a native Roku app. I figure if you have an iPhone you're probably in Apple's environment instead and have an AppleTV.

I have apple devices but a Roku tv which has everything built in except HBO Max

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Ugly In The Morning posted:

NBC is definitely putting on shows soon, I just got an offer for EHS COVID Compliance Specialist for the next 5 months. 10-16 hour days 6 days a week.
E: Do not want the job, because, uh, look at that schedule.

Is that on set? Lol that studios aren’t even pretending to shoot fewer hours when filming is allowed again, despite what any of the materials I’ve seen have said.

6 day weeks rot your soul too, especially when they go late Saturday and start early Monday as they’re wont to do; I’ve had lots of sub 24-hour weekends and don’t do it

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

precision posted:

Anyone who asks you to work 10-16 hours a day, 6 days a week, is an rear end in a top hat no matter how much they're paying

I have something terrible to tell you about TV production my friend

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Khanstant posted:

Been watching The Travellers this weekend and it just struck me how much like Future Man it is.

I’ve been watching it and liking the main plot but all the 21st century side plots are obnoxious. We never spent more than five minutes with the people before they got brain hijacked and the stakes are “the future of humanity” so we have zero reason to want Grant’s marriage to work or whatever when it turns out that maintaining a cover has virtually no bearing on the plot. The only person who understands her role in the 21st is Grace, who gives zero fucks about moody high schoolers

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

^^^^
Also, the world of this show wants you to believe that there’s a decent cure for developmental brain damage, falling out of an airplane trauma, and multi-organ supervirus infection, but not heroin addiction?



Open Source Idiom posted:

Which is particularly ironic given that Grace Day is the only 21st century civilian who gets any significant characterisation before being replaced.

The death of her personality hit me kind of hard, to be honest. I get the stakes involved, but too many of the cast came across as unlikable as a result.


I know!

It’s like anti-Patriot, the show where you desperately want the main character to give up on his likely pointless mission and hang out with the side characters from his fake life.

theflyingexecutive fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 13, 2020

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

zoux posted:

30 Rock would've done a great Quibi arc

They did the bit where Banks made 15-second tv shows for your phone.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

I saw a skywriting ad for Peacock yesterday over Brooklyn. It was a Wednesday before 5pm.

gj

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

feedmyleg posted:

Doesn't every TV made in the past decade have a Chromecast built in?

Mine is Roku and I have a Fire Stick so AT&T and Comcast are telling me to gently caress right off

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Travelers was really bad. A really great premise with just a horrible execution and an unwillingness to change anything about their main characters. It just coasted for three seasons with only a couple tantalizing plot lines and devices to keep you interested. I was so tired after the 3rd revisiting of MacLaren’s wife angrily being suspicious of him or Carly’s baby issues or David being annoying and it never stopped. Ughhhhh

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Look at this bad opinion!

Nope. The only forward momentum the plot had was the introduction of the faction, but their whole reason for existing was always explained but never shown how bad it was to have the Director in charge and they were always brutal and violent for no reason except to signpost that they were the bad guys. Everyone’s 21st century problems were borrrrring and never went anywhere because of the writers’ compulsions to return everything to the status quo.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Travelers i]defenders need to start posting the parts of the show they liked because I’m coming up short besides Grace’s hilarious indifference to her 21st century job and the fact the show ended on a dril tweet:

https://twitter.com/dril/status/457675646970634240?s=21

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

OldSenileGuy posted:

Travelers was fun to watch but thinking about it or trying to make sense of it for even one minute after it was over is pointless because none of it made sense

I suppose the same can be said for a lot of time travel shows

I don’t take issue with poo poo like “memories for the future being stored in unrefrigerated blood bags”, I hated the pacing and that the writers had five or six good ideas and spun that into three seasons of TV. Even Person of Interest understood its campiness after a while, but Travelers kept trying to feed us “Philip is addicted to drugs again” or that exceedingly awful (but blessedly short) “Trevor’s host and best friend were raped” storyline.

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Khanstant posted:

I do admit I'm kind of curious to see how visually it plays out when 0001 turns himself into a machine god and all

Lol, 20 seconds of unshown exposition in the series finale before Grace tells them they can go back in time

Season 3 could’ve been 001 methodically hunts down the team or the team has bigger responsibilities as governments try to work with/control travelers. Both of those plots are shoved into the finale but it’s ok, David gets the focal point of three episodes: he gets shot at the end of one (my fiancée and I were so happy for about 30 seconds) and saves Seattle in the next, before spending yet another episode dying in the magic death mind palace.

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