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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
we all noticed the boots, you're amongst a bunch of broken brains here, it's ok :)

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PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

BLUF: Combat Capabilities Development Command Soldier Center (CCDC SC) is asking all female Soldiers to complete a survey about athletic bras by 30 October 2020 in order to inform Army and AAFES of the requirements of female Soldiers.

As an increasing number of female Soldiers assume combat roles, the emphasis on the acquisition of female specific OCIE and PPE is becoming greater. On June 25, 2020, the 151st Army Uniform Board identified improving the athletic brassieres selection available to Soldiers and Trainees as a priority. In order to allow female Soldiers to define what improvements are needed and to identify the current best performing commercial-off-the-shelf athletic bra, the Combat Capabilities Development Command Soldier Center has built an online survey of questions targeted to gather their needs and preferences for this highly personal item.
The specific objectives of this survey are to better understand the Solders' perspective on functional design elements that impact the overall effectiveness of an athletic brasserie as well as individual and situational factors that influence the levels of support required. These data will be used to directly inform decisions regarding which athletic bra the Army makes available to female Soldiers in the future, either through the Army and Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) or as an issued clothing bag item. Soldier input is integral to the program's success.

We ask that you take 20 minutes out of your day to complete the survey using the provided link below to ensure that the Army provides the best possible athletic bra options moving forward. We also ask all Commanders and Senior NCOs to help us distribute this survey to the largest possible number of female Soldiers to maximize our sample size for the survey and to ensure as many opinions as possible are collected. All surveys must be completed by 30 October 2020 in order for the input to be processed and reported. Thank you for your support in this effort.

https://ccdcsoldiercenter.gov1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5p6jc4yv1QaYd7f


Albert Adams
Soldier Clothing and Configuration Management Team
Combat Capabilities Development Command - Soldier Center
albert.a.adams16.civ@mail.mil
508-206-3067

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Oh, isn't that great. An army dude by the name of Albert gonna tell women what's best for their boobs.

That's so army it hurts.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


it's an amusing email, but it seems like the whole point of it is so that the women can determine what's needed going forward?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



PeterCat posted:

BLUF: Combat Capabilities Development Command Soldier Center (CCDC SC) is asking all female Soldiers to complete a survey about athletic bras by 30 October 2020 in order to inform Army and AAFES of the requirements of female Soldiers.

As an increasing number of female Soldiers assume combat roles, the emphasis on the acquisition of female specific OCIE and PPE is becoming greater. On June 25, 2020, the 151st Army Uniform Board identified improving the athletic brassieres selection available to Soldiers and Trainees as a priority. In order to allow female Soldiers to define what improvements are needed and to identify the current best performing commercial-off-the-shelf athletic bra, the Combat Capabilities Development Command Soldier Center has built an online survey of questions targeted to gather their needs and preferences for this highly personal item.
The specific objectives of this survey are to better understand the Solders' perspective on functional design elements that impact the overall effectiveness of an athletic brasserie as well as individual and situational factors that influence the levels of support required. These data will be used to directly inform decisions regarding which athletic bra the Army makes available to female Soldiers in the future, either through the Army and Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) or as an issued clothing bag item. Soldier input is integral to the program's success.

We ask that you take 20 minutes out of your day to complete the survey using the provided link below to ensure that the Army provides the best possible athletic bra options moving forward. We also ask all Commanders and Senior NCOs to help us distribute this survey to the largest possible number of female Soldiers to maximize our sample size for the survey and to ensure as many opinions as possible are collected. All surveys must be completed by 30 October 2020 in order for the input to be processed and reported. Thank you for your support in this effort.

https://ccdcsoldiercenter.gov1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_5p6jc4yv1QaYd7f


Albert Adams
Soldier Clothing and Configuration Management Team
Combat Capabilities Development Command - Soldier Center
albert.a.adams16.civ@mail.mil
508-206-3067

Step right up people, place your bets! How long do you think it will take for all of these surveys to end up in a dumpster? Can I get an over-under going at 2min? Is there an acknowledgment email that reads like a delete notice? Stay tuned for how badly this fucks up, and remember that nobody wins by being in the army!

e: who wants to take bets on how many porn websites that poor guy’s email is now subscribed to?

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I think it would be pretty quick, the Army is VERY on board with fully integrating women into combat units. Right before I left the Army we had some civilian women come and do private interviews with the women in combat MOS's that we had down in the platoons, the whole series of tasks leading up to those interviews seemed like it definitely has the attention of people high up in the military. Also had some congresswomen come and talk to them.

Considering it's just resourcing a fairly simple piece of clothing from among those that already exist I think the turn around to having these available will probably be fairly fast when compared to most things the military tries to do.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Mustang posted:

Considering it's just resourcing a fairly simple piece of clothing from among those that already exist I think the turn around to having these available will probably be fairly fast when compared to most things the military tries to do.
We can't just go out and buy bras, sir. We need to have boob specs before we can proceed. Six... eight months, tops!

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


Naked Bear posted:

We can't just go out and buy bras, sir. We need to have boob specs before we can proceed. Six... eight months, tops!

I have full faith and confidence, that like the one woman infantry LT I know, there will be at least one shitlord who sabotages this because of fuckstick attitudes towards women. Ask me about getting whistleblower protection and it doing fuckall to stop command fuckery.

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

This wish was granted by Former DILF
army miltwitter is the most self aggrandizing black hole of people eating their own assess, send reply

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

not caring here posted:

Oh, isn't that great. An army dude by the name of Albert gonna tell women what's best for their boobs.

That's so army it hurts.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!
Question for any engineer types out there but does the Army (or any service for that matter) have a system like this fielded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nmQmVeUF_o

Steezo
Jun 16, 2003
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!


Triggs posted:

Question for any engineer types out there but does the Army (or any service for that matter) have a system like this fielded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nmQmVeUF_o

I believe the US Army version is called Privates.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Yeah, it's privates. If they've got those, I never saw it. We weren't setting up triple strand in the middle of a street very often, though. Not sure how that would fare in the middle of the woods.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


https://www.concertinarazorbarbedwire.com

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Supposedly they used something similar around Balad airbase around 06 according to my buddies.


It doesn't really matter, because you still have to use people to set pickets and barbwire to make it to standard.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I think 2 BCTs may be getting a new patch to wear sometime in the not too distant future. They ditched the 2ID profile picture around the time all the protests started.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

I could see them re-flagging the 2nd Division as the 7th. The 7th's HQ was recently re-activated and the Indian Head patch might not be considered PC anymore.

7th


2nd

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
The 2ID HQ is still in Korea, the Stryker brigades at Fort Lewis have fallen under 7ID since it was stood up. I'm also pretty sure neither the 1st nor 2nd BDE that wear the 2ID patch have ever been stationed in Korea or fallen under 2ID HQ.

I got to 2-2 SBCT at the beginning of 2016 and other than the patch we wore there was nothing we did even that was even remotely related to 2ID. I'm not sure exactly when it started but both brigades have been singing the 7ID bayonet song every morning before PT since I got there.

I'm surprised they didn't do it when they reactivated 7ID's HQ.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Both BDEs on Lewis reported to 2ID up until 2013, when we switched to 7th. It was pretty dumb to stand up a whole new command just for them, but it was also super dumb having to get approval from Korea to launch UAVs in NTC. :shrug:

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
loving trigger warning that bayonet song stuff man, jesus. I'd forgotten all about that.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Hooolld your bayonets hiiiiiigh

brains
May 12, 2004

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/11/12/officials-americans-among-7-peacekeepers-killed-in-sinai-helicopter-crash/

quote:

6 Americans among 8 peacekeepers killed in Sinai helicopter crash.

A helicopter belonging to an international peacekeeping force has crashed in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, killing six Americans, according to the Multinational Force and Observers.

“During a routine mission in the vicinity of Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, nine members of the Multinational Force and Observers (MFO) were involved in a helicopter crash,” according to a statement from MFO. “We are deeply saddened to report that eight uniformed MFO members were killed; six U.S. citizens, one French, and one Czech. One U.S. MFO Member survived and was medically evacuated. Names are being withheld pending notification of next of kin.”

gently caress :(

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!
Yeah, the E-5 that was killed was in my battalion on my last deployment. Usually saw that dude walking around and was really happy go lucky and one of the good ones.

One of the many reasons why I decided not to stay in - I had been to too many funeral services for aviators that were killed in training.

Triggs fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Nov 15, 2020

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
Anybody read the Ft Hood report? loving wild.

The first 30 pages or so are methodology, before it gets into the good (read: extremely bad) poo poo.

The most readable and pathetic part is the chapter on CID at Hood.

https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/forthoodreview/2020-12-03_FHIRC_report_redacted.pdf

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
CID couldn't find their own rear end with two hands and a map.

The idiot from CID who interviewed me for their investigation into my wife's death couldn't even loving differentiate pronouns.

McNally fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Dec 9, 2020

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/fort-hood-vanessa-guillen-army-investigation/

quote:

Between 2014 and 2019, an average of 129 felonies were committed annually at Fort Hood, including murder, kidnapping and sexual assault.

That’s a felony every 3 days, if you wanted to keep track :stonklol:

quote:

At Fort Hood, investigators found, emergency officials did not conduct initial investigations until a soldier was missing for over 24 hours. That was the case when Guillén went missing, even though there were immediate indications that her absence was suspicious. Her ID, car keys and other items were found in an arms room where she had been working, but an investigation did not begin immediately.

Ok and that’s enough reading for the morning before I spend the rest of the day mad, thanks ft hood!

Jk one more, this is a nesting doll of of failures, fuckups, neglect, and dereliction of duty.

quote:

“Over the years, those in command at Fort Hood, however, failed to make the connection between the health and safety of the Soldiers and mission readiness. This paradigm of benign neglect was allowed to take root over time at Fort Hood, at the expense of Soldiers, particularly females in combat units.”

Can we bring back Decimation, but for all the officers that were somehow involved?

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Not even at Ft. Hood anymore and that pisses me off. If you're not 15 minutes early to the 15 minutes early we'll do every petty, dickish thing we can to ruin your life. Actually go looking for the soldiers under you? Meh, gently caress it. Give it a day.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Icon Of Sin posted:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/fort-hood-vanessa-guillen-army-investigation/


That’s a felony every 3 days, if you wanted to keep track :stonklol:


Ok and that’s enough reading for the morning before I spend the rest of the day mad, thanks ft hood!

Jk one more, this is a nesting doll of of failures, fuckups, neglect, and dereliction of duty.


Can we bring back Decimation, but for all the officers that were somehow involved?

I mean, executing by firing squad seems appropriate here.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

I mean, executing by firing squad seems appropriate here.

Hanging.

That was the big thing for some (Goerring, IIRC, was the loudest) Nazi at Nuremburg.

Soldiers are shot. Criminals are hanged.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



bulletsponge13 posted:

Hanging.

That was the big thing for some (Goerring, IIRC, was the loudest) Nazi at Nuremburg.

Soldiers are shot. Criminals are hanged.

Who is the trebuchet reserved for? Sling the fuckers a couple of hundred meters into a ravine

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Thump! posted:

Who is the trebuchet reserved for? Sling the fuckers a couple of hundred meters into a ravine
Politicians and people who talk in the theater.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Thump! posted:

Who is the trebuchet reserved for? Sling the fuckers a couple of hundred meters into a ravine

Anyone who changes lanes without indicating.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

Naked Bear posted:

Politicians and people who talk in the theater.

I will never not talk over a bad movie. I'm sorry that all movies are bad.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

A senior NCO's husband came to pick her up on his motorcycle at the HQ.

He's got a nude painting of her on both sides of his bike.

I don't know how to process this, but I'm glad that I'm not in charge of anything anymore.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
I'm not sure what it says about my experience in the Army that I don't find any of that even remotely surprising. There's a lot of cross over between people of walmart and soldiers.

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

Mustang posted:

I'm not sure what it says about my experience in the Army that I don't find any of that even remotely surprising. There's a lot of cross over between people of walmart and soldiers.

What i've noticed is after dealing with people in the emergency department that have meth addictions is:

There were a lot of people in my batallion that I dealt with that were 100% absolutely doing meth.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

I really like how the report was not shy about naming and shaming individual units. Some of the quotes from soldiers were impressive, I'm not used to seeing quotes like that in the public record.

Last time we had this large of an investigation was Tailhook, right?

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

ASAPI posted:

I really like how the report was not shy about naming and shaming individual units. Some of the quotes from soldiers were impressive, I'm not used to seeing quotes like that in the public record.

Last time we had this large of an investigation was Tailhook, right?

Fat Leonard?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

spacetoaster posted:

A senior NCO's husband came to pick her up on his motorcycle at the HQ.

He's got a nude painting of her on both sides of his bike.

I don't know how to process this, but I'm glad that I'm not in charge of anything anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZdHdd88jo

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Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”

Nice and hot piss posted:

What i've noticed is after dealing with people in the emergency department that have meth addictions is:

There were a lot of people in my batallion that I dealt with that were 100% absolutely doing meth.

What surprised me while I was in was that the drugs people were pissing hot for were things other than marijuana, which is obviously legal and easily available here in WA.

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