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the one I'm thinking of that more mocked the Riverdance bandwagoning was CN had a commercial where their executives ordered Dexter (of Dexter's Lab) to do Lord of the Dance because it's the hot new thing. Man, I miss the early CN interstitials and commercials
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Democratic Pirate posted:It’s been weeks and I still have lines from We Don’t Talk About Bruno randomly float through my head. My daughter isn’t even old enough to want to watch it yet either. Same but Surface Pressure. And my kids are old enough to watch it and have been doing so every day.
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Yep. My kids will even sing the backup parts ("Thunder!" "Whoa no!") when one of us takes the lead. All in all this is just an extremely likable movie. Stands up well to repeated viewings. Glad to have it.
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I watched Encanto the other night, and it’s ok. The songs didn’t strike me as much as I thought they would, considering social media going wild for them. That said, I downloaded the album, and they’re much stronger out of the film, probably because they’re not competing with all the visuals. We Don’t Talk About Bruno sounded way different to the tune in my head I’d imagined. Surface Pressure is better though, and maybe also Dos/Two Oruguitas. Abuela is a piece of poo poo and needed more comeuppance as she fostered generations of trauma in all her kids and grandkids. I feel like there’s too many family members, and they all got very little time to shine. Disney’s unwillingness to trim them down makes me think there’s a series planned with them, or more movies where they focus on other people. Camilo, Dolores, and Antonio seem an easy focus. I get the sense the writers have a ton of lore they barely had time to hint at.
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I think "Bruno" really is a brilliant song beyond being catchy, because every verse has a different melody, and yet they all work together when they're layered on top of each other at the end -- even Isabela's (with a few minor adjustments), despite being kind of its own separate theme that's more at home in her own song. The fact that it's not just the same verse over and over keeps it interesting and relistenable, without going so far as to be too hard to follow.
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Never been more irritated by regular rear end folk who don't know anything about animation complaining about how the Cuphead show doesn't "look like the game" and "isn't hand drawn"
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Macaluso posted:Never been more irritated by regular rear end folk who don't know anything about animation complaining about how the Cuphead show doesn't "look like the game" and "isn't hand drawn" Especially frustrating since the new Cuphead show looks so good.
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But making an animated show is so easy! I mean, cartoons are for kids and kids are dumb, so how hard could it be? *Fills out Oscar ballot*
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The_Doctor posted:I watched Encanto the other night, and it’s ok. The songs didn’t strike me as much as I thought they would, considering social media going wild for them. That said, I downloaded the album, and they’re much stronger out of the film, probably because they’re not competing with all the visuals. We Don’t Talk About Bruno sounded way different to the tune in my head I’d imagined. Surface Pressure is better though, and maybe also Dos/Two Oruguitas. The biggest load of bullshit in the movie personally was the proposal - everyone singled out Mirabel as the one who ruined the proposal, but what the gently caress was Pepa's ENTIRE BRANCH doing? If they could have kept their collective mouths shut things wouldn't have gone as badly as they did. Dolores was the root of the problem, but Antonio should have controlled his animals better and Camilo et al should have stopped the gossip train at their own stations. Julieta probably had a huge talking to with Pepa about that, just "Dude, did you think gossiping with me about MY loving daughter would be something I'd just let go? Kind of a dick move." OK, I'll be fair and cut Antonio a little slack. Because he's literally 5. No one else had any such excuse. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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Macaluso posted:Never been more irritated by regular rear end folk who don't know anything about animation complaining about how the Cuphead show doesn't "look like the game" and "isn't hand drawn" Eh. 99.8% of the identity of the cuphead game was having a particular cartoon art style. Making a cartoon then moving away from it just kinda seems like "why have a cuphead cartoon". Like even if it's implausible to make a whole show in consistent 1930 style something like over the garden wall does a ton of scenes where you can feel "this is what 1920s animation would look like moved forward 100 years" where it's carrying the spirit of that type of animation. Even if it is fundamentally done in a modern style. ( The cuphead show might be fine but it just kinda looks animated like spongebob or any other modernish cartoon. Which makes it questionable why it needs to exist. Cuphead wasn't really engaging for a narrative for characters or plot or anything, it was all personality through having very strong animation in a particular style.
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Robindaybird posted:the one I'm thinking of that more mocked the Riverdance bandwagoning was CN had a commercial where their executives ordered Dexter (of Dexter's Lab) to do Lord of the Dance because it's the hot new thing. I still think about this particular one every now and then to this day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nDKkmFe2ZI
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"Cartoons That Never Made It" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnTZdQVk1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlTsNkiKwOI And the "Groovies" ruled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwWw8uWcBO0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lPLIiBgfeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXGxtCDggA Also loved whatever this was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9_TkA9YSdI
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Macaluso posted:Never been more irritated by regular rear end folk who don't know anything about animation complaining about how the Cuphead show doesn't "look like the game" and "isn't hand drawn" Owlofcreamcheese posted:Which makes it questionable why it needs to exist.
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IBroughttheFunk posted:I still think about this particular one every now and then to this day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nDKkmFe2ZI
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A cuphead series does kinda feel like a mistake now that it's real. It is a generic cartoon, by design. Apparently cuphead is wildly popular with the zoomers though, so who knows.
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I still fondly remember the Superfriends one. "All I want is some pants, a decent pair of pants!"
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Data Graham posted:"Cartoons That Never Made It" ALways wished the Korgoth of Barbaria made it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB76i6PWYyM
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Cuphead could have been like the Mario Bros DiC cartoon. It would have been cheaper to make AND given youtube poops all kinda fresh material
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Robindaybird posted:I still fondly remember the Superfriends one. Goddamn, I still quote this in my head every time I hear the word, "pants." Or aloud if my sister's there to appreciate it.
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Robindaybird posted:I still fondly remember the Superfriends one. Solomon Grundy want pants, too!
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FunkyAl posted:Cuphead could have been like the Mario Bros DiC cartoon. It would have been cheaper to make AND given youtube poops all kinda fresh material I know it's a joke but that's a product of a very specific period of animation, where hand-drawn is the norm and few have the budget to be actually good at it. Though they licensed covers of current pop hits for some reason.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I know it's a joke but that's a product of a very specific period of animation, where hand-drawn is the norm and few have the budget to be actually good at it. Though they licensed covers of current pop hits for some reason. The best of all worlds would be like a replicated terry toons version of cuphead. Cheap, but often the same exact animators as era-appropriate Fleischer and Disney. Eh, Luigi? The pop hits make sense! Like betty boop and cab calloway.
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deong posted:ALways wished the Korgoth of Barbaria made it. Wholeheartedly agree. It still stings that that one got passed up. The 'pain you never new existed' sequence still cracks me up.
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FunkyAl posted:The best of all worlds would be like a replicated terry toons version of cuphead. Cheap, but often the same exact animators as era-appropriate Fleischer and Disney. Eh, Luigi? It is tempting to explore exactly how you recreate that specific flavour of fascinatingly bad. Actually, Cuphead and Mugman's voices probably are more meant to be equivalent to the Mario Bros' old Brooklyn accents. 'Double Down' as a catchphrase seems like it might get old real fast, as fitting as it is for a premise where the protagonist is in gambling debt to the Devil, but again, I think that trailer is one of those edited to look as deliberately obnoxious as possible because that's what the kiddies like, right?
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I want to complain specifically about this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYmIRkitnnQ The cartoon tornado and sound effect is all wrong. It's a reference to the wrong kind of animation. Like he is very very specifically referencing minnie the moocher which is a very specific moment in animation with a very specific type of dance animated a very specific way. Then the little spin is way more late warner brothers loony toons type animation with the sound effect and animating fast motion as a dust cloud. like the game itself managed to stick to 20s/30s animation, in style at least. This cartoon just feels like it's not even trying. Like it's not going to be a real actual hand animated cartoon and I get that, but like, in the game they understood what sort of things did or did not fit the style.
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deong posted:ALways wished the Korgoth of Barbaria made it.
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Data Graham posted:"Cartoons That Never Made It" Thanks for sharing! Hell yeah, these were the best. Found some other classics digging around Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfJBOfaBLmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzth7hcueTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f04z4Rmt6s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbaQcWrUOfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqItc1rZGg
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IBroughttheFunk posted:Thanks for sharing! Hell yeah, these were the best. Found some other classics digging around Youtube. Aw man, now these bring back some memories.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Aw man, now these bring back some memories. Oooohh, found a nice compilation that's a mix of several of the above and more - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2rMKuRb44&t=5s. Well, time to go lose nearly a half hour of the day!
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The quotas of tv animation are just not conducive to the type of style they're trying to capture in Cuphead. The designs translate fine, they're low pencil mileage, but you can't get that hand drawn feel the game had without, like, actually doing it by hand instead of toon boom rigs.
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Ccs posted:The quotas of tv animation are just not conducive to the type of style they're trying to capture in Cuphead. The designs translate fine, they're low pencil mileage, but you can't get that hand drawn feel the game had without, like, actually doing it by hand instead of toon boom rigs. Over the garden wall managed to be 1930s esq animation without being actual real 1930s style animation.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Over the garden wall managed to be 1930s esq animation without being actual real 1930s style animation.  Uhh what? Did we watch two different versions of Over the Garden Wall?
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Macaluso posted:
they're probably referring to Greg's dream which did hit the 1930s animation feel
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There were a couple of shots in Over the Garden Wall that Nick Cross personally animated that captured that feel. Every other shot was treated like normal animation production and looked like tv animation, albeit with very nice art direction and mood.
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Macaluso posted:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkNV-0O1ya8 Some of it was really overt but mostly it was that things that were very cartoony happened, but always cartoony like a Fleischer Studios cartoon would be, not cartoony in the way a warner or disney cartoon is. Like over the garden wall used modern animation, but in the tradition of fleischer or other 1930s animation, not like a bugs bunny or mickey cartoon. If something distorted or made a cartoon sound it'd do it like betty boop would instead of like mickey would.
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The sequence with the elephants is actually a lot like a Van Buren Cartoon stylistically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Qy8NMlvh0&list=PL6mBZHANdP4dqK_aw1dEYkJa1ZfbPRrRY&index=2 and manages to be a pretty good likeness because they're both fairly limited animation. Early "limited" animation is way cool, especially from New York.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I want to complain specifically about this scene: I really wonder how it came about Like, the two brothers that headed the development of the game and did all the animation work for it were obsessive about trying to nail the look of Fleischer Studios animations, to the point of going into hard debt just to finish the game with the exact look they wanted. There's just no way I can see them taking something like this lying down unless they were either given a huge pot of gently caress off money or signed a nebulous contract that gave them minimal creative control over the final product.  That's just goddamn Spongebob.
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