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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

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Macaluso posted:

Storks is fantastic and hilarious and no one believes me

It is fantastic and is one of our fave rewatches. I love the rapid fire dialogue and feel like I hear something new each time.

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

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SirSamVimes posted:



Also "Sometimes walks to the kitchen and forgets why" was waaay too real and I feel called out

I'm going to really date myself but there was a Sniglet for this called "destinesia"

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Hotel Transylvania 4 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AP86CYeR30

No funny jokes, but the concept might have some legs.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

IShallRiseAgain posted:

It seems like Dracula's daughter/her husband might actually be more of the focus for this one instead of it entirely being focused on Adam Sandler and friends. Too little and too late at this point.

Also interesting because apparently Adam Sandler isn't in this one - they used a sound-a-like.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Robindaybird posted:

the fact anyone thought any of these guys would be hot young things is baffling given they're clearly meant to be schlubby middle-aged guys from the onset - aka very stereotypical "Dads".

Yeah dumb/oaf dads is all of their entire characters. They look exactly like they should.

Also the only reason the IM is good with women is *because* he's invisible.

edit: also none of these sketches even match the art design of the HT series so they don't even make sense.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
What a weird coincidence. The Land Before Time came up on the Netflix recommend selection this morning and it was my 2 year old's first time to see it. He loved it.

As for a live action, Walking With Dinosaurs is as close as you're going to get.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

duz posted:

So the second son is named Jr? Bit of a jerk move that.

Gah there's no clip but there's a great scene in The Office where Andy is describing how he was originally named Walt Jr, but then when he was 6, his little brother was born and they felt the new son was more deserving of the name so they gave it to him and changed his.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

FilthyImp posted:

Raya better recover from this stupid whattaboutism in the final fight because wooooooow.

Nope lol.

Also the DruuHill are pretty nothing enemies. Pure plot contrivance

Yeah I've seen Raya like 30 times now and it's never landed for me. I think it's because nothing ever feels grounded to anything relatable or accountable. It's just... made up magic things for magic's sake. The dragons are just there, the DruHill's are just... there... nothing got me invested ever.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Ccs posted:

Oh it’s free on Disney plus now huh? I guess I could watch it. I’m not that excited to though, I know we’re not supposed to make this comparison but I just rewatched Legend of Korra recently and am almost done with an Avatar rewatch and I’m afraid this is gonna seem like a load of poo poo in comparison. Trying to squeeze all that world building into a 2 hour film....

Oh don't worry they don't try to worldbuild...

edit: What I really hate is how they felt the need to give the teen girls like... dumbass anachronistic language. "Dragon Nerd/Sisu Fan Necklace/On the Regular/You're nobody without your band/etc etc" It felt patronizing

BonoMan fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 5, 2021

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Sivart13 posted:

What's your take on Moana?

Moana is amazing. The best Disney animated movie ever? Certainly up there. The Tweet joke in there is totally dumb but it’s ok b/c the rest of the movie is amazing.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

.......anachronistic to...when? Dragon apocalypse times?

Huh? I mean taking something clearly modern like their teen language (she even says “What can I say? Bling is my thing!”) and putting it in dragon apocalypse time.

It feels like really lazy “how do we get these characters to appeal to kids?” Decision some suit made somewhere. Instead of just letting them be cool inspiring characters on their own.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

flashy_mcflash posted:

Moana is as close to perfect as it gets. There's things in there that could have ruined the movie, like the two animal sidekicks being fairly inconsequential to the story or the underdeveloped and possibly problematic Kakamora or the involvement of Lin Manuel Miranda but they just...don't. Everything hits and is emotionally resonant and the movie is fuckin beautiful.

It’s so goddamned good. And so pretty. The whole ending sequence is just so beautifully composed and designed. Just amazing.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

dennyk posted:

That would have made the whole parallel between Raya trusting Namaari and the other dragons trusting Sisu that the movie was clearly trying to draw a lot less nonsensical, as well. Sisu's siblings trusted her with a critical task despite her being a bit of a screw-up because they *knew* her, and they believed in her and believed that she'd do the right thing and succeed in the end. As it was, Namaari and Raya had, what, a grand total of five minutes of fake friendship when they were little kids before Namaari stabbed Raya in the back and effectively caused the "death" of her father and most of her people? It's not really clear whether the two of them ever even met each other again prior to the events in the movie itself; if not, they literally don't even know each other at all, and Namaari has either been openly trying to murder Raya or has been pretending to be friendly just to turn around and betray her *literally* every time they've encountered each other. Raya's distrust of Namaari isn't a symptom of Raya being too closed-off and unwilling to trust other people in general (which I think is what the movie was trying to preach against), it's a perfectly reasonable and rational position to take towards a particular person who deliberately and maliciously betrayed her trust multiple times. Hell, as you said, Namaari didn't even have any kind of redemption arc; she did absolutely nothing to make herself worthy of Raya's trust, so Raya giving her that trust in the end anyway isn't a heartfelt and touching moment like with Sisu and her siblings, it's just a moment of utter foolishness or insanity.

And, I know this has been mentioned but needs repeating, even at the very end when everyone trusts her... She STILL tries to gently caress everyone over one las time by leaving them to die in the rubble she is an absolutely terrible character.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Baymax + Wall-E + the Boov from Home

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
And we promise they will never...ever... ever ever everrrrrr become evilohno.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

MinionOfCthulhu posted:

I’ve seen more than a few shows on Disney Jr thanks to having a two and a half year old. Most are grating, but Bluey is legitimately good and I’m surprised it is allowed to deal with the stuff it does. You can watch Mickey and friends try and figure out shapes and then when Bluey comes on, she finds a hurt bird and takes it to the vet with her dad but then it dies (and they use the word “died”!) and “it’s out of our hands” is the advice from her dad. Wowsa.

Bluey good is what I’m saying.

Also they had an episode that was almost on completely silent in a solar system dream sequence with the background music pulled from Holst’s planet suite.

Bluey is amazing and I was more excited when S2 hit D+ than my kids were.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
The most annoying thing about Noi, other than the sheer concept, is that - and this is a huge pet peeve of mine - it's not voiced by a kid.

I *cannot stand* adults (or in this case a 15 year old) making baby voices. It is so grating.

I'm LOOKING AT YOU WORD PARTY!



On that note - hire whomever the secret voices of Bluey are to do all kid voice acting from now til they grow up.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Ccs posted:

They've also got separate teams going on different features, so they're not going from crunch to crunch.

Pixar is the rare studio that keeps their people busy with shorts during the downtimes between projects, like if one movie ends early before the animation is ready to start on another, or the other movie's animation team is already full up. Thats why you see so many Pixar spark shorts appearing recently, it's a good way for them to develop in house talent without losing any of their people to their competitors.

I find it hard to believe Pixar has enough unplanned downtime to move people to shorts. Rather I'd imagine the production of shorts is a scheduled part of their strategy to help both foster non-main-project creativity (and prevent burnout) and use as proof of concepts for R&D of certain tech or techniques. Sort of like the Google 20% thing or whatever.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Will watch Luca again but on first watch it was pretty bland. Pretty production and a few funny moments... And I liked the ending however that ending deserved more of a movie about the kids relationship rather than just hints. I think we're ready for a movie where it doesn't have to be wink wink nudge nudged.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Timeless Appeal posted:

Mitchells vs the Machines is pretty direct

Not really. I mean at the very end it's revealed directly yes. But in the movie it's just hinted at and it's not really about that. I'm talking about I'm ready for a movie where the relationship is a heavy part of the plot. Luca is a start and the ending scenes are beautiful... I just want more!

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Robindaybird posted:

Among other things, we have people in this very thread that act like acknowledging gay children exist is sexualizing them.

Yeah it's ridiculous but unfortunately I don't think we're ever going to get to a comfort point ... someone is just going to have to take a leap and do it. Sometimes culture will follow those leads.

But to be fair I probably shouldn't expect Disney Pixar to be the ones to take that kind of risk.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Macaluso posted:

Luca feels very much like a movie where everyone working on it wanted to make as gay of a movie as they could get away with DESPITE Disney. I'm not sure I agree with the takes that feel the movie shouldn't be praised for what's just subtext/metaphors just becasue it's Disney. The people working on the movie are not the people running the company. It'd be great if they were allowed to be totally upfront about all of that, but obviously the people up top are not gonna allow it.

Did anyone say this? (the bolded part)

But, look, people aren't slipping anything in to these movies. They are very tightly run ships and all subtext and interactions are very clear to everyone involved. The limits we see are only what the corporations feel comfortable with so they are directly responsible.

Doesn't mean it's *not* nice to see those interactions... but merely that we want to see more and they're in a position to lead that charge. But they won't because money.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

FunkyAl posted:

If you want disney to make a gay movie, why not instead just watch a film by a gay filmmaker? Why need disney?

Because it's not that just *I* want to see a gay movie... I want it in the mainstream so that LGBTQ+ kids out their struggling to understand their sexuality and inclusiveness are made to feel that it's ok. And one of the largest media juggernauts in the world, whether we like them or not, can play a very influential role in that process.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

bewilderment posted:

I wouldn't call MvtM throwing a lesbian pride flag-coloured rainbow over Katie during her introduction and then her wearing a pride pin during the entirety of the movie 'hinted at'.

That's like saying a character is 'hinted at' being French because they have an outrageous French accent, wear a beret and wear a French flag pin.
It's not 'queer cinema', but it is a movie where the main character is extremely gay.

Dude that's the definition of a hint. Lots of kids love rainbows. I mean *we* get it and especially on second watch. But that's literally what a hint is. Saying she's gay is not a hint. Showing her with a rainbow is a hint. Especially to kids.

edit: And... Lesbian Pride Coloured Rainbow? The pride flag rainbow is ROYGBV... like a regular rainbow.

BonoMan fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 22, 2021

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Really really lovin' Luca with more and more views. The gay subtext was not nearly as subtle as I thought when I first viewed - probably b/c I was too busy dadding (making popcorn, making juiced, refilling popcorn, refilling juices... over and over).

I loved Ercole's "no... but we're afraid of YOU!" So frickin' on point.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

MinionOfCthulhu posted:

My son’s new movie obsession is Raya. Send help. This movie was not very good.

Counterpoint -..... wait no counterpoint, it's def not very good.

This brings me to something though, I love the skin texture in Luca. There's actual texture, and freckles and some grain and just in general it feels tactile. I cannot stand the rubbery-ness of everyone in Raya. Like, it actually gives me a negative reaction to the characters.

Also this is my favorite moment in Luca:

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

readingatwork posted:

I've talked about it before but Luca is VERY gay and it's VERY intentional. It's just that the gayness is limited to the realm of themes, vibes and allegory so if you aren't familiar with gay culture then you probably missed most of it. For example, here are Luca and Alberto in fish form:



And here's the MLM pride flag:



Hrmmmmm..... :thunk:


I'm not joking when I say that Luca is the gayest mainstream kid's movie I've ever seen.There's tons of moments like Luca's parents finding his porn human stuff and sending him to gay conversion therapy the deep that speak directly to a queer experience vs other outsider groups. In fact, if you know what to look for there's basically a completely different movie hiding right beneath the surface about a gay kid falling in love, coming out and finding acceptance. Which is incredibly cool and makes Luca one of the more interesting Pixar films imo.

Yeah the more I watch it the more it's so clear. That moment of his first surface outing when he's just looking around and all of a sudden everything has such clarity and is so beautiful. That's obviously such "oh *this* is what it means to be the person I always knew I was" moment.

It's a lovely analogy but it reminds me of us folks with glasses when we finally get our first pair and we didn't realize how lovely we had been viewing the world. "HOLY poo poo! There are LEAVES on motherfuckin' TREES!"

edit: also I didn't realize MLM had their own pride flag. Learn something new every day.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

The_Doctor posted:

Yeah, a straight friend of mine watched Luca and thought it was alright, if slight. I told him to rewatch it with a gay reading in mind (he’s empathetic enough to be able to), and he said it completely changed how he saw it. He now regards it as one of Pixar‘s best, and that once he was pointed at it, the allegory becomes very clear.

Yeah my first viewing I kinda saw it as bland... not bad by any stretch, but not really engaging. But now it's like I can't get enough. It's so drat good. And honestly even without the subtext it's good.. just took a couple of viewings for me.

I love the score - moments of it feel like some sort of Andrew Bird/Kishi Bashi collaboration.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

IShallRiseAgain posted:

There is so many pride flags out there at the moment, I don't think matching the color scheme of the flag means anything. Especially since those colors are already associated with aquatic stuff. To be clear, I'm talking about this specific scenario.

I dunno man. I think context is key here. Also each one seems to own either side of the white bar. I'd say it's intentional. Or at least reinforced.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

flashy_mcflash posted:

drat Encanto looks gorgeous. It'd be nice if they could use someone other than LMM for a change but I'll take it when the movie looks this stunning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=togmdDHG3Pw

Well he writes great songs so I'm totally ok with it

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

flashy_mcflash posted:

My daughter loves all those animal sidekicks in Encanto from even the short glimpse of them. Goddamn you Mouse, you done did it again. More toys to buy that'll end up in the corner with Pua and the chicken from Moana.

Hei hei. The chicken's name is Hei Hei! How you gonna remember Pua and not the best character?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
The song is easily the worst thing about that. Feels really cheap

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Macaluso posted:

Imagine the most "this fuckin guy" face you can imagine, that's me reading this post :colbert:

It's like someone just had demo love with the larger than life lyric. Ughhhhh!

I'm not like a BSB hater, but it just feels like something a knockoff or lesser than studio would do.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

flashy_mcflash posted:

It does feel like a bit of a Dreamworks move but I'm not mad at it. Also Bao kicked so much rear end that I'm willing to let just about anything slide unless I get conclusive proof that the movie's bad.

Oh I'm excited for the movie. Bao is my favorite of all the Pixar shorts too!

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

mycot posted:

Someone rich and powerful out there desperately wants the idea of an "internet movie" to work, this is like attempt #3 (the Wreck It Ralph sequel, the Emoji Movie).

Ralph Breaks the Internet is great so f u

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Aww the Aardman mouths are great!

I will say I see a lot of lukewarm first watches of Luca. I was the exact same way.. thought it was middling. But upon several rewatches I just really love it.

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Encanto looks great!

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