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Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

kirbysuperstar posted:

Nah you'd be surprised. I've got a 3060, a 5600X, three SSDs, one mechanical and a capture card on a 550W. Newegg's calculator puts that at about 354W needed.

Huh, I currently have a 650W PSU and thought I would need to upgrade that if I want to get a newer card (Currently have a 1070, which tends to run things around high settings at 1440P well enough. No Raytracing, but I am good for now)

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goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Play posted:

Once that happens I think I will go ahead and splurge on Deathloop just to have something to put my new card through its paces

Also really curious to see how different asscreed val looks, that was one of the games that didn't really run even on lowest settings on my old card

Deathloop is pretty demanding and it looks good but it doesn't feel crazy "next gen". Not sure what card you have but if you own Doom Eternal or Metro Exodus you should definitely take one of those for a spin; those are the games that really wowed me when I got my 3070. Great optimization too; I can run Doom at 1440p/120FPS basically maxed out

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Hwurmp posted:

Desperados III is free to play for the next three days, and $20 to purchase for another week. :clint:

That is an insane deal. If you ever played and loved Commandos or the original Desperados games back in the day, or enjoyed Shadow Tactics more recently, Desperados III is absolutely the most refined entry into the genre. It's a long-rear end game, has plenty of difficulty setting options to get things right where you want them, and a bunch of optional mission objectives that give it some replayability.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Serephina posted:

Computer parts for gamer enthusiasts are comical. This one part is 10% faster under laboratory conditions, but costs twice as much and outputs such extravagant heat that you need to buy specialist cooling gear, which by the way we totally have a market for.

Drawing 500W is the equivalent of your home microwave sitting at 50% for hours on end boiling cups of water as you game. It's kind of something I pay attention to as a long time ago I had to upgrade a bunch of parts - not for performance, but to halve my TDP due to local setup/environment reasons. Most non-laptop stuff is specc'd to be *really* wasteful, you really don't need all that poo poo to play new games.

If you don't have to wear ear protection due to the howling fans, can you even call yourself a Gamer?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


He raises a pretty good point though -- why can't I use my gaming PC to also make coffee in the morning?

Superanos
Nov 13, 2009

Unlucky7 posted:

Huh, I currently have a 650W PSU and thought I would need to upgrade that if I want to get a newer card (Currently have a 1070, which tends to run things around high settings at 1440P well enough. No Raytracing, but I am good for now)

Should note that the RTX 3060 is not that power hungry. 3060, 3060 Ti and 3070 might work on that PSU. Then there's a big jump in power requirement for 3070 Ti and higher, you need to upgrade if you go for these.

Also the RTX 3060 is not worth it for a 1070 owner. It's quite a weak card and you should go for 3060 Ti at least. That Ti makes a huge difference.

Superanos fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Sep 17, 2021

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Serephina posted:

Drawing 500W is the equivalent of your home microwave sitting at 50% for hours on end boiling cups of water as you game. It's kind of something I pay attention to as a long time ago I had to upgrade a bunch of parts - not for performance, but to halve my TDP due to local setup/environment reasons. Most non-laptop stuff is specc'd to be *really* wasteful, you really don't need all that poo poo to play new games.

If it was drawing 500W constantly, sure. But that's not what a 500W power supply is doing.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Superanos posted:

Also the RTX 3060 is not worth it for a 1070 owner. It's quite a weak card and you should go for 3060 Ti at least. That Ti makes a huge difference.

Yeah probably. Personally if I had more money I would have gone for that but there's a big, big price difference just between base/Ti here and I'm coming from a 1060 and only do 1080p anyways so it's been very good for me.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

OgNar posted:

From their Discord

cheaty cheats follow

Thanks for this!

EDIT: Loving the cause of death :allears:

CommissarMega fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Sep 17, 2021

haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



Deakul posted:

Titan Quest just doesn't nail the combat feel at all for me, I think Grim Dawn excels far more there and it's kind of important for ARPGs to me to have both good combat feel and interesting loot.

Titan Quest I felt only sorta did the loot well, it's really saved by the amount of customization you have with the socketables, the A+ class system and yeah... the game's entire schtick is awesome I loved going on an Age of Mythology world tour and it was incredibly colorful and well designed. So I did actually beat it(never beat the expansion though, I think me and my friend lost interest) but it was rough playing it, it helped having a buddy.

Grim Dawn I thought suffered from having the most boring and overly dark aesthetic ever and thus just... it's a chore for me to play for extended periods and I think it takes a really long time to even get fun, TQ is a slow burn as well but the world was more... inviting? I guess I'd call it. But GD had pretty meaty combat feel and skills were flashy, appealed to my lizard brain a bit better.

I admit it's been many years since I've seriously tried Titan Quest so maybe a replay is in order, are the new expansions worth checking out?

this is 100% how I see both games. Floaty ragdolls have never changed for TQ with the addons or so, so it depends if you can live with that. Otherwise the content added is great and for sure worth it.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Floaty ragdolls is a feature.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Yea things getting their necks stretched on trees was at least 40% of the reason to play TQ

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
Are graphic card prices still hosed? I was thinking about doing a new PC build, but last I check the prices on them were high due to COVID-19 affecting the manufacturing of them

haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



Willo567 posted:

Are graphic card prices still hosed?

yes.

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

Willo567 posted:

Are graphic card prices still hosed? I was thinking about doing a new PC build, but last I check the prices on them were high due to COVID-19 affecting the manufacturing of them
No end in sight for GPU prices unfortunately. It's not just COVID, it's also crypto mining. My current card (GTX 1070) costs double what I paid for it in 2017.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Willo567 posted:

Are graphic card prices still hosed? I was thinking about doing a new PC build, but last I check the prices on them were high due to COVID-19 affecting the manufacturing of them

There's been talk of forming gamer vigilante mobs to burn down known Bitcoiners' homes but I don't know if we're going ahead with that

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



Volte posted:

No end in sight for GPU prices unfortunately. It's not just COVID, it's also crypto mining. My current card (GTX 1070) costs double what I paid for it in 2017.

my 3080 which i paid like 300 bucks to upgrade through EVGA from my 2070 costs $2500 in canada now.

Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010
Like, Nyaa.

:colbert:

Willo567 posted:

Are graphic card prices still hosed? I was thinking about doing a new PC build, but last I check the prices on them were high
The only ‘normal’ price for graphic card is to buy a whole new PC that come with it.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
First it was just crypto miners. Now it's also a global chip shortage that might continue into 2023.

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

queeb posted:

my 3080 which i paid like 300 bucks to upgrade through EVGA from my 2070 costs $2500 in canada now.

I just saw some 3080 Ti cards on a shelf today that had this kinda price tag on it.

A 3060 goes for about $700. But the 3060 just isn't worth it compared to what you're getting at the higher tiers.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I got a 3060Ti for MSRP and it’s definitely worth it but, Ti and MSRP are doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I wouldn’t want to pay scalper prices for it unless I didn’t have any other option.

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.

StrixNebulosa posted:

A question for the fine folks in here: what game is this?



I'm watching a random CSI and I think that's a Turok?

This is Brute Force. I played this last week. It was...okay.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

kirbysuperstar posted:

Nah you'd be surprised. I've got a 3060, a 5600X, three SSDs, one mechanical and a capture card on a 550W. Newegg's calculator puts that at about 354W needed.

I've been told that you should have around double the amount that is being used in an average situation. Or something like that. Regardless not knowing what my PSU actually is (someone on Amazon claimed it was 500W but sometimes parts can vary slightly even in the same prebuilt model) or what kind of cables it has it's just better to be safe than sorry. I mean, I can't lose this new GPU for some stupid reason or because I was too cheap to buy a decent power unit.

Serephina posted:

Computer parts for gamer enthusiasts are comical. This one part is 10% faster under laboratory conditions, but costs twice as much and outputs such extravagant heat that you need to buy specialist cooling gear, which by the way we totally have a market for.

Drawing 500W is the equivalent of your home microwave sitting at 50% for hours on end boiling cups of water as you game. It's kind of something I pay attention to as a long time ago I had to upgrade a bunch of parts - not for performance, but to halve my TDP due to local setup/environment reasons. Most non-laptop stuff is specc'd to be *really* wasteful, you really don't need all that poo poo to play new games.

Yeah I'm just getting one that has a decent warranty, a quiet fan and, crucially, and automatic eco mode of some sort. But as someone else pointed out, you need the capacity for the very highest draw moments it's not pumping out that much electricity all the time.

goferchan posted:

Deathloop is pretty demanding and it looks good but it doesn't feel crazy "next gen". Not sure what card you have but if you own Doom Eternal or Metro Exodus you should definitely take one of those for a spin; those are the games that really wowed me when I got my 3070. Great optimization too; I can run Doom at 1440p/120FPS basically maxed out

Yeah I got the 3070 as well. Funny thing is though that I actually won't be able to really use it to a fraction of its capabilities at the moment. Because I am using it on a 1080p TV that is locked to 60 Hz. But at least the textures and effects will be on ultra and it will have ray tracing. Mostly I was just getting annoyed that there were games I couldn't play on the 1060, this will solve that and then some.

kirbysuperstar posted:

Yeah probably. Personally if I had more money I would have gone for that but there's a big, big price difference just between base/Ti here and I'm coming from a 1060 and only do 1080p anyways so it's been very good for me.

I really wanted a 3070 Ti or 3080/3080 Ti. But when you play the newegg shuffle you're only likely to win on one product at a time, took me a month or two to get the privilege to buy the 3070 so I decided it was fine. Especially since I don't have an advanced monitor and probably won't anytime soon.

Willo567 posted:

Are graphic card prices still hosed? I was thinking about doing a new PC build, but last I check the prices on them were high due to COVID-19 affecting the manufacturing of them

They are but I would definitely recommend the newegg shuffle. It's really simple they email me every morning and since I'm at work anyways I choose the products I would be willing to buy, then later that same day they do a random draw for each product and let you know if you got anything. You don't actually have to buy it if you get chosen, you've just won the option to buy it.

Someone mentioned it offhand here which is what gave me the idea to try. Better than loving camping out at Best Buy or paying scalper prices or some dumb poo poo. I did get it at MSRP although they made me buy another thing along with it.

Compared to some other methods of trying to sniff out GPUs, it was quite easy and user friendly and only took me about a month and a half to get drawn for one.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


Quick question on Hearts of Iron IV: I've been enjoying the base game's free weekend, and it seems like a big chunk of mechanically interesting crap for $9... but Paradox has an unfortunate habit of putting half of the interesting (or vital) mechanics behind DLC. Is there anything really critical or noteworthy I should look at, or is the base game fine?

I've read some reviews stating that naval stuff and land wars in asia are really tough without man the guns/waking the tiger, but looking at both DLC descriptions they sound more like minor, vaguely interesting fluff than huge overhauls.

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008



after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

Disposable Scud posted:

This is Brute Force. I played this last week. It was...okay.

Oh poo poo I had Brute Force on the OG Xbox. That game was not great!

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzwCsMFiblc

game's out. if you played the demo it's even better. if you haven't played it you should try it. it's really good.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Is there a demo still available somewhere? I don't think I see one on steam. Looks awesome though!

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
i think it was only for one of the game festival things, but the game takes all of 2 minutes to teach you the controls and then it's go time, you'll know if it's for you well within the refund window.

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

Omi no Kami posted:

Quick question on Hearts of Iron IV: I've been enjoying the base game's free weekend, and it seems like a big chunk of mechanically interesting crap for $9... but Paradox has an unfortunate habit of putting half of the interesting (or vital) mechanics behind DLC. Is there anything really critical or noteworthy I should look at, or is the base game fine?

I've read some reviews stating that naval stuff and land wars in asia are really tough without man the guns/waking the tiger, but looking at both DLC descriptions they sound more like minor, vaguely interesting fluff than huge overhauls.

The base game is fine. Most of the DLC should only be bought if you are interested in the specific focus trees for countries included within them.

Quick guide:
Together for Victory: Focus trees for Canada/Australia/New Zealand/India/South Africa, some tiny mechanical changes that aren't necessary. The focus trees are pretty good.
Death or Dishonor: Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. The focus trees are alright, the mechanics aren't necessary.
Waking the Tiger: China/Communist China, decisions and general traits. This one has good focus trees and good mechanics.
Man The Guns: New USA/UK/Netherlands/Mexico focus trees, governments in exile, lots of naval stuff. The naval stuff isn't useful most of the time, but the new focus trees and governments in exile are cool.
La Resistance: Really good focus trees for France/Spain/Portugal, but new espionage mechanics that just suck and are worse than vanilla.
Battle for the Bosporus: Bulgaria/Greece/Turkey focus trees.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I remember way back, one of the main goon complaints about HOI IV was that the game played itself. Is that true? Is it possible to exert meaningful control over your nation without going insane from the micromanagement?

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

Phlegmish posted:

I remember way back, one of the main goon complaints about HOI IV was that the game played itself. Is that true? Is it possible to exert meaningful control over your nation without going insane from the micromanagement?

HOI3 was the one that played itself (I miss it's ability to toggle automation of literally anything individually). The only part of 4 that can really be automated is the war part, and you can have as much or as little control of it as you want.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Phlegmish posted:

I remember way back, one of the main goon complaints about HOI IV was that the game played itself. Is that true? Is it possible to exert meaningful control over your nation without going insane from the micromanagement?

That’s actually the extreme upside of HoI4. It automates the counter shuffling. The issues are that they added more micromanagement, the air game is still bad, and there’s still little reason to do anything other than Google the optimal division layouts.

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

So, uh, Jagged Alliance 3 was just announced

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Is this one gonna not suck hot buttered rear end?

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I liked Back In Action :saddumb:

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

It’s hard to have a ton of confidence. Hopefully slapping a mainline number on it for the first time in 20whatever years means it’ll be better than all the random stuff of the last 15 years.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
THQN also announced Outcast 2 and half of the CG reveal trailer is Na'vi-knockoff dancing aliens for some reason

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1013140/Outcast_2__A_New_Beginning/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qZvge0agNE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5R-1x7t23U

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

It's made by the studio that made Tropico (3/4/5) and Surviving Mars so that's at least better pedigree than the "studios" that made the other sequels. And at least the description seems to understand that half of what made JA what it was was the merc personalities.

I still don't expect it to be good, but I'm willing to believe there's a chance.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Now that is unexpected. I really liked the first game and played the HD remaster and it still holds up in a lot of ways, but so much of it is weird and like the beginning of paths that gaming didn’t take. I hope the new one follows up on the old, adds some QoL features, and remains something that stands apart.

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Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
Props to the goon who guessed JA3 might be coming based on the giveaway.
Honestly, the franchise is kinda cursed? How many pseudo remakes and spinoffs and weird games there have been since 2? Like 5? At least Haemimont Games are decent, albeit not exceptional, so maybe it'll work out.

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