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Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Hub Cat posted:

Looks like it's the same demo from before.


Hellblade then Plague Tale

Thank you. I will start right now.

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MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

Cactus posted:

Ok soooo
Since the Horizon Zero Dawn port has completely poo poo the bed and isn't worth the joules of energy it would take to click the add to cart button, which third person story driven adventure from my backlog should I play instead to mourn the passing of what should have been a great experience?

Enslaved: Oddessey to the West
A Plague Tale
Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice
Quantum Break

Quantum Break eventually has some really good "reality is breaking completely the gently caress apart" setpieces if that sounds interesting. Everything else about it I felt was kind of "meh, it works". It also feels like development must've been rushed at some point, because they spend an extended portion of some of the later chapters unsubtly foreshadowing that you're going to have to contend with some sort of invincible fourth-dimensional boogeymen, only to quietly drop the idea like it never existed.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

explosivo posted:

I see that there's a Rift Breaker Prologue on Steam now, I loved this in the demo weekend thing from a bit ago, has anyone tried this prologue and is it the same thing that was in that demo?

It's almost certainly the same demo, since that was also the tutorial/prologue mission.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Cardiovorax posted:

It should be, but that's why it's a trap choice. The stat doesn't actually have any positive effect on the result of your social skill rolls at all. What it does is mostly completely unrelated to that.

Of course, if you're still thinking in Fallout terms, you probably will see this coming, so I can entirely imagine the developers were doing just that.
In fallout it has a noticeable effect on the starting score for the talky skills, though. The gently caress does the stat do then

Hwurmp posted:

They eat tons but then only one or two will poop. Frankly I'm concerned about their health
What kind of bathrooms do you have? Can you take a screenshot?

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Zereth posted:

In fallout it has a noticeable effect on the starting score for the talky skills, though. The gently caress does the stat do then
In Wasteland 2, Charisma is used to increase the Leadership aura radius and adds a bonus percentage to XP rewards. You also need a certain total amount divided any which way among your party to recruit some characters. It does not play into the dialogue skills.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
Post Void. Run forward constantly, shoot constantly maybe my rubber bullets will get someone I can't even see. Are there enemies anywhere I don't know there are guys blinding me now but my gun's already blinding me enough as it is just keep shooting and running and everything's blowing up around me and I have no idea what way to go but as long as I vaguely go """forward""" I seem to get there every time so I'll keep doing that. I think the doors are just literal vaginas and I can't tell if these guys' heads are eyes or mouths there's no time to actually look at what anything is.

Good.

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS

Cactus posted:

Ok soooo
Since the Horizon Zero Dawn port has completely poo poo the bed and isn't worth the joules of energy it would take to click the add to cart button, which third person story driven adventure from my backlog should I play instead to mourn the passing of what should have been a great experience?

Whaaaaaaaaat?
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I wouldn't mind a 10TB HDD and then a 2TB SSD. That's the dream.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Jamfrost posted:

Whaaaaaaaaat?
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I wouldn't mind a 10TB HDD and then a 2TB SSD. That's the dream.

I'm not sure I understand. Have you replied to the wrong post?

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
They have, but the idea of an SSD with your OS and all your games installed on it and a big HDD with all your other poo poo on it is what I do.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Gort posted:

They have, but the idea of an SSD with your OS and all your games installed on it and a big HDD with all your other poo poo on it is what I do.

I have an SSD with my OS and whatever current "big loading time" game I'm currently playing on it, and a 4TB HDD with media and most of the Steam games from my backlog I feel I'll ever maybe want to play one day on it, because moving them from there to the SSD is a lot quicker than downloading them if I want to play them on a whim.

My eventual goal is to have enough HDD space to fit my entire Steam/Epic/itch.io catalogue and all future purchases on it so that in the event that any of those platforms die before I/we all do, I'll at least have access to all the games I've sunk cost into over the years.

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."

Cactus posted:

I have an SSD with my OS and whatever current "big loading time" game I'm currently playing on it, and a 4TB HDD with media and most of the Steam games from my backlog I feel I'll ever maybe want to play one day on it, because moving them from there to the SSD is a lot quicker than downloading them if I want to play them on a whim.

My eventual goal is to have enough HDD space to fit my entire Steam/Epic/itch.io catalogue and all future purchases on it so that in the event that any of those platforms die before I/we all do, I'll at least have access to all the games I've sunk cost into over the years.

There'll probably be a moment when storage size balloons so much that you could actually store all your Steam games on one, maybe two drives. Perhaps that's their backup plan - open up a bunch of locations across many cities and have people just walk up and copy all the games they've purchased licenses for onto their harddrives.

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009
I'm not too afraid of any of the platforms I own games on dying. For my old XBox 360 and PS4 collection it is very possible I might not have working hardware or hardware that can connect to their platform that runs it anymore as all the games will have to be rebought as PS5 versions or some poo poo like that though. But for Steam, PCs will keep running them. And if Steam dies, there will undoubtedly be some competitor (Epic?) totally ready to buy them out and offer people to be able to keep their libraries on their platform instead. The massive userbase that would migrate over would be valuable enough to offset any cost for offering their existing game downloads to them for free.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Blattdorf posted:

There'll probably be a moment when storage size balloons so much that you could actually store all your Steam games on one, maybe two drives. Perhaps that's their backup plan - open up a bunch of locations across many cities and have people just walk up and copy all the games they've purchased licenses for onto their harddrives.

Never. The combination of ever-fattening install sizes with Steam's perpetual yesteryear sales means that your typical gaming consumer will own more TBs of data than they'll ever be able to afford to store.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Also just game sizes themselves ballooning up to match increased disk sizes, and in theory internet speeds should get faster to make it easier to cram 300GB games onto your drive too.

So I've seen mixed reviews about the HZD port, what's the word from actual real people with average computers not trying to play it @ 4K?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Sab669 posted:

Also just game sizes themselves ballooning up to match increased disk sizes, and in theory internet speeds should get faster to make it easier to cram 300GB games onto your drive too.

So I've seen mixed reviews about the HZD port, what's the word from actual real people with average computers not trying to play it @ 4K?

It's not out yet. When it unlocks I will happily report here how it goes.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Oh, right, unlock times. My buddy texted me saying he took the day off from work to play and then hasn't responded so I figured he was busy killing robo-dinos :v:

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


StrixNebulosa posted:

It's not out yet. When it unlocks I will happily report here how it goes.

Ditto! Boy it's sounding pretty dire even by the relaxed standards of the engine being pretty new to PC, though

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/horizon-zero-dawn-pc-specs-and-benchmarks-one-messy-port

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/horizon-zero-dawn-on-pc-not-the-optimized-port-we-were-hoping-for/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w-pZm7Zay4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQJZ464WFQ

It's not looking good.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
"Serious performance spikes and even audio stuttering" on a mid-range system does really sound pretty bad. I don't think I've so far experienced actual audio issues even from very bad ports, so that's worrying.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
So basically wait a bit for some extra patches / new hardware every one is gonna buy to play Cyperpunk 2077.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

And hopefully it'll be on sale for the Winter Sale too :v:

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Based on early performance anlysis the HZD port has some serious issues that can't just be chalked up to system specs, since it's giving even high-end gaming PCs trouble. I already have the game on Steam because I am a Horizon superfan, BUT at this moment in time I'd recommend new players wait for more fixes + some kind of fan patch to see how much it can be improved. This is because Horizon Zero Dawn is one of my favorite games and I'd hate anyone to think less of it because of a shoddy port job!

I'm going to see how well it runs on my system at 1440p, 2080 RTX with Ryzen 2700x here.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
Today I learned that everyone talking about Horizon Zero Dawn isn’t just still playing that zero-g FPS from five years ago for whatever reason.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


BexGu posted:

So basically wait a bit for some extra patches / new hardware every one is gonna buy to play Cyperpunk 2077.

Witcher 3 scales down really well so I'd be surprised if cyberpunk didn't

thark
Mar 3, 2008

bork

exquisite tea posted:

Based on early performance anlysis the HZD port has some serious issues that can't just be chalked up to system specs, since it's giving even high-end gaming PCs trouble. I already have the game on Steam because I am a Horizon superfan, BUT at this moment in time I'd recommend new players wait for more fixes + some kind of fan patch to see how much it can be improved. This is because Horizon Zero Dawn is one of my favorite games and I'd hate anyone to think less of it because of a shoddy port job!

It also seems to be one of those cases where some people run it mostly just fine at recommended spec and some people have major issues even at high specs.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Andrast posted:

Witcher 3 scales down really well so I'd be surprised if cyberpunk didn't

Obligatory video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJ330NGjCU

That's probably the only way I'll get to play CP2077.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Anonymous Robot posted:

Today I learned that everyone talking about Horizon Zero Dawn isn’t just still playing that zero-g FPS from five years ago for whatever reason.

Holy poo poo, I was thinking about this game the other week randomly and couldn't for the life of me remember the name of it. I Googled "Horizon shooter gravity" just now because of your post and found it. Shattered Horizon. My roommate in college built a new PC and I distinctly remember gawking at that game for a while.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

thark posted:

It also seems to be one of those cases where some people run it mostly just fine at recommended spec and some people have major issues even at high specs.

I'm on an Intel Core i7-8700K 3.70GHz, a GTX 970 and 16GB RAM looking to play at 2560x1440 so it's looking like I'm going to have to wait for this one. I'd be curious to hear from anyone with similar specs that takes the plunge how well it does though.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Cactus posted:

I'm on an Intel Core i7-8700K 3.70GHz, a GTX 970 and 16GB RAM looking to play at 2560x1440 so it's looking like I'm going to have to wait for this one. I'd be curious to hear from anyone with similar specs that takes the plunge how well it does though.

:same: Although my i5 is older but I have 32GB of RAM. But yea 970 + 1440p is probably more important than either of those details.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
The guy in the Ars Technica article tried it on a laptop with a 1070 and otherwise comparable specs and couldn't get it over 48 FPS. It's the system that had the audio issues as well. The 970 has like half the power of the 1070, if what I just quickly googled is correct. You will likely have severe issues if that says anything at all.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Is there a good Tetris game on Steam? I don't care about multiplayer, just want something reasonably brainless to do while watching videos.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Cardiovorax posted:

The guy in the Ars Technica article tried it on a laptop with a 1070 and otherwise comparable specs and couldn't get it over 48 FPS. It's the system that had the audio issues as well. The 970 has like half the power of the 1070, if what I just quickly googled is correct. You will likely have severe issues if that says anything at all.

The mobile 1070 is about 30 percent faster than the desktop 970, so they’re not completely boned but it’s not ideal. Laptop GPUs should really have different model numbers, the lower wattage and thermal concerns mean they’re nowhere near the level of their desktop counterparts.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

That's disappointing. I guess I'll probably pick it up in the distant future when I get a 3070/80 if I'm feeling extra dumb, and am also bored of Cyberpunk.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

anilEhilated posted:

Is there a good Tetris game on Steam? I don't care about multiplayer, just want something to do while watching videos.

puyo puyo tetris although its kind of expensive. If you don't mind EGS you can get tetris effect there too

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Omi no Kami posted:

Meanwhile, is Wurm Unlimited good? Everything I've read seems split between "Astonishingly deep and complex survival thingie" and "opaque, frustrating, infuriating piece of garbage." Is this a Shenmue I situation, where both are correct?

Both are correct, yes, but it's more.

Wurm Unlimited is a stand-alone release of the Wurm Online MMO. It has ceased development but has a number of extremely long-running servers (many years) with a lot of active mod development.

Wurm Online just had a Steam release 3 weeks ago, with new servers and a huge rush of new players.

Generally speaking for both versions, they are very simulationist approaches to the "survival" genre they predate. The game does a few things that no other MMO has done, which is to provide a huge world that players terraform and actually settle. If you make a new character in Wurm Online right now, do a bit of the tutorial, and start in the Northern Isles on either the Harmony or Melody server and walk a short distance from the starter town you'll see people busy building roads, highways, villages, towns. And due to the way the game is structured, players are directly incentivised to also have farms, ranches for cattle, roads that make sense… It's really fascinating to watch people's ideas of what their medieval hamlet should look like.

You can think of Minecraft as the more casual development of Wurm (because it is).

I think everyone should, at some point, have a Wurm character and just try to find their way around. Wooded hilly areas are a nightmare of running in circles and getting profoundly lost and getting eaten by giant spiders.

It should be noted that the price for the game being old and made by just a few people are lacking animations and models and UX.

It's my podcast game, FWIW. Very grindy, but you also get that old UO thing where some people are specialised in certain things. Like, I wouldn't craft my own weapons, I'd buy or barter for them from a weaponsmith.

e: Here's a screenshot to show a bit of what I mean:


This used to be a green hill with orange trees everywhere. Most oranges were replaced by fast-growing pine for now, and the hill was terraced to support farms, a mine was opened and iron and copper found, but other metals (especially zinc and tin and lead) have to be traded for.

Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 7, 2020

Flimf
Sep 3, 2006

anilEhilated posted:

Is there a good Tetris game on Steam? I don't care about multiplayer, just want something reasonably brainless to do while watching videos.

Its not really tetris i guess, but Lumines:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/851670/LUMINES_REMASTERED/


I have not tried these so i have no idea how good they actually are, but heres a few options:

Treasure Stack:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/784130/Treasure_Stack/

Tricky Towers:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/437920/Tricky_Towers/

Also puyo puyo tetris is really good!

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

The mobile 1070 is about 30 percent faster than the desktop 970, so they’re not completely boned but it’s not ideal. Laptop GPUs should really have different model numbers, the lower wattage and thermal concerns mean they’re nowhere near the level of their desktop counterparts.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. I thought that having the same model number meant actually having the same performance, so it's not quite as severe as I assumed. You probably still can't expect FPS above the mid-30s in that case, but at least it wouldn't be a slideshow.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Tricky Towers is Physics Tetris, it's pretty fun for what it is

Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."
Arkane Studios is doing an AMA on Reddit Games right now and it has only just started. It might be a good opportunity to shoot a question to the devs.

Play PostVoid.

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Peewi
Nov 8, 2012

MMF Freeway posted:

puyo puyo tetris although its kind of expensive. If you don't mind EGS you can get tetris effect there too

Puyo Puyo Tetris is good, but I wish you could turn off the character voices. Even if you just play basic Tetris there are screaming anime characters.

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