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Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


Asterite34 posted:

Yeah, and like 2 and a half of those are good!

Yeah, the Dune books are notorious for their decline in quality. There's disagreement about when it stops being good, but there's agreement that after than point, it never gets significantly better again. There are people who defend God Emperor of Dune, but I'm not aware of anyone who thinks highly of the Herbert books after that, let alone the Kevin J. Anderson prequels.

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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I once considered The Courtship of Princess Leia to be my favorite book, so Kevin J. Anderson can do no wrong in my eyes.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


feedmyleg posted:

I once considered The Courtship of Princess Leia to be my favorite book, so Kevin J. Anderson can do no wrong in my eyes.

Were you 12?

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me


Silver2195 posted:

Yeah, the Dune books are notorious for their decline in quality. There's disagreement about when it stops being good, but there's agreement that after than point, it never gets significantly better again. There are people who defend God Emperor of Dune, but I'm not aware of anyone who thinks highly of the Herbert books after that, let alone the Kevin J. Anderson prequels.

There's an episode of The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy that basically adapts the plot of God Emperor of Dune wholesale so I guess someone out there really liked it.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



Iron Crowned posted:

Were you 12?

Thankfully, yes.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



feedmyleg posted:

I once considered The Courtship of Princess Leia to be my favorite book, so Kevin J. Anderson can do no wrong in my eyes.

That was by Dave Wolverton, not KJA!

I can see how you got confused though - Courtship of Princess Leia has the planet of redhead dominatrices, but KJA only wrote about the one redhead dominatrix admiral.

Fun fact about Wolverton, he taught writing at BYU and one of his students was Brandon Sanderson.

Lastdancer
Apr 21, 2008


* I'm gonna need some
dog treats for this!!!



Matrix 4 will show a repeat of the cave rave "orgy" sequence in reloaded, except this time it will be a warner IP orgy.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've called it corporate senility, you see it sometimes in cases like Konami, Games Workshop and Capcom for a whole when the management is a mix of dysfunctional, out of touch and literally senile that reality can't effectively penetrate, and you get bizarre, unpredictable decisions that seem actively spiteful towards their fans and the public. Especially since a lot of them clearly don't understand what products they actually make and why people like them.

None of those examples even compare, all three of those companies have increased their revenues since they made the decision you're probably disagreeing with. Konami alone has increased revenue by something like 30% since dropping video games to focus on slot and pachinko machines.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Apr 5, 2021

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon


Nap Ghost

Is Michael Jordan going to have a cameo in Space Jam 2? That would be wild.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Gatts posted:

Is Michael Jordan going to have a cameo in Space Jam 2? That would be wild.

They should include him, but only in the form of the sprite from Chaos in the Windy City.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.


Is Jordan even still alive because the last thing I remember him in was the hitlerstache Hanes commercial

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


College Slice

X-Ray Pecs posted:

This person must have cummed buckets when they negotiated splitting The Hobbit into three movies.

In the Lindsay Ellis Hobbit video it was explained that the financing structure gave WB a much bigger share of the profits for a second and third movie. Movie financing is so fascinating in Hollywood and accounts for a lot of the decisions behind the scenes.

It's the reason the Halo movie never got made. Microsoft tried to force a bidding war for the rights, but studio executives basically colluded over lunch, realized what MS was asking would make the movie impossible to finance, and collectively told MS to fuk off.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I really wonder what the quality of the first film would've been if Jackson made the choice to make the second two films bridge films. I think we all would have been much happier with the outcome.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007




Soiled Meat

What's a bridge film, please?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised




Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

None of those examples even compare, all three of those companies have increased their revenues since they made the decision you're probably disagreeing with. Konami alone has increased revenue by something like 30% since dropping video games to focus on slot and pachinko machines.

Capcom and GW are cases I consider to have passed that phase, mind, I'm referring to more GW before they had the CEO changeup and suddenly found themselves literally the most profitable company in the UK.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Jack B Nimble posted:

What's a bridge film, please?

The Bridge Over the River Kwai

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



FlamingLiberal posted:

(see also: Sony's leaked emails)

Ah the good old days

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Jack B Nimble posted:

What's a bridge film, please?

Alternative version of Casino Royale.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



feedmyleg posted:

I really wonder what the quality of the first film would've been if Jackson made the choice to make the second two films bridge films. I think we all would have been much happier with the outcome.

When the Hobbit was originally going to be two films only, and written and directed by Guillermo Del Toro, that was the idea. The first one was going to adapt The Hobbit, and the second film was going to link Hobbit and LOTR. Then when the Del Toro left, Jackson took over, and the decision was made to make it a trilogy, that's when they decided to chop it up.

IIRC, the decision to expand it from two to three movies was only done after filming was completed, too. Which also explains a lot.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



And to boot, according to the Lindsay Ellis video, there was a studio mandate that they weren't allowed to give the dwarves scenes to flesh out their personalities.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost




That big fight scene on the hill with the orc leader exactly in the middle of the second movie certainly feels like the end of the first movie in a two part movie series.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001





X-Ray Pecs posted:

I'm still amazed Warner Bros had enough faith in Denis Villeneuve's Dune to split it in two. Are they filming part two at the same time as one, or is it likely we'll only get half of Dune adapted?

From what I understand, they only filmed part 1. So any sequel would be a new production. Why? idk seems like it would have made more sense to film both back to back.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.






Grimey Drawer

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

From what I understand, they only filmed part 1. So any sequel would be a new production. Why? idk seems like it would have made more sense to film both back to back.

Shooting two films at once is a bit of a risk and from what I understand, this was the only way Villeneuve could get the studio to commit, and though it risks leaving the story unfinished, he's enough of a Dune fan that he thought it was worth the risk.

I also feel that at the time there was a certain "Well this is like sci-fi Game of Thrones" mentality which made it seem like a safer bet.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



Is there anything else big coming out that will be able to compete with it at the box office? Aka is there any chance that the pandemic will end up boosting its numbers? Or are they still doing the day-and-date with HBO?

Kong's numbers may not be great for normal times, but I can't imagine they're not thrilled to have as much of a hit on their hands as possible at the moment.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~


feedmyleg posted:

Is there anything else big coming out that will be able to compete with it at the box office? Aka is there any chance that the pandemic will end up boosting its numbers? Or are they still doing the day-and-date with HBO?

Kong's numbers may not be great for normal times, but I can't imagine they're not thrilled to have as much of a hit on their hands as possible at the moment.

I think Dune's going to be delayed as a theater-only release to preserve its franchise potential.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.






Grimey Drawer

Dune's set for October by which point things will probably be better but probably not like the before times.

Like if nothing else the numbers do seem to indicate there is an interest in going back to theaters, it's a question more of when people are more comfortable (which still requires way more vaccinations than we've got now, so, y'know, patience.)

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.



Gatts posted:

Is Michael Jordan going to have a cameo in Space Jam 2? That would be wild.

I have a standing bet with a friend of mine that this film will include a scene where Lebron James and a deepfake "in his prime" Jordan will play one-on-one. So, I'm thinking yes.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



make michael jordan the villain

cuz he's an rear end in a top hat

Dinosaurs!
May 22, 2003



I can’t see Jordan agreeing to that. It would make a good stinger, though.

e: For the one-on-one, I mean.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate


Boxman posted:

This is very astute. I feel like trying to get that sort of brand identification for a big tent brand is just chasing the impossible, because there is no WB other than "makes movies."

Disney got their brand identity by going the other way. They had their family friendly/for children branding set in the public consciousness (for, like, 60 years) then started gobbling everything else up. But they still know better than to try to mix their oil and water (unlike WB, with the Droogs cheering on tweety bird.) Like, there's a reason It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia isn't on Disney+.

Always Sunny is on Disney+ Star in Canada and I’m sure will end up on Disney + when they fold all the IP into it.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012


Lebron gets an important call that helps him realize the true way to win his son back & stop Virtua Cheadle: in the voting booths

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001

The four most over-rated things in life are champagne, lobster, anal sex and picnics. Oh, and that stupid children's book 'The Little Prince,' ugh.


Yams Fan

Alan Smithee posted:

make michael jordan the villain

cuz he's an rear end in a top hat

He loses, but in the post-credits you found he was betting against himself. Robust villain laughter.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon


Nap Ghost

Lebron gets an inspirational call. It is President Xi and Lebron explains to Jordan he is mistaken about Hong Kong.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

I could hear the roots of loneliness creeping through me when the world was hushed at four o'clock in the morning






Fox News has concerns about g v k https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1379199368662822914?s=19

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006
MAGNUM


sombody's gotta look out for omni consumer products
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1379125453462601734

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.



"Why is the Hollywood Left turning on America's billionaire plutocrats?" loving hell.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



“8 dead, dozens injured” is a pretty hilarious chyron considering the damage done in those scenes.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003



that they're treating it like a new development, but go back 34 years to Robocop

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Shoulda gone for the new Robocop where one of the villains is literally a Fox News anchor.

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Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007



Is that the Pointy Haired Boss from Dilbert in the upper left?

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