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Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Beachcomber posted:

I wonder if HBO has their eye on making the DCU their new GoT.

Yes, they are. They are buying up the newer seasons of the CW's 'Arrowverse' shows to stream only on HBOMax, and those shows are incorporating stuff from the movie DC-verse. There have been stirrings of HBOMax aggressively buying up DC content or becoming the sole platform for streaming it. This has ironically hosed up the interconnection of the 'Arrowverse' shows since they frequently crossover, but now cannot be viewed on a single streaming service.

I hate everything I just wrote in the previous paragraph, but not as much as I hate that I actually have that information stored in my brain.

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Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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muscles like this! posted:

HBO Max is going to also be airing the second season of Doom Patrol (and I assume s1 will be on there too) which is technically part of the Arrowverse seeing as in Crisis they showed a clip from it as part of an alternate universe.

Yeah, this is what I meant earlier. HBOMax is buying the streaming rights to all of the future seasons of the Arrowverse shows as part of their attempts to be the go to place for DC content. Batwoman will also only stream on HBOMax.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I would believe it was studio propaganda if the same thing didn't keep happening to Fuller over and over again. The guy produces some amazing TV, but even I can't figure out how he spent that much money on season 1 of American Gods. Like, season 1 was very good, but there had to be a giant pit he was literally burning money in to reach the budget he supposedly spent making those episodes because the show itself doesn't show anything resembling that kind of money.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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He wrote, produced, and filmed an entire episode and decided he didn't like it and cut it from the season. The guy makes good TV but he wastes huge amounts of money to do it.

I mean, it's possible to be a good showrunner and still stick to budgets and work with studios instead of bailing from show to show while burning your bridges behind you.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Kloaked00 posted:

I know this was 5 pages ago, but this is what immediately came to mind for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKkdgnDu3MA

Holy smokes, that trailer is amazing. How did I never catch this movie watching terrible sci-fi movies in the 80's.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Good to see that Henry Cavill has decided to just chill on Netflix and make easy money.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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nonathlon posted:

I'm sure that sometime around the release of FF8, people on SA were joking about FF going into space, crossing-over with Star Trek.

Which might just argue for this entire year being a simulation, based on faulty training data.

People have been joking about the FF movies going to space long before FF8, but I honestly don't believe anyone ever thought it would actually happen until the spin-off movie just decided to go straight sci-fi with Idris Elba.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Goddam, with my three daughters if Frozen 2 had been $30 flat I would have paid that easy. That's a bargain for most families with kids (who you also need to buy concessions for after you get the tickets).

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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FlamingLiberal posted:

Does Will Smith need money or something

His personal life is getting kind of weird as gently caress as of late. Well, let me take that back, his personal life has always been bizarre, it's just been leaking out more into the public lately. The guy needs to just sit back and start engaging in subtle Hollywood nepotism so that his strange family stays flush with money for 3 generations, but instead he's still trying to find the next hustle.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Groovelord Neato posted:

Imagine getting mad reddit figured out your twists by throwing everything at the wall so you make your second season dumb as hell lol

What was the twist that was re-written? Goons repeat this over and over, but if you actually follow Westworld on Reddit, they all talk about it being a joke Nolan made in an interview. But if you know better, do tell, what was the twist they guessed?

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Most people agree that the later seasons were bad, but the last (mini) season was dire on a scale that surprised a lot of people who were still enthusiastic about the show. It was an absolutely bizzare production with scripts that had less dialogue than any other season (and basically any other show on TV), had 3 consecutive episodes where Starbucks cups, water bottles, and laptop cords were clearly appearing in the shot, and literally had one of the protagonists say nothing but, "My queen..." for 5 straight episodes. People noticed something was wrong almost as soon as the season started and the panic was obviously building that the show was about to spectacularly miss it's landing. That last season is almost unreal in how badly produced it was.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I could write way too many pages on GoT and where things went right and wrong, but I'll focus on the one thing that made ending the show the same way GRRM wanted to end the books impossible.

Tyrion is the final villain.

GRRM has dropped hints in interviews for years that his original intent for the books was to use POV writing to gently caress with the reader's ideas of heroes and villains. His goal was to essentially make the reader follow along and cheer for a man inside his thoughts, only to go, "Oh God no!" as they realize he is the villain, while at the same time making the reader sympathize with someone they think is a monster (Jaime) by seeing his thought processes.

Book Tyrion and show Tyrion are the same through the adaptation of Book 3, but after that their characters wildly diverge. The showrunners obviously didn't want to make handsome Peter Dinklage into a poison-tongued villain who gaslights Dany into committing genocide, but when they made that choice they really couldn't end the show the same as the books.

If you want to read about different book Dany and show Dany are, then just watch Lindsay Ellis's YouTube as she does a far better job of pointing out how show Dany lacks most of the character flaws book Dany displays.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Fartbox posted:

Hellboy wasn't even that good

It was unique as gently caress with awesome costumes and creature effects that made it look like this bizarre lived in world, and was an absolute treat to watch. (I'm talking about the first movie, not the remake).

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Rowling is harder to separate from Harry Potter than some other franchises mainly because the contracts that were signed still give her huge say on a lot of decisions. Places were so thirsty for Harry Potter licensing back in the day that she was able to retain a lot of control even as she got paid big bucks. It's one of the reasons the original movies supposedly had to feature only UK talent, because Rowling basically forced that stipulation on the studio. It's also why Disney didn't get Harry Potter theme park options if you believe Jenny Nicholson, since Disney literally couldn't picture any franchise being worth giving up the ability to simply roll over it's original creator.

EDIT: Also people like Tolkien are dead, so you're not suddenly going to have JRR pop up on Twitter posting, "Blue lives matter!" to 100m followers.

Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Aug 19, 2020

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Fartbox posted:

What did the writer of Harry Potter do for everyone to hate her so?

She suddenly inexplicably started posting anti-trans tweets. And then when some people (including the actors from the movies) tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and tried to correct her assuming she wasn't knowingly being a bigot she double-downed and start retweeting right wing edge-lords. It was really something to see.

Never use twitter folks. It rots your brain.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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CG allows directors to change camera angles and positioning on the fly, which many of them prefer. Practical effects usually require extensive pre-planning of the shot so that the effect works from the angle the camera is at. The ability to add in new scenes or do reshoots without needing to specially craft a new model is the biggest reason for CG preference over practical effects.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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AceOfFlames posted:

There's a lot to unpack here but I just have to highlight the fact that Seagal seems to magically lose 50 kg when the two are shown in shillouette, almost as if it's not really him. :thunk:

Keep following the Twitter thread to see the "twist" of this movie.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I'm actually interested in the Synder-cut in the sense that it would at least be tonally consistent with the previous two movies Synder set up before JL. The guy has an aesthetic. It might not be an aesthetic that you like (and I don't), but it is consistent through the previous two movies and the guy obviously was working towards something in the third movie. I saw the Whedon-cut in theaters and it was absolutely dire, but it was a really obviously clashing of two different styles that really made it so universally horrible. Synder's cut might be more of everything I hated about BvS, but at least it will actually suck on its own merits instead of being some half-finished chimera of two directors with totally different tones.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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LOL, once again SMG is the only person who read the review before starting the debate.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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It's also arguable that the success of the early seasons of GoT was due to excellent talent being there in the beginning and then leaving over the course of the show. In fact, there are multiple articles about how apparently DnD had no idea how to run a TV show and the much more experienced stars they had early on did a lot of the leg work. As the seasons progressed, they went from people like Sean Bean & then Charles Dance being leads to...*checks notes*....Emilia Clarke and Kit Harrington (I'm aware Peter Dinklage was trying his best all 8 seasons, but his character traits were essentially written off the show, same for Lena Headey).

Edit: They also lost a lot of behind-the-scenes talent over the seasons. At one point there was a meme about them being proud of promoting some set guy as a script writer because he came up with an idea that they thought was brilliant and which made the audience groan when it happened.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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mycot posted:

tbf there are...reasons why those actors had to leave the show, and they're with GRRM :v:

Oh, I'm not saying that it's DnD's fault they left the show, haha. I'm saying that lots of the little touches that people liked about the early seasons were scenes suggested by the actors. Like, people were raving about the conversations in season 1 that were not from the books, and how good they were (Cersei and Robert discussing their relationship over lunch), and now in hindsight it's been revealed that lots of those scenes were the actors suggesting them, and as those actors left basically the dumbshit twins didn't have anyone to give them good ideas anymore, hence them thinking potato boy was a good character because their bro totally had deep thoughts about him.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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If he somehow tricked more Americans into falling for that character again despite it becoming so well known a decade ago, then more power to him, I'll watch his darn film.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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AceOfFlames posted:

I said it before and I'll say it again: just make a permanent facility in Greece and host every Olympics there.

You say this, but Greece is ironically one of the countries least financially able to handle running the Olympics. If I remember correctly, aren't there several US/Canadian cities that already had the sporting infrastructure for the games and thus didn't have to waste giant piles of money on soon to be rotting stadiums? Those places should just rotate the games.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Bruno was kind of an awkward follow-up to Borat partially because I don't think Cohen, as a British man, realized the full implications of how he was problematically loving around with the unique intersection of race and homophobia in America. I know that sentence sounds kind of hurf blurf, but let me try to explain. A good portion of Bruno involves Cohen using a black child as a punchline for his jokes, specifically when he appears before a mostly black talk show audience to show off his "degenerate gay" ways of mistreating the child. I'm sure that Cohen thought this was funny as gently caress because it was him once again presenting a caricature of "the other" to Americans and them buying it as real, but he was doing it to African American people which has a whole lot of baggage when it comes to both homophobia within certain black communities and also baggage having to do with white people adopting and raising black kids. The people he was lamp-shading had a lot of reasons to be genuinely angry with him, but he presents them as being just as unreasonable and silly as the usual white rednecks he targets.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I really am curious how this is going to affect the MCU in the long run. Black Widow was supposed to be the big debut of the next slate of Marvel releases but now its been pushed back to *checks notes* next May. And that's probably assuming a best-case scenario where we have a safe and effective vaccine widely distributed by then, which is still by no means a guarantee. I can't imagine this is doing any favors behind the scenes either; at least Black Widow was already in the can but I bet a bunch of other productions have hit a snag because of all this.

Looking at the release schedule 2021 is going to be loving packed with MCU stuff; 4 films, all within a few months of each other and it looks like a bunch of those Disney+ series are set to premiere around then as well. I guess they're banking on a blitz to win back confidence and interest in the brand, assuming nothing else gets pushed back.

They also lost Chadwick Boseman completely unexpectedly (even the people working on his last film had no idea he was about to die), which completely fucks up their plan to move Black Panther as the centerpiece of the next set of MCU films. Disney was looking pretty invincible 7 months ago because they were so large and were everywhere, but it turns out a big beast like that needs lots of food and without their theme parks OR their movies they are starving very fast. I'm actually legit worried that Disney might implode simply because every revenue source except for Disney+ (which is apparently carrying the whole company right now), and merch sales is in the red right now. It's bad news when even Disney cheerleaders like Jenny Nicholson are on Twitter talking about how they couldn't be paid enough to go back to the parks (and that's AFTER she already had COVID-19).

Grendels Dad posted:

It's going to be pretty interesting to see whether there will be Marvel fatigue, and whether Disney can react to it with anything but more of the same.

You're making the assumption that there's going to be any movies released in the next year. I've talked about this a bit in the GBS COVID-19 thread, but there won't be a magical moment when everything goes back to normal in the next 12 months. Lots of people are going to have to get used to smaller gatherings and less big events, which is the death knell for theme parks and indoor theaters. They're deader than the airline industry, it's just that no one is admitting it yet.

Drive-in theaters will still be possible, but those are seasonal in large parts of the US and there has never been as many drive-in screens as there has been indoor screens. Their entire funding model is also different than the big theater chains, which again, is a death knell for a lot of studios that NEED big releases.

EDIT: People I know in the music industry are basically coming to grips with this right now. Live events and tours are hosed, and they're moving themselves online into streaming or direct download deals because the chance of concerts starting within the functional lifetime of some short-lived bands is basically zero right now.

Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Oct 8, 2020

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I'm having a harder time watching the second movie (I've been taking it in 20 minute chunks), and I can't put my finger on why I'm having trouble with it this time after I nearly suffocated laughing at the first one in the theaters. Certain segments are just painful to watch, but other ones are top notch poo poo equally as funny as the first movie.

A good example is the debutante ball he takes his "daughter" to. The early parts where he is asking the other sleazy dads about how much they'd pay for his daughter while their own daughters curse them out for being disgusting pervs is A+, but then he does the entire "moonblood" thing and it kind of ruined the segment.

In any case, I like how Cohen got around being recognized by everyone, because THAT was loving brilliant. I cannot believe he got that close to Pence or that the actress playing his daughter got into the White House without a COVID-19 test just days before Trump tested positive. It's that kind of poo poo that makes Cohen's work so much fun

EDIT: For those who haven't seen the movie or read the movie thread, I cannot stress how good the actress playing his daughter is. She literally pulls off whole segments with SBC not being there and still never breaks character and delivers come back lines easily at the same level as Cohen himself.

Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 26, 2020

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I'd argue for both this movie and the previous one that everyone in the audience who is going to enjoy him making fun of Americans realizes that the opening segments are tongue-in-cheek satire of what conservatives think foreigners are actually like. The opening in the second movie is even more ridiculous and over the top than the first ("My name is now Jeffrey Epstein!", the daughter/wife cages, the monkey porno star), that any reasonable person would understand that he's creating this ridiculous caricature of Eastern Europe that is completely unbelievable...and is then getting his marks to totally buy it. I know that he didn't tell the actors in the first movie what he was doing when he filmed the Khazakstan scenes (which was very lovely of him), did he do that again this time?

Also, if I remember the "making of" descriptions of the first movie correctly, Cohen was basically barely dodging police and under constant threat of being deported during the first movie. How the gently caress did he get that close to Pence and not end up on a plane back home?

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Heavy Rain is a such a hilarious pile of stupid poo poo that it's almost unfair to use it against Cage. Like if you only use Heavy Rain as a point of reference then you think that Cage is an incompetent buffoon, who makes non-sensical pseudo-movies with a twist that makes no sense, where in truth, he is that, but also a weird sex pest that violates women's boundaries and literally stalks actresses.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Can someone remind me why we are expecting the movie to be a disaster? I read the Wikipedia synopsis of the plot of the movie and the book and didn't see anything that wacky, so I assume there is some production issue that occurred?

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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muscles like this! posted:

It got a lot of bad press back in 2019. Reports were coming out that studio executives were calling it "unreleasable" after viewing a test screening. They eventually did some reshoots but that was two years after original principle photography ended, which never works out well. No matter what it is going to be some kind of mess.

Oh, okay, I thought there had to be more than that to get compared to Plan 9 or The Room. As best as I could tell none of the stars died mid-production nor is it being made by any zany characters like Tommy, so I thought I was missing something.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Ok, so I watched the Chaos Walking trailer and I understand now why it was likely unwatchable. They essentially are running into the same problem as David Lynch's Dune where they need to tell a complete story with voice-overs but the voice-overs never stop and also are visual and also the characters themselves need to be talking at the same time and everyone on screen should be having a voice-over simultaneously. This was probably doable with a book, but is really hard for a movie.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I think it's unlikely, but I would love for the movie to contain even half of the gay male gaze homosexual subtext that pervades the first 4 MGS games. It's not even subtle by the time 4 rolls around, but even MGS1 was full of gay subtext, and it makes fan's heads explode sometimes when you point it out.

Also Issac is owed a good gay subtext movie after he was robbed of his Fin/Poe relationship.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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The actual shift going on in Disney/Lucafilm has nothing to do with erasing the movies and everything to do with a shift in focus from the movies over to a TV showed based release schedule. You don't need to read rumor mills or watch weird Youtube videos to see this, you can just look at how the theme park is shifting the focus of the Star Wars land as well as the Lucasfilm release schedule. The idea of shifting from movies to TV shouldn't normally be a big source of drama, but apparently the executives that work on the movies (Kennedy et.al.) are completely separate from the executives that worked on the TV shows, so the shift is basically going to make one group of people eat poo poo in the coming years to the benefit of a different group of people. If Lucasfilm wasn't some weird factional warzone it probably would not be a big deal at all.

EDIT: To the best of my knowledge, the Marvel studio is apparently the exact opposite right now, which is why they are pivoting over to TV shows with the same casts and crews as the movies without any internal bullshit drama.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Barry Convex posted:

Steve Mnuchin's wife made a movie, and by "made" I mean she wrote, directed, and stars in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TBBE3FyHlI

LOL, at least she is staying on theme to her real-world self. Christ.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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8one6 posted:

The thing I remember from that was Emilia Clarke admitting she didn't know what film noir or a femme fatale was.

That's a bad example, because both of those things are not directions for a scene. Plenty of directors have gotten good performances put of Clarke, so I doubt the trouble was with her.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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The best thing about CBS All Access (or whatever it's calling itself now) is that they keep trying to entice me to resubscribe with "1 month for free" deals. So once a year I can just use that, stream all of the new (absolutely dire) Star Trek series, and then cancel it again. I don't think I've ever paid CBS a dime for three seasons worth of Discovery and one season of Picard.

Meanwhile, the one time I cancelled Netflix they basically sent an email saying "Sorry to see you go (don't let the door hit you on the rear end on the way out)". Because they knew I'd be back, and they were right.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Speaking of shitheads that need to be forgotten, the entire female cast of Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel just popped out the woodwork over the last 24 hours to remind us why Joss Whedon is a terrible human being.

Also Whedon got recently shitcanned by HBO from a show he was making for them called The Nevers and I just looked up the premise and it reads like someone wrote a parody of every Whedon TV show ever:


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Victorian women find themselves with unusual abilities, relentless enemies and a mission that may change the world.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Honestly I think it was pretty loving funny to include that in the trailer. It's like that moment in X-Men 3 where Juggernaut shouts, "I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" and I thought I was having a stroke because internet memes should not be in actual movies. Except now I embrace the hell-timeline we live in and am just rolling with the stupid.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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I'm no lover of BvS, but that scene in Congress absolutely was not one of the things I thought was a problem. It's obvious that Supes doesn't want to look the guy in the eye, as he feels very guilty about causing the situation that destroyed the dude's life. He didn't see the bomb not because of some galaxy-brained techno solution of Lex, but because he was mentally fallible and NEVER LOOKED, thus he "didn't see it". It made sense in the movie, cutting the lead changed the story but didn't make the story worse in any way.

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Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
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Sandkings is a great sci-fi short story, and might make a good movie, but I don't know if there is enough content for a full movie honestly. How quickly things go horribly wrong is pretty funny though. GRRM really was once a really good short story wizard, I kind of miss it.

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