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hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Leith Maclaine posted:

Actually, you are right. I forgot the 2 kill N1.

##vote b-

the second kill was penny's vengeance ability I thought?

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Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

hambeet posted:

the second kill was penny's vengeance ability I thought?

That is probably what happened but I am now questioning it.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Leith Maclaine posted:

That is probably what happened but I am now questioning it.

:stare:

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Charms has been exceptionally quiet despite obviously keeping up with the thread

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

Oh no, not me
We never lost control




I'm not upgraded yet.

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Did anyone else get to take a night 0 action?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



xiw posted:

The only claims I don't have at this point are:
* Lumpen N1/N2/N3 target
* Hal's N1 target
* hambeet's N3 target.

i targeted charms last night

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Leith Maclaine posted:

I don't have any knowledge about the night kills. I am at the point where I am not trusting that we have all the information at all. I am not assuming anything.

yeah never mind, xiw pointed out something I missed which was cpigs flip says the vig is used the next night.

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

hambeet posted:

yeah never mind, xiw pointed out something I missed which was cpigs flip says the vig is used the next night.

Okay, in that case, then I am wrong.

xiw
Sep 25, 2011

i wake up at night
night action madness nightmares
maybe i am scum

Cpig Haiku contest 2020 winner


We've got <3 hours and no remote consensus. clearly hambeet's going nowhere ##unvote

Let's look at the n1 kill - someone is lying about their action and did it.

candidates for doing the N1 kill:

ham
leith
b-
charms

unlikely:

hal (maybe, risky for later given that mason is provable

almost certainly excluded

b- (messenger)
lumpen (jailed)
sal (jailed)
RF because he claimed failure on lumpen before Sal
me because this is my list

not getting traction on Ham
Leith has been weird today, the whole 'what happened with the n1 kill' confusion is strange to compare to this earlier post:

Leith Maclaine posted:

I'm surprised that 2 penny didn't revenge kill me.

I believe Leith's roleclaim because they have a similar mechanic to me.

but a scum tracker's going to take advantage of knowing they're less likely to be tracked, and an unreliable one isn't much use to them, so

##vote Leith maclaine

I will be around on and off but the office is off to the pub now for someone's last day so unpredictable.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



xiw posted:

Okay here's my chart with the missing info - please let me know if there are any more errors.
pre:
N1: two kills (one NK action, one 2penny revenge kill per flip)
N2: one kill (CPIG), two more kills between Lumpen/Steak/Hambeet
N3: no kills - mass roleblock or jail.

So we're looking at at least 3 lies in this table in N1 and N2 to provide the kills.  

Who       |  Role claim  |  Upgrade | N0 | Night 1 claim    | Night 2 claim         | Night 3           |
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sal       |  jailor      |  Yes     |    | Lumpen *         | Humalong *            | Xiw FAIL          |
Leith     |  tracker     |  No      |    | RF/AA, no action | Sal/Cpig, visited Hum | B/Ham, FAIL       |
Hal       |  mason       |  No      |    |                  | Sal *                 | Hum, FAIL         |
Xiw       |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Cpig/hum/hal     | Sal/hal/xiw           | Lump/xiw/hal FAIL |
Humalong  |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Xiw              | Hambeet FAIL          | Lumpen FAIL       |
Lumpen    |  ?? action   |          |    | ? FAIL           | ?                     | ? FAIL            |
RF        |  ?? action   |  No      |    | Lumpen FAIL *    | Sal                   | Lumpen FAIL       |
charms    |  ?? action   |          |    | Leith            | Leith                 | Hum FAIL          |
b-minus   |  messenger   |  No      | AA | Hal *            | Lumpen *              | Lumpen FAIL       |
hambeet   |  redirector  |  No      |    | Cpig             | Steak                 | ?                 |
                                
* = the target confirmed this action

Deados: 
2penny SCUM     revenger
cpig TOWN       vig provider                          
steak TOWN      bodyguard                          
illegalys TOWN  doc
AA  3P          random ability  
ETR TOWN        challenger

1. Note that Leith's claim came after Sal's claim of jailing hum. 

Correction: sal said his action was successful last night and he was the only one. you put failed.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



xiw posted:

We've got <3 hours and no remote consensus. clearly hambeet's going nowhere ##unvote

Let's look at the n1 kill - someone is lying about their action and did it.

candidates for doing the N1 kill:

ham
leith
b-
charms

unlikely:

hal (maybe, risky for later given that mason is provable

almost certainly excluded

b- (messenger)
lumpen (jailed)
sal (jailed)
RF because he claimed failure on lumpen before Sal
me because this is my list

not getting traction on Ham
Leith has been weird today, the whole 'what happened with the n1 kill' confusion is strange to compare to this earlier post:


I believe Leith's roleclaim because they have a similar mechanic to me.

but a scum tracker's going to take advantage of knowing they're less likely to be tracked, and an unreliable one isn't much use to them, so

##vote Leith maclaine

I will be around on and off but the office is off to the pub now for someone's last day so unpredictable.

you are still ignoring my question.

if you gave town a vig and they didn't comment on receiving it, wouldn't you think that odd?

did cpig point that out? no.

so what did he do instead?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



and what do you think of b-minus hiding behind your case?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

Oh no, not me
We never lost control




hambeet posted:



if you gave town a vig and they didn't comment on receiving it, wouldn't you think that odd?

Not even a little

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

SalTheBard posted:

My action on N3 of jailing Xiw was successful

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



Retro Futurist posted:

Not even a little

I totally would, especially from cpig who it looks like was completely telegraphing his moves in thread.

I have seen people flipped in past games for that exact same reason.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002



and especially in light of him trying to find his target (me) through an ill thought out gambit.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002




you think you'd remember something like this, especially as the target.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.


Plaster Town Cop

Just an hour left, time to find consensus.

##vote b-minus1
Would also vote Sal or Humalong.

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Staying on b-, I'm offline in about 45 minutes.

charms
Oct 14, 2012




b-minus1 and Leith are not on the same side, so I think we should get one of them. But b-1 is more suspicious, and has a less useful ability as I understand it.

##vote b-minus1

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop


Votecount for Day 4

b-minus1 (4): hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, charms
Leith Maclaine (3): SalTheBard, Retro Futurist, xiw
Retro Futurist (2): Hal Incandenza, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, Leith Maclaine
Mr. Humalong (1): b-minus1
xiw (0): SalTheBard, SalTheBard
hambeet (0): xiw, b-minus1, b-minus1, xiw
Lumpen (0): b-minus1, b-minus1
SalTheBard (0): Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 04th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CST -- that's in about 1 hour, 45 minutes.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.


Plaster Town Cop

My mistake, we have an hour more than I thought. Who uses CST?

Everyone, who are your top 3 suspects?

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.


Lumpen posted:

My mistake, we have an hour more than I thought. Who uses CST?

Everyone, who are your top 3 suspects?

People in Texas.


And now the mod post count is accurate.

Hal Insandenza
Feb 12, 2004




Speculating on the whether or not someone would telegraph they got a vig is dumb, it is different for everyone

I would be fine moving to b-, would also be fine with beet, still ok with RF too

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



If we are wrong tomorrow is LYLO

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Did anyone else get a n0 action like Binus is claiming?

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Mr. Humalong posted:

Did anyone else get a n0 action like Binus is claiming?

Not I

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



##vote binus

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



interested to see if anyone hammers

xiw
Sep 25, 2011

i wake up at night
night action madness nightmares
maybe i am scum

Cpig Haiku contest 2020 winner


ugh

One of:
ham
leith
b-
charms

pretty much has to be the scum who did the n1 kill.

b- is the bottom of my list out of those four but still on that list, and if they are it'd pretty much clear hambeet for tomorrow which would be useful.

I would prefer leith or charms or ham though.

##vote b-minus1

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



xiw posted:

ugh

One of:
ham
leith
b-
charms

pretty much has to be the scum who did the n1 kill.

b- is the bottom of my list out of those four but still on that list, and if they are it'd pretty much clear hambeet for tomorrow which would be useful.

I would prefer leith or charms or ham though.

##vote b-minus1

lol :redhammer:

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop


Votecount for Day 4

b-minus1 (6): hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, charms, Mr. Humalong, xiw
Leith Maclaine (2): SalTheBard, Retro Futurist, xiw, xiw
Retro Futurist (1): Hal Incandenza, Mr. Humalong, Leith Maclaine, Leith Maclaine, Mr. Humalong
Mr. Humalong (1): b-minus1
xiw (0): SalTheBard, SalTheBard
hambeet (0): xiw, b-minus1, b-minus1, xiw
Lumpen (0): b-minus1, b-minus1
SalTheBard (0): Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen, Lumpen

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 04th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CST -- that's in about 47 minutes.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.




B-minus1, Independent Nation-Aligned Poland has be Exiled
Power Name: Poland Can Into Space
Basic Power: "You can send message to another player
You can send a message Night 0"
Upgrade Power: "Each night you can ask a *simple* true/false question about the set-up to the Mod and they will reply honestly.
Questions are answered from the state of the game prior to the roles being assigned.
Mod can veto a question if they feel it would break the game."
Upgrade Target: Prussia

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.


No one has died in the night, it is Now D5.

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop


Votecount for Day 5



Not Voting (10): b-minus1, charms, Hal Incandenza, hambeet, Leith Maclaine, Lumpen, Mr. Humalong, Retro Futurist, SalTheBard, xiw

With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 08th, 2020 at 6 p.m. CST -- that's in about 3 days, 4 hours.

The current day's mod post count is: 2

Hal Insandenza
Feb 12, 2004




action failed again, etc...

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Action failed once again

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005


I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!




Fallen Rib

Good news is nobody will ever worried about being jailed again. This is when Leith, Xiw and Lumpen start a scum push on me.

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charms
Oct 14, 2012




Unsuccessful, targeted xiw. Either Sal did the mass jail or something weird is going on.

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