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charms posted:Someone else's action would have failed, too. But he forgot to mention it. Not necessarily. Some jailers will cause all actions to fail on the target, some will only cause kills to fail.
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charms posted:Okay. So which kind is Sal then? Ooh drat, ok good catch because I'm not a killing role, steak's thing should have failed. That settles it then ##vote steak
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Jan 30, 2020 20:09
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Mr. Steak posted:omg. can y'all please recall who was jailed and who i targetted, before being so trigger happy? gently caress I mixed up ham and hum. I'm trying to cut back on coffee it's not going well ##unvote
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Steak I still want you to show me where you called Lumpen town because that also straight up looks like a lie
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Jan 30, 2020 22:42
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Mr. Steak posted:also, at the time my stronger towmreads binus and sal both had a bunch of votes on them, so i didnt want to add to those At the time lumpen had more votes than binus, if I’m rereading correctly
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Jan 31, 2020 03:32
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We're at the point where even if steak is town, he's caused too much confusion and killing him will give us more info than keeping him alive will. It's why you have to be careful lying as town and be, like, good at it. Though he's probably not town anyways, too many moving parts for this one.
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Feb 1, 2020 01:13
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Steak I just want to point out one thing you said earlier, your gambit did not benefit the town. IF you're telling the whole truth at this point, you blocked those kills IN SPITE OF your lies not because of them, because as Lumpen pointed out its absolutely absurd that scum tried to kill 2 different people who were being watched. If you're town here you just happened to be up against some very stupid people, that's all
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Feb 1, 2020 17:51
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My action also failed so someone definitely did something. If it wasn't Sal I assume we have a lightning rod
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Feb 2, 2020 17:26
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If there was a lightning rod that would likely make everyone except Sal fail. If there were another RB we should have seen it come up by now. Doesn't say anything about Sal's alignment but it's the most likely explanation
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Feb 2, 2020 18:59
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Huh, that’s weird then, I don’t know what could have caused this other than a lightning rod. Sal have you at any point gotten an “action successful/failed” message?
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Feb 2, 2020 22:46
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SalTheBard posted:I've received 3 Because that means you apparently had the only successful action last night. Either you’re lying or there’s a second lighting rod
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Feb 3, 2020 03:29
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More specifically if you didn’t get results at all then it could be ambiguous, but with an explicit successful result that leaves 3 possibilities 1) you did a mass jail and lied 2) there are 2 lightning rod roles in this game which makes the mod part of my brain sweaty 3) some third option that I can’t fathom but maybe lumpen will condescend to me about later
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Feb 3, 2020 03:34
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My targets were N1 lumpen (failed) N2 sal N3 lumpen (failed) My role isn’t particularly useful right now so i don’t have anything good to add here
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Feb 3, 2020 05:44
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Ooh, a backup! If someone had a vackuo/gravedigger type role they could have gotten the lightning rod after the first one died.
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Feb 3, 2020 19:41
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So in that case Sal is likely telling the truth about at least that much
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Feb 3, 2020 19:52
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Pig getting his vig back seems like a big stretch, not sure how I feel about how readily everyone is running with it
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Feb 4, 2020 00:15
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Leith Maclaine posted:I can see voting Sal, RF, or B- Sorry, your case here on me is that I didn't vote town? And you say that right after casing the other two for doing that?
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Feb 4, 2020 17:47
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SalTheBard posted:Leith scum making poo poo case. Scum 101 Yeah I actually think I might have caught them in something here. That's just a straight up "fly under the radar/see what sticks" post
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Feb 4, 2020 18:15
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I'd vote binus or leith today I think
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Feb 4, 2020 18:43
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We almost certainly have an SK or second scum team going by the 3 kills (1 Mafia, 1 vig, 1 unaccounted for) so Not Town =! Mafia. I don't feel Leith is town after today, but that doesn't mean they were on a team with 2 Penny.
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Feb 4, 2020 19:43
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charms posted:The best reason I can think of for scum doing the mass roleblock is if they wanted to stop the last CPig vig from happening. It goes with either theory about what happened to vig - either they got the first but not the second, or they just learned about it with the CPig flip and wanted to shut it down. Because of Sal's claimed ability, that puts them in the spotlight. If Sal's scum and gets lynched, it'd ruin the entire point of that move to stop an ally from being killed and would actually leave the secret alliance in a worse position than if they didn't do the omni block. So a Sal lynch is not an option for me today. Lumpen posted:That's a good point and gives Sal a motive for popping the MegaJail. If the Vig was in the wild and they feared it was going to hit one of them, the MegaJail would protect them from that Vig and also wipe out any other Town power roles that might catch them, and give them a chance to push for a mis-vote today. That might be worth forsaking their own NK. Except again, we know we had 3 kill attempts N2. So how do you guys reconcile that with this track? Scum would have to know the vig was still out, but not have it themselves. How does any of that work with Pig dead and 2 kill attempts according to flipped town Steak?
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Feb 4, 2020 21:09
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Mr. Humalong posted:this post pings me and I'm surprised it flew under the radar for so many people If you're trying to make the arguement that anyone who accuses someone of being an SK is scum, that's usually true but in this case there was context.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:33
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Leith Maclaine posted:We have already had a scum claim to be 3P. We have already had a 3P revealed. And now RF is making an argument for multiple scum teams or another 3P? We had a survivor flip, that's not the same thing at all. And unless Steak lied again (and if he did so help me god steak) then we had 3 kills in one night. No matter how you slice we more likely than not have an SK
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Feb 4, 2020 21:48
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Cool that I'm suddenly the vote leader with less than 6 hours to go based on nothing, def not suspicious at all. ##vote Leith
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Feb 4, 2020 21:48
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Leith Maclaine posted:Would you care to at least inform us of your role? lol
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Feb 4, 2020 22:44
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I'm not upgraded yet.
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Feb 4, 2020 23:42
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hambeet posted:
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Feb 5, 2020 00:37
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Damnit, now we have to do actual mafia instead of relying on night actions! ##vote leith
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Feb 5, 2020 22:14
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I've claimed all my targets and success/failures. And my lieth vote is carried over from yesterday
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Feb 5, 2020 22:39
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Mr. Humalong posted:yes, strange I can at least usually understand when people are suspicious of me but you're saying Lumpen is scum? He's the towniest one here
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Feb 5, 2020 22:40
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Leith Maclaine posted:Nope, Sal now has that role with the massjail. How does the mass jail make Sal town? I don't really think Sal is scum but that's nothing to do with an ability
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Feb 6, 2020 00:48
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Leith Maclaine posted:Mass Jail prevents scum from killing a town player. We are probably getting close to the end and locking everything down one night delays that which right now with only 1 scum kill is in the towns interest. Except that we'd also immediately have all voted Sal today so they'd be trading that kill for him. Not to mention that the mass jail also stops whatever investigative roles we have left so town comes into the day with less info.
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Leith Maclaine posted:So if Sal hadn't done the mass jail, you would have said he is scum. And the fact that he did do it, means it was an anti-town move. And yet your vote is on me? SalTheBard posted:Jesus loving Christ Sorry guys, was I unclear like 5 posts up here Retro Futurist posted:How does the mass jail make Sal town? I don't really think Sal is scum but that's nothing to do with an ability
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Feb 6, 2020 18:00
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Neither my target nor the country targetting me have flipped so I don't want to claim anything yet. I get Lumpen's thought process but if it's wrong it hands scum the game
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I suspect scum have fake claims as well, but fine whatever I'm not interested in fighting everyone else on it. Also mine are both weird and not countries but I don't know if that means anything. I'm Aragon and my target is the Papal States
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Feb 6, 2020 20:48
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Cool so I was right and scum now have a roadmap to amping up their powers dope.
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Lumpen posted:RF and Xiw both acted really weird about this in contrast with everyone else and both used the same "concern". Yes that's called logic. I mean even if you were on to something that would mean that a) Amni made this game solvable solely off a mass claim and b) didn't give scum fake claims.
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Feb 6, 2020 22:06
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Leith Maclaine posted:All of this giving scum a road map talk is just an excuse to hide information. Except that I did give the information out. Pray tell, how was any of this useful to town? What useful thing did we learn?
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Feb 6, 2020 22:23
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The sheer amount of shameless rolefishing from leith this game is just absurd.
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I'm sticking to my theory of a universal backup who got the lightning rod.
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