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harperdc posted:Sebring with the Cup cars would be unreal. All three series at once. 
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BRING BACK THE RINGERS https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2...v3KjwtylCmapomA
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devmd01 posted:All three series at once. I’d watch NASCAR for that.
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https://twitter.com/hoonable/status/1281272272825745413 nascar is officially back on top
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Cygni posted:NASCAR..... good?? Wait 5 minutes, they'll do something stupid
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CactusWeasle posted:Wait 5 minutes, they'll do something stupid I'm pretty sure underglow counts as both good and stupid.
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CactusWeasle posted:Wait 5 minutes, they'll do something stupid The underglow is a touch random, but has the possibility to look cool. This: https://twitter.com/Asteroidstrike9/status/1281019601388744704?s=20 ...is rear end. e- "Coom" is not a word. "Cool" is. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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the numbers thing could work fine if the designers were allowed to put any effort at all into it i'm positive that stringent brand standards, corporate oversight, and/or lazy design is going to be the thing that kills these cars
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Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin'
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' We've suffered through Darrell loving Waltrip literally out loud shouting that he wants Junior to win, so we can deal with anything Jeff does
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He owns the 48 and occasionally he seems a little biased but I think overall he does fine. ^ LET'S GO RACIN BOYS AND DANICAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I'm incredibly bad at paying attention in general but I asked in my group chat if anyone was excited for the xfinity race and nobody would have known if I hadn't mentioned it I am way more online than any racing fan I know but still How is NASCAR so bad at promoting the schedule
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Pinecone Sample posted:I'm incredibly bad at paying attention in general unironically learned from this post there's an xfinity race today
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' There have been owners of teams doing the broadcasts forever, it's nothing new at this point really.
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' I think my take would be that hes just commentating, hes not working in race control and determining penalties on track and such. So i guess the worst someone could do is steer TV attention towards the car they have a financial interest in, but at least in Jeff's case, he seems to very rarely bring up the #48 unless someone does first. At least from what I've picked up on.
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' You bring up Gordon, but not Junior who runs 2 cars in xfinity, commentator for NBC and also has a nascar podcast?
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iwentdoodie posted:You bring up Gordon, but not Junior who runs 2 cars in xfinity, commentator for NBC and also has a nascar podcast? Both of these are conflicts of interest but not quite as laughable as the owner of the now-defunct team caught in perhaps the most egregious cheating scandal in NASCAR history standing up for every decision that the sanctioning body makes in his paid position on FOX Sports.
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big nipples big life posted:purple underglow is always one of my first mods on a car in saint's row. Now take this one step further and use the garage music from Saint’s Row the Third in NASCAR broadcasts.
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CBJSprague24 posted:The underglow is a touch random, but has the possibility to look cool. This: Plastering the car in obscure machine tool collet holders is dumb, expecting anyone to recognize the shillouette is galaxy-brain
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' Jeff G does a good job of calling races and not promoting his own interests. If you like it and enjoy watching, just put aside the conflicts and enjoy it. If you can't, find some other way to watch or listen. I don't mind the broadcasts, but my favorite way to follow races is MRN broadcasts with Claire B Lang and Dave Moody. Larry Mac is informative but he just kinda grinds on me for some reason. I think the rest of the FOX crew is the best of the lot for TV.
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Spaced God posted:unironically learned from this post there's an xfinity race today do what now?
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Dik Hz posted:NASCAR is a small, incestuous community. Most of the teams are within 30 miles of each other, and everyone is loving everyone else's wife. The pit guys are particularly sketchy. There's no way to put together a broadcast team that doesn't include some conflict of interest. Totally get what you mean, along with the others mentioning Waltrip. just getting back into the sport after a long time away, hadn't fully realized the interconnections between NASCAR media and NASCAR itself as a kid. and thanks for the rec! i'll check out MRN
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plus to be frank, any car owner in the booth has been far better at maintaining objectivity than darrell waltrip openly rooting for whatever random driver he felt like at any given time
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Honestly I had completely forgot that Jeff "owns" the #48. In the beginning wasn't it basically a, hey Jeff if you're gonna vouch for the kid you're gonna be on the hook as owner, combined with a, hey Jeff you've been the man for like 15 years so we're going to give you ownership stake, kind of situation? Then when NASCAR made a max team field Hendrick could basically say, I don't own the #48, Jeff Gordon does? I don't notice Jeff being any kind of bias. Excluding DW most owner/family member commentators are usually pretty fair from what I remember. Exceptions would be like when a JTG Daugherty car was like unbelievably in the top 10 and Brad Daugherty and the commenting crew would be like, hey man take a loving bow your poo poo box car finished well or when Dale Jarrett won the 500 and the guys in the booth basically told Ned Jarrett to call his son home. Those kind of moments are kind of cool rather than bias douche chill kind of stuff in my opinion.
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To what extent does it matter if an announcer is objective? They aren't personally controlling who we get to see, they're commentating and adding opinion on whatever is happening. Announcers can and do have wrong as hell opinions all the time and honestly that's half the fun sometimes. If the 48 was suddenly getting more airtime because Jeff is in the booth, that's an issue. But considering who is in that car and what is going on with it, that car is going to get a ton of airtime no matter who is calling the race.
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Does Jeff even have any real ownership stake in the car, or is he the "owner" on paper for NASCAR purposes? I remember entry lists used to be full of cars "owned" by the owner's wife or kids.
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bigbillystyle posted:or when Dale Jarrett won the 500 and the guys in the booth basically told Ned Jarrett to call his son home. Those kind of moments are kind of cool rather than bias douche chill kind of stuff in my opinion. I had to look this up on YouTube and yeah it owns a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-pUbAISj7Q
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IOwnCalculus posted:To what extent does it matter if an announcer is objective? They aren't personally controlling who we get to see, they're commentating and adding opinion on whatever is happening. Announcers can and do have wrong as hell opinions all the time and honestly that's half the fun sometimes. normally it's fine and i don't care but DW was just awful about it. just like he was everything in the booth! god i'm so glad he's gone
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kidcoelacanth posted:normally it's fine and i don't care but DW was just awful about it. just like he was everything in the booth! It's so nice to watch a race now. Mac is annoying as gently caress but still so much better. Also, in case yall didnt see this. https://twitter.com/nascarcasm/status/1281412494729318401?s=19
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bigbillystyle posted:Honestly I had completely forgot that Jeff "owns" the #48. In the beginning wasn't it basically a, hey Jeff if you're gonna vouch for the kid you're gonna be on the hook as owner, combined with a, hey Jeff you've been the man for like 15 years so we're going to give you ownership stake, kind of situation? Then when NASCAR made a max team field Hendrick could basically say, I don't own the #48, Jeff Gordon does? I don't notice Jeff being any kind of bias. Excluding DW most owner/family member commentators are usually pretty fair from what I remember. Exceptions would be like when a JTG Daugherty car was like unbelievably in the top 10 and Brad Daugherty and the commenting crew would be like, hey man take a loving bow your poo poo box car finished well or when Dale Jarrett won the 500 and the guys in the booth basically told Ned Jarrett to call his son home. Those kind of moments are kind of cool rather than bias douche chill kind of stuff in my opinion. They showed Daugherty's reaction in ESPN's infield studio when Dinger won at Watkins Glen in 2014 (JTG's only win so far) and it was  . He jumped up and down and hugged Rusty Wallace.Outlaw Mailman posted:Does Jeff even have any real ownership stake in the car, or is he the "owner" on paper for NASCAR purposes? I remember entry lists used to be full of cars "owned" by the owner's wife or kids. Jeff has an equity stake in HMS and is the heir apparent to run the team once Rick hangs it up. It used to be one person could only be listed on two cars, hence why Rick Hendrick's dad was the listed owner on the 25, Gordon was on the 48, Jack Roush's mom was on one of the Roush cars (99?), and Mark Martin was on the 17 (though I think he also had a financial interest in that team when it started). e- Here's a good case study in this. (Roush's mom was on Kurt Busch's 97, team manager Geoff Smith was on the 16. Childress was on all four RCR cars which doesn't make sense): https://fantasyracingcheatsheet.com/nascar/races/entrylist/2005/daytona-international-speedway/daytona-500/1 CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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brendog posted:Hi all i've lurked around here long enough to get around to asking a (off-topic) question- does it bother anyone else that Jeff Gordon is in the booth for fox, conflict-of-interest wise? from the broadcasts i've seen he has been evenhanded but, like, how does one both partially own a team and be a main commentator at the same time? i like Jeff but just askin' NASCAR and NBC were forced to confront this about twenty years ago; when ESPN decided it didn't want the NASCAR license anymore we got away from professional broadcast teams and went to more or less who's available from the Who's Who. NASCAR, Fox, and NBC all shrugged and said "looks fine to me" and we've all just accepted the blatant homerism as the cost of doing business. As mentioned above, blatant cheater (and, if oldtime NASCAR poster leica is to be believed, absolute shitheart) Mikey Waltrip was basically allowed to lie, cheer, and plug his way through broadcasts with no repercussions. He wasn't even the most egregious; Rusty Wallace used to do Busch/Nextel broadcasts and several times a year you could hilariously see them hem and haw and not mention his son Stephen boneheadedly wrecking himself or others. With DW, it was basically presented to us as a feature, not a bug. The end of the Daytona 500 in 2001 (you know, the Dale Takes A Right Turn race) was literally DW pulling for his brother. Contrast this with Ned Jarrett, the consummate professional and Southern gentleman, who remained almost entirely professional calling many of his son Dale's victories, only breaking up that I remember after he won the first time at Daytona. (After.)
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Elitist Bitch posted:Ned was A Great Broadcaster 10-4. Dale is pretty decent too, but Ned was all-time.
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IOwnCalculus posted:To what extent does it matter if an announcer is objective? They aren't personally controlling who we get to see, they're commentating and adding opinion on whatever is happening. Announcers can and do have wrong as hell opinions all the time and honestly that's half the fun sometimes. Don't forget too that Robbie "Mo-mo-mentum" Buhl was in the booth doing Indycar races in the Versus TV days. He was part-owner of Dreyer and Reinbold during that time and was calling races that his car was running in. I recall Bob and Scott Goodyear, I think, joking with him about having to write a big check if/after his car wrecked.
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