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Monathin posted:Also I missed a 'no less than' in my op, but I'll stated again for those who jumped down anyway: here is my list of people I'm suspicious of max pod bif
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:15 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 10:42 |
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I also don't know how much workday shitposting I can do in this game, as my new job starts tomorrow and they might even have somethingawful or discord blocked! it's okay I'll probably be able to change that
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:17 |
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Monathin posted:Good list, I'm proud of you Solus. amending list: max pod bif mona
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:17 |
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also fuckin' lol the other thread is five pages long
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:19 |
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Podima posted:and it's all poo poo, op don't I know it, it's entertaining to watch steak flail
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:33 |
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SalTheBard posted:Don't mind me just warming up my vig finger over here..... did you vig your fingers off
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:49 |
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Mr. Steak posted:shut up solus I will not
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:50 |
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SalTheBard posted:If by vig you mean bandsaw in shop class then yes I did here we see the downsides of the tactic known as "shopping around" (also are you for serious, because if so goddamn)
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 18:58 |
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Podima posted:This is extremely good and I may pick it up, much faster to type than "execute" tbh. now I get to make axecution jokes so I'm down with this
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 19:36 |
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Bernstrike posted:Oh wow Anidav is in the bad thread haha the one useful thing I got from the bad thread is that toalpaz is an advisor dear scum in the other thread, pls to kill toalpaz
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 20:56 |
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xiw posted:Do we know anything about scum's communication abilities? Can they pass combat information back to the other side or is it just about them getting information for targetting kills? They can't send messages to the other faction's leader, but they can get information from that faction's leader.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 21:26 |
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SalTheBard posted:Was that in the rules or where did you see that? It's a bit thinner than I remembered, apparently, but this implies to me at least that scum can't communicate back to the captains.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 21:47 |
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SolusLunes posted:
oh also that's a quote from #pregame-chat not my confessional WEW
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 21:48 |
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Bernstrike posted:Prove it i'll fuckin' fight you
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 21:51 |
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SalTheBard posted:So it's speculation more than fact? SalTheBard posted:Hmmm. Right now going to ##vote solus. You seemed very confident saying it, but now are trying to back track. This is not to say I won't change my mind later. man sal you're goin' hard on this one
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 22:28 |
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SalTheBard posted:This was (and currently is) my line of thinking too. If pod, or any of a number of players had popped off w/ that info I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but it seemed weird coming from Solus (who, as far as I know, has never played a Solider game before). I obsessively read OPs and pregame chats for anything that might help me. Also it's 'soldier'.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 23:38 |
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Bernstrike posted:Usurping this discussion: why would town players be so concerned with how scums communicate? ask xiw
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2020 23:39 |
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hambeet posted:sal you flip back on this one super easy yo I'm not feeling that you're pushing back on sal's retraction in good faith ##vote beet
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2020 00:16 |
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hambeet posted:well sal is one of the three on my list from this. i'm not sure what else you're expecting me to do? don't really have something "else" for you to do, but it feels like you're trying to manufacture something scummy from sal where there isn't anything
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2020 00:19 |
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Monathin posted:I am actually going to circle back to this, because it does worry me a tiny bit. I don't mind being the slower thread, but I do want to make sure there's enough posting contributions that we can do our due diligence and suss out the scum. 1. Max. His style of "prod the other person with questions so as to give them enough rope to hang themselves" I have found very difficult to figure out if he's town or scum. I'd rather just know outright instead of having to wonder about whether this is town Max actually trying to figure things out or scum Max trying to set someone up for a fall and not looking like they were involved in it at all. 2. Rearguard. (more to come re: me and responses, but I wanted this to be a separate post for ease of reading/spreadsheeting)
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 02:56 |
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hambeet posted:and who should have been doing the convincing? Ideally, I'd hoped someone else would have chimed in on it before I went to bed. I find I have a tendency to get stuck in in a D1 argument to my detriment, and I'm not interested in doing that this time around. hambeet posted:but solus has not posted in the thread since i responded to them? do you think there really has been that opportunity? He's right you know, I don't fault beet for not arguing the point more. I do find it odd, however, given how verbose he normally is despite being new. Max posted:I personally also want Solus to return and continue that argument with beet. So Max, how do you feel about how beet seems from that argument? I'll continue it. I want you to put your position down on the table and tell me how you really feel, though. Because I'm not interested in letting you snipe from outside arguments and fly under the radar, as much as I can. Anyway, if I had to rank a top three, it's: 1. beet 2. nep 3. max Why nep? The fact that he stood pretty fast on the fact that he was voting tithin, on a platform of that they were basically pro-playing mafia instead of speculating on mechanics. Finally I see a lot of calls for my posting but you fuckers I have to sleep and work for like two thirds of the day, and newjob currently does not afford opportunities to shitpost while I'm at work. Perhaps it will starting next week, but we'll see. Chillax.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:02 |
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anyway I'm sure I hosed up my reading because I just read seven pages in short order so let me know what scumslips I've made by the way, I seem to have forgotten my D1 lucky charm so let me get that out of the way: i'm scum
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:04 |
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Max posted:Also what about anything else that's happened this game day stands out to you? MMT's callout of Sal without any response from Sal. While I still think Sal's likely town, I'm very interested in his response. It's not an either-or thing for him and beet being scum, too. I'm perfectly willing to say I have a poo poo scumdar. xiw and tithin's interactions. I think tithin is coming from a townie place with "play mafia goddamnit" and xiw continuing to go after him is interesting and honestly now I might want to put him in my top three instead of you. Lastly I read this back and I want to bring this back around: SalTheBard posted:2. In theory I can do either row, but am way more effective in front This is... actually pretty against the spirit of Mona's asking that question. Sal has thrown out a decent bit of info here. Is it because he's not worried about being NK'd? Now I'm wondering if I should swap Sal and beet, despite saying it's not an either-or thing.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:37 |
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Nep-Nep posted:Just an aside but she, please poo poo I'm even normally pretty good about going with a they if I don't 100% know, my apologies
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:37 |
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Am I going off on a weird tangent with Sal's answer to Mona's question? It's making me really think he's scummy but I want someone to tell me if I'm being wildly offbase and homing in on a small thing that doesn't actually matter.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:38 |
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tithin posted:Minor niggling point - beet is not new to mafia at all. I know, I did say "how verbose he normally is" but I think I might have been a bit subtle. Thank you for pointing it out in case I truly did miss it though, I (actually genuinely) do appreciate it!
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:55 |
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tithin posted:I don't have a "solid" 3 scummy players in my view yet. Regarding 4, that is how Max normally plays. Both when he's town AND scum. Other person I'd recommend you specifically watch out for, because I know I'm going to: Pod. He's very helpful. And seems like he has good reads. And especially then, most of all, is when he's scum.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 03:59 |
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Podima posted:Sal's immediate response was to call MMT townie. Does that change anything for you here? Yes. It makes me even more suspicious of Sal. Can't really remember much offhand about xiw other than them being the original asker of questions re:scum communications, which I'd call a nulltell. I'd have to read them a bit deeper, especially since I'd have put them in my top three and I'm struggling to remember something about them. I'll reorder it for now then since I'm phone posting and am tired and not rereading xiw until tomorrow realtime: 1. Nep (perhaps it's just brainworms from bif but people defending me early aren't generally doing it out of the goodness of their hearts- they're using my crap arguments as a springboard, and town doesn't need friends, so I'm automatically on edge) 2. Sal (seriously am I going off in a stupid tinfoil manner) 3. Max or possibly still beet- but this is significantly less so than the first two. ##vote nep accordingly.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 04:40 |
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Monathin posted:Glad to have you, AA. Yes, it does, and I missed it. I'd put Half above Max for it.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:07 |
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Okay now I'm caught up Irony's posting about not wanting to have a town die too ignores the fact that trading town for scum 1 to 1 is a fantastic ratio and I'll take it all day. I haven't played soldiers before and we have 21 people. xiw is willing to die to get irony axed. If xiw is scum gambiting, all the better, but I don't think they are. I likely won't be around for deadline but I'd prefer irony over hats, I'm always willing to metaphorically vote an uncountered claimed doc, so: ##vote irony be my shield Also you fuckers I told you I can't post as much as I normally do due to new job preventing shitposting on the clock or do you keep conveniently forgetting that, Max beet and sal? goddamn
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:40 |
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Admittedly I want to make it clear that I'm cooling on sal because of meta reasons, so I'll update my top three to: 1: Nep 2: Irony 3: Max/Hal
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:44 |
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Podima posted:Can you expand briefly on those meta reasons, please? Sal is reacting like he has been every time I've started a D1 slapfight with him, and all those times he's been town. I'm not saying I'm confirming him as town in my book, but he's not currently a good D1 scumread and pushing him would be a stupid distraction this close to deadline, given that a noex would give snooze the choice of kill.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:52 |
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plus I don't want to get dayvigged by sal again tbh
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:54 |
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Nep-Nep posted:I don't know who realsies is emperor of the fourth stimpire, praise be unto crobberts
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 04:00 |
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nooooo birb why So I just want to make something clear that a lot of people won't immediately think since the natural reaction is to ease off hats because irony was scum- I think we may have just had two scum up. Remember that hats wanted to vote xiw over irony before it very clearly became a two-candidate execution. I'm extremely suspicious of hats and today they'd top my list.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2020 03:57 |
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Murmur Twin posted:What makes you suspicious of Hats? You didn't mention him at all on d1. For Hats: Talking with my masonbud about him overnight. For Pod: No, not particularly, but he falls into the same category of "hard to read" for me, like Max does.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 15:18 |
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Monathin posted:So, with new battleground comes new considerations, and I want to post this to get thoughts in order for the next battlefield. I would be meaningfully affected.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 15:19 |
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Finally, my power is out due to an ice storm, and I didn't charge my phone prior to that. So I won't be around or catching up until power is restored, as I don't want to run my phone down for this more than I already have.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 15:21 |
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top three right now are: 1. AA- your posting makes it sound like you forgot the specifics of, and overestimated the intensity of, your bus of Irony when you had a chance. I think you tried to look back on your bus for cred and have been called out on it. I also think your push of binus is insincere- I want to see more actual reasoning for reads instead of, well, poo poo buried in large timestamp infodump posts. 2. ASF. "pls read me specific person, not other people" what what come on now, really also, your response to IP when he called you out on that is very, very weak and is more a snappy comeback instead of an actual defense or reasoning. Pod asked you about your views on Max and you went on a ramble instead of actually giving a read: quote:Max spent a lot of time on the Sal/Solus thing early D1. Okay...... ? I don't really know why, it didn't seem like relitigating it was going to cause more content when one of the people were'nt really present, but this game has been "I need to reread" [6 hours later] "Okay I reread" [12 seconds later] "gently caress I forgot about timestamps!", so I don't think it was that weird overall. On the other hand, Max voting hats at all was just so loving... I get it, it generates content, you can get responses blah blah. But I super hate when its done really close to deadline where it can cause a mislynch/bus chance/muddy the waters. Lets just do the thing instead of waiting until literally the last 5 minutes??? This feels scummy on its own for me because would the chance of mislynch be worth it for whatever hats posted? not for town. but probably for scum. (regardless of flip results I mean). I also think it's very interesting that you're invested in having a town read of Pod and, more suspiciously, making sure he knows about it. You don't need to make him your friend by having favorable reads on him, and I think you're trying to get him to reciprocate your town "read". 3. Nep, still. I have a question: Nep-Nep posted:I don't want to be too specific here because I don't see benefit to revealing who I'm in a masonry with, but part of it is that if Hats flipped scum I would have felt very confident in the towniness of my masonry partner based on our private interactions. Conversely, if Hats were to flip town, would you think your masonbud is scum? Also, if Hats flipped scum regardless, would your masonbud's results (I assume) be reasonable to think that they could be fabricated with scum assistance? -- Anyway somebody asked for reads on peoples' masonbuds, so let me give mine: I know my masonbud is town.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2020 17:16 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 10:42 |
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gently caress did I just write ASF for my number 2 when I meant GGN I did, rip
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