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dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

Kenning posted:

I wonder what the body fat % is for the average sumo wrestler anyway. Obviously some guys like Chiyomaru and Aoiyama have lots, but someone like Hakuho doesn't really have much fat relative to his total mass. He's got like an inch of fat on his body, but underneath that is boulders of muscle. Same with dudes like Takarafuji and Okinoumi. They've got more fat than the really lean, quick fighters, but their total percentage probably isn't as high as we'd think.

Someone here once posted a quote from an ex-wrestler talking about that. I donít remember the exact number but I think it was around high end of reasonable dad bod

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Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Its their way to detain, their way to disgrace - their knees in your balls and their fists in your face.



Kenning posted:

I wonder what the body fat % is for the average sumo wrestler anyway. Obviously some guys like Chiyomaru and Aoiyama have lots, but someone like Hakuho doesn't really have much fat relative to his total mass. He's got like an inch of fat on his body, but underneath that is boulders of muscle. Same with dudes like Takarafuji and Okinoumi. They've got more fat than the really lean, quick fiqghters, but their total percentage probably isn't as high as we'd think.

Myogiryu allegedly has 22%, which I've heard announcers mention and Wikipedia sez has been referenced in ads. Hak and a couple smaller guys would be about there too.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007




Elissimpark posted:

I know they're there, but neither are as likely as their senior, retired colleague. Aminishiki is also Ajigawa oyakata which is what Isegahama was before he was Isegahama.

Yeah, Aminishiki is probably the favourite. Just wanted to mention the others since who knows how sumo politics works and there's always guys who don't want the hassle of being the top guy for whatever reason.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Its their way to detain, their way to disgrace - their knees in your balls and their fists in your face.



pseudodragon posted:

who knows how sumo politics works

Come on, it's pretty simple as you can see

*Pulls down insanely detailed organisational chart that would give conspiracy theorists sweating nightmares

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012





Lid posted:

i want to get on the dank that lead to history where a Nick Diaz v Conor fight happened and that it involved Nick Diaz having takedown defence

Meant Nate but still. Point stands that Skip Bayless is a gigantic dumbo.

Kenning
Jan 10, 2009

I really want to post goatse. I wish I had 10bux




Elissimpark posted:

Come on, it's pretty simple as you can see

*Pulls down insanely detailed organisational chart that would give conspiracy theorists sweating nightmares

When you first start watching sumo, it's about the spectacle of fat men smashing into each other. As you get familiar with the sport, you enjoy the technical aspects of balance, grip, and footwork. However the true, lifer sumo fan is in it for the elaborate politics of old men squabbling while fat men smash into each other.

Kenning fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 11, 2020

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012





The grip/wreslting is pretty normal Greco Roman with the exception you have a diaper to hold onto.

Kenning
Jan 10, 2009

I really want to post goatse. I wish I had 10bux




Yes but the physics of the diaper are very sophisticated. Some rikishi have tight diapers, while other have loose, floppy diapers.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Its their way to detain, their way to disgrace - their knees in your balls and their fists in your face.



Mekchu posted:

The grip/wreslting is pretty normal Greco Roman with the exception you have a diaper to hold onto.

Greco-roman nothing, it's belt-style folk wrestling.

Look up Folk wrestling in Wikipedia, fire up YouTube and enjoy the wide world of people hugging vigorously with belts, jackets, collars and oiled jackets.

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

how can i listen to my pirated albums? oh wait.





Kenning posted:

When you first start watching sumo, it's about the spectacle of fat men smash into each other. As you get familiar with the sport, you enjoy the technical aspects of balance, grip, and footwork. However the true, lifer sumo fan is in it for the elaborate politics of old men squabbling while fat men smash into each other.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




What would have been the first basho to have taken place after everyones birth? Mine would have been July 1979

Wajima won with a 14-1 record after a play off with Mienoumi who was promoted to yokozuna after the basho. Also a little known rikishi Chiyonofuji made a winning return to Makuuchi with a 8-7 record, wonder whatever happened to that guy.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008

A group of very serious old men sat around and discussed whether or not I had the requisite dignity and grace of a grand champion.


bessantj posted:

What would have been the first basho to have taken place after everyones birth? Mine would have been July 1979

Wajima won with a 14-1 record after a play off with Mienoumi who was promoted to yokozuna after the basho. Also a little known rikishi Chiyonofuji made a winning return to Makuuchi with a 8-7 record, wonder whatever happened to that guy.

at least around my birth, sumo came to new york in 1985 where apparently chiyonofuji was there (maybe). i am finding it very hard to find any information about it and i'm not going to try any harder. interesting to know though.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Marching Powder posted:

at least around my birth, sumo came to new york in 1985 where apparently chiyonofuji was there (maybe). i am finding it very hard to find any information about it and i'm not going to try any harder. interesting to know though.

If it was an official basho it'll be listed here. But I know sumo did a few tours in those days.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

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bessantj posted:

If it was an official basho it'll be listed here. But I know sumo did a few tours in those days.

Nah, it was a 3 day Jungyo at MSG, here's an NYT article about it.

If you sort this YouTube channel's videos by oldest uploaded, you'll find a few videos of Sumo's 1995 visit to Paris, followed by a bunch of videos from the 1985 visit to NYC.

Brut fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Aug 11, 2020

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

I thought the redtext someone dumped on you was in bad taste and a bit much so here's a corgi instead.

bessantj posted:

What would have been the first basho to have taken place after everyones birth?

September 1984, the last basho at Kuramae Kokugikan. Only yusho by Tagaryū who was on the verge of getting demoted, & the first Makuuchi tournament win by a Maegashira in 8 years.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

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I especially like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix0f489oss

That dude is basically 1985 Tochinoshin, heh.

Though...I can't tell what the hell is going on in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjsufkj74U

I believe this is the final match, indeed involving Chiyonofuji:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVkMr7hdW5o

Brut fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Aug 11, 2020

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008

A group of very serious old men sat around and discussed whether or not I had the requisite dignity and grace of a grand champion.


Brut posted:

I especially like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fix0f489oss

That dude is basically 1985 Tochinoshin, heh.

INSIDERU LEFTERU


Brut posted:

Nah, it was a 3 day Jungyo at MSG, here's an NYT article about it.

yeah that's probably what i found

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Speakig of sumo tours. Chris Sumo has a good vid about a tour that made him fall in love with sumo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4roJI_BrQ

sivad
Feb 28, 2005




Marching Powder posted:

somebody will know what i'm talking about just based on the description but there's this white guy who obviously lifts weights pretty seriously and is obviously stronger than 98% of the population straight out of bed in the morning and he goes to a sumo heya to train and tries to do the basic 'push resisting sumo man across the clay. his ineffectiveness is embarrassing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6PmtNp2idw

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008

A group of very serious old men sat around and discussed whether or not I had the requisite dignity and grace of a grand champion.



lol thanks. for anyone who hasn't seen it if you want to gauge at about how well you'd do making a sumo go where he didn't want to go / was indifferent about if he wanted to go you can skip to the 8 minute mark

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

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Marching Powder posted:

lol thanks. for anyone who hasn't seen it if you want to gauge at about how well you'd do making a sumo go where he didn't want to go / was indifferent about if he wanted to go you can skip to the 8 minute mark

Oh I thought you were describing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpgXjh18vg

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Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008

A group of very serious old men sat around and discussed whether or not I had the requisite dignity and grace of a grand champion.


Brut posted:

Oh I thought you were describing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpgXjh18vg

lol, also good, maybe better because the sumos are loving with him. 2.50. reminds me of my first bjj class when a 16 year old kid literally half my weight made me feel as weak and helpless as, well, this.

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