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everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



with mod approval, just kind of a chill chat for LGBT folk to talk about their day and people to discuss queer manga and what have you

this is NOT a shoujo thread replacement

allies are banned after too many bad takes

everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 30, 2020

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everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



seriously watch akanesasu though

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Jagged Jim posted:

Kanojo ni Naritai Kimi to Boku and Fukakai na Boku no Subete o are pretty good. (although the latter is kinda more non-binary than trans I guess)

The latter also deals with trans issues and lesbian issues and is honestly pretty good about people across the spectrum.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Yuureitou, which I'm not linking because my bookmark on mangadex is dead, is much less good with its portrayals and is more pulp than anything but it's maybe my favorite manga focused on LGBT individuals. Lots of content warnings for abuse and gore and just about everything though. It's incredibly pulpy, and has both the good and the bad that comes from that. FtM and Transvestite MCs though which is kind of rare.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Kaja Rainbow posted:

So, here is my transgender author effortpost! Unfortunately, I don't know of many if any stories from a transmaculine perspective. Those're all from a transfeminine perspective. Anyways, first I must note a few things. One, those stories tend to have a transgender main character who for some reason experience a body change to fit their gender. This is because, in essence, they are transgender wish fulfillment. Two, some of those stories don't shy away from sex and the ways transgender people relate to their own bodies. Three, they're written from the perspective of a minority that has to deal with a hostile world, and some of those stories aggressively wear their progressive politics on their sleeves. If you can deal with those things, read on.

Also please don't be goons at them. Transgender people get a lot of poo poo already. Anyways, I'm gonna feature one story from each author--a lot of them have a bunch of works.

The basic premise of Kammi Kettu is one day many people abruptly are changed along with a bunch of other phenomena like half of Seattle being replaced with strange ruins and a dragon freaking out in New York. Lives are lost in the confusion. The Emerged, those transformed by the Emergence, have to deal with a lot of prejudice and fear. Human-passing Emerged get it better than the weirder looking ones. Some of the Emerged play superhero and supervillain. Also, Neo-Nazis as villains. It follows a transgender woman who is transformed into a foxgirl and her career as a puckish rogue stealing from assholes and confounding superheroes and supervillains alike.

Songbird features a teenager who grows spikes and gets shadowy powers and stuff like that. She is the subject of a horrible misunderstanding. The early part of the story is rather dark, but after a certain point it brightens considerably. This is closely entwined with Kammi Kettu, with a number of crossover chapters featuring meetings between the main characters of the two stories, told from the perspective of that main character. Also it has some lore on why the Emergence happened.

Deviled Egg has the basic premise of the main character getting turned into a succubus type devil by the botched ritual of a wizard in the same apartment complex. It has a 4channer going to hell for his hateful ways, by the way.

Ricochet has the main character awakening her alternate superhero form (a thing in this setting) and discovering said form is a girl. Also, she adjusts to her speedster powers and ends up having tangles with authority and a supervillain with the power to steal others' powers. No relation to Kammi Kettu, by the way, it's a separate setting.

The Other World is Leaking is basically urban fantasy. I still need to read more of it.

Cuddle & Monster takes a different tack than the other stories, where the main character is the subject of an attempted animal transformation spell by an evil warlock and instead turned into a stuffed animal who starts to influence the warlock in a better direction

Birthrights I haven't read yet, but its premise seems to be main character finds his grandmother's legacy and goes exploring the world she had adventures in.

Jotnar: Mother of Monsters has the main character the subject of an attempted ritual to turn her into Loki's bride so Ragnarok, the end of the world, can start. She has her objections to that.

The Three Laws of Magic takes place in a world where magic can only directly affect a person with their consent.

I recommend checking out those authors' profiles for their other works. Scribblehub also has a transgender tag, unlike a certain site whose initials is RR.

I also have a story posted (I'm transgender myself), but it's only two chapters so far. I've been working on the third chapter. When I have more posted, I'll link it.
putting this here so that it isn't buried. not manga but you still read it so good enough.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



an actual dog posted:

I'm gay and love anime

welcome

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



serious about akanesasu shoujo btw
The first episodes are kind of rough but the rest of it is absolutely fantastic with one of my favorite ending episodes of any show

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



for people wanting bl and similar
some of this stuff is NSFW (renta is all smut ime) but like nothing wrong with that

Everything Burrito posted:

Futekiya has been adding some pretty good stuff so a sub is worth it imo, if you want to read BL. A lot of this stuff will probably not ever get a print release either.

Some other good ones (all of these are going to be nsfw to some degree):
https://futekiya.com/mood-indigo/
https://futekiya.com/yuki-and-matsu/
https://futekiya.com/golden-sparkle/
https://futekiya.com/when-we-were-in-the-rose-forest/
https://futekiya.com/shinjuku-lucky-hole/
https://futekiya.com/necktie-and-praying-mantis/

They've got roughly 60 titles right now, so not the deepest library compared to some but they seem to be getting more of a curated selection rather than just anything and everything so the quality is good overall.

Some other places I've been reading:

https://www.manga.club/
They use tickets as currency and give you some for logging in or clicking a twitter post but they expire fast so you can't amass a giant pile just by logging in every day unfortunately. It's pretty good in that you can check out the first 1-3 chapters of something for free or only spend tickets, so you know if it's worth buying the remaining chapters with actual money. Quality of titles is much more mixed, so being able to check something out before buying is really helpful.

https://www.ebookrenta.com/
I've mentioned Renta a few times in the thread and was kinda skeptical for a long time but I've been keeping an eye on the titles they've been getting and at this point they've picked up too much stuff I want to read for me to avoid them any longer. I haven't bought too much from them yet because it's more expensive; you can either buy points in advance then spend them later or just buy chapters & volumes without messing with the point stuff. You get 1 point for logging in and they don't expire, but it'll take you a looooong time to accumulate enough to use them. They do have some free chapters and have regular sales so I've mostly been wishlisting and watching for sales.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



im trans, pan, and I read many gay and many lesbian and many trans

my guilty pleasure is genderbender series so I might be linking some of those because they were what helped encourage me to transition in the end

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Cuntellectual posted:

Isn't this mostly gonna cover the same things that the shoujo/romance thread does?

I see no problem with having two good threads

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Pollyanna posted:

I'm reading Still Sick and this is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

this would all be avoided if she just texted her fuckin gf

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



the real problem with that chart is none of the g-reco guys are in it

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



2014 OL fanartist twitter strongly disagrees

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Craptacular! posted:

Okay, let me restate it more plainly:
Utena was more LGBT-friendly and became fairly mainstream without being on cable TV. Whereas the number of properties involved in slash ship-teasing, ala Gundam, are simply too numerous to mention.

Also, more than half the Hottest Men list being occupied by those twins from that Showa manga reboot is proof that the 2010s were a mistake.

dota 2's elo system also did a lot for gay rights

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Talkc posted:

So i have a love/hate/hate/hate affair with anime and lgbt stuff. I think the only like solid queer tv animes ive seen are No.6 and Given? And maybe cause im too tired of really god awful anime to find anything else? Mind you, its what ive seen. Im sure theres more but... like most seem to really solidly misrepresent or just create a lot of weirdness around the issue of queer characters.

watch akanesasu shoujo

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Craptacular! posted:

I can only speak to wokeness as an outsider because I'm not as good of a trans ally as some other people are, but I can see some people being offended. You have to accept that this stuff is made for Japanese women who are often in toxic relationships with men who display misogynistic behaviors. It sucks for actual gays to see all this rape, but the intended audience is so is accustomed to a culture of men raping women, that men raping other men seems logical. If you're okay with things being 'problematic' sometimes, you'll be fine.

As a trans ally, I'm going to be incredibly racist and claim an entire culture's het relationships are based around rape?? What??

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



allies are banned from this thread now im sorry i don't make the rules

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



you can earn your posting privileges back by reading jealousy by scarlet beriko

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Endorph posted:

A) you literally do
B) should have been this way from the thought imo.

it was a joke i know i make the rules!
might legit ask julias and wark to officially ban allyposting
i kinda assumed it wouldn't happen

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



they already have the shoujo thread...

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



an actual dog posted:

there is a depressing history of gay teens looking for something with gay men and finding bad BL. my boyfriend's fist kiss was with a guy who wanted to watch junjo romantica with him

BL is getting better tho which is good for everyone

back when i still identified as male, my first exposure to any sort of gay material was loving loveless
which, like, did eventually result in me realizing i was bi but...

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

how many trans bee people are there on this drat site

there's even another but i think she got perma'd

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



she might not have been trans tho but im p sure she was?

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



irrational bees is who im thinking of

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



everything burrito CAN post but that's a special exception granted to her as our visiting professor

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Snooze Cruise posted:

winnie the pooh is a bear who eats honey, honey is made by bees

you didn't have the honey bit originally and it was incredibly confusing

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Craptacular! posted:

Well, opening myself up to further attack AND signal boosting for pedoscum is a double whammy to me.

what

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Archer666 posted:

Instead of casting Izumi as a girl or making his actor super girly looking, it's just a regular guy.

Bit disappointed tbh, I wish he were a bit girlier looking.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Pollyanna posted:

whatís it about

it's good and gay and just go into it blind
i like synopsis but i can't explain poo poo
it's 12 episodes and each episode is stronger than the one before it

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



yeah I can see why you would be skeptical about the premise but it definitely feels surprisingly positive about the whole thing.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



I use queer a lot to refer to myself but like "smear the queer" is still a game that is played to this day. I know a lot of people in their twenties who were called that before being beaten up. nowadays people just use human being, but like acting like it hasn't been used as a slur relatively recently is just false.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



dogsicle posted:

i don't think that post is at all saying people uncomfortable with the term don't exist

I'm not sure how else to read it

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



esselfortium posted:

growing up in the 90s and early 2000s, i almost never heard the word queer used, but "gay" was the inescapable derogative du jour for absolutely anything anyone thought was stupid or bad or Too Girly

yeah p much

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Nondevor posted:

Hence, leading to imposter syndrome. My responses are probably too clumsy for discussing this topic (thanks perpetual anxiety and foot-in-mouth tendencies), and I donít want to hurt people unintentionally

please try not to worry too much about it, if you can. honestly the only way to figure this stuff out is usually through talking it out. it would be different if you were coming here with bad intent but like if somebody fucks up some terminology or asks a question that might be offensive you're not going to get run out of the thread

just like don't describe every het relationship in japan as being basically rape and you'll be fine

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



yeah, i was straight, then cis and bi, then genderqueer, then cis and bi again, and then finally realized I was trans when I was 23

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



it's more than fine to question things and figure out what labels you want to use and sometimes assign a label incorrectly

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



Thuryl posted:

It's good and she's good

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



wait when did it get licensed

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everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013



oh wow it already has 13 volumes out in english

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