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lih
May 15, 2013


not long after the two leads finally kiss it suddenly abandons having any real plot and becomes only the disconnected slice of life vignettes that were previously less of a focus. it's still gay though but not as directly. i've heard this was because they ran into trouble trying to publish physical copies specifically due to the kiss scene and china's media censorship rules.

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lih
May 15, 2013


akanesasu shoujo is about numbers stations lesbians

lih
May 15, 2013


ToxicFrog posted:

It's not really manga but I just finally finished reading Always Human and it so impossibly cute and gay and comfy, I ended up crying into my keyboard like six times but in a good way.

Next is probably Aerial Magic by the same author, but after that I'm thinking maybe Girl Friends or Bloom Into You, both recs which I think I got from this thread?

Run Away With Me, Girl looks good but it's also not finished yet and I can't bring myself to start another unfinished series

Aerial Magic is only half complete and will never be finished due to writer's block and didn't really go anywhere, it's hard to recommend.

Bloom Into You is absolutely a classic though

lih
May 15, 2013


giniro no genders is a hilarious trainwreck

lih
May 15, 2013


Toalpaz posted:

E: I'm going to be so so mad if they don't at least kiss at the end but I feel like they're building up to letting me down
don't get your hopes up, the mangaka has said she doesn't really consider it a yuri manga

lih
May 15, 2013


https://twitter.com/haginomakoto/status/1099948966492262400

this is where she apparently said its not yuri, i saw people give vague translations that she was saying she doesn't consider it yuri and it's just about friendship between girls, but she doesn't mind if people interpret it as yuri. my japanese is nowhere near good enough to say how accurate that is though but if that is accurate then im not personally getting my hopes up about them actually kissing or anything lol. i definitely misremembered how definite it seemed though

its extremely gay regardless

lih
May 15, 2013


the "its just friendship between girls" part was what made me think that it becoming more directly romantic isn't too likely, more than the "not yuri" part

lih
May 15, 2013


Endorph posted:

i am not accusing you of anything since we all get second/third hand information telephone gamed to us sometimes, but my guess is that someone - who has the stereotypical western view of 'all lesbian manga is 'yuri' - saw the author saying that they don't want to call it yuri, and editorialized it as 'they're saying its not gay,' and people took that as gospel.
yeah that's definitely a big part of that misunderstanding. idk where the "just about friendship" bit was supposed to be from if not that tweet thread but since there doesn't seem to be any clear source for it then guess we can forget about it.

now that the creator hasn't more directly ruled it out i will also be a little disappointed if they don't kiss lol

lih
May 15, 2013


even after years of tumblr i'd never ever seen 'proqu-sexual' before that's sure a translation choice

lih
May 15, 2013


i think its easier to say with that manga that viewing hiura as directly trans is a fairly obvious possible reading

lih
May 15, 2013


https://mangadex.org/title/6321/mermaid-line
there's "Ayumi and Aika" from this

lih
May 15, 2013


https://mangadex.org/title/40317/ore-ga-watashi-ni-naru-made

this is surprisingly good about growing up with gender issues, much better than i would have thought from the description & premise

lih
May 15, 2013


i didn't say it was a 'trans-inclusive' story and obviously it isn't directly about the real world experience of being trans, but there's enough similarities that i as a trans person got a lot out of it, certainly much more than from most genderswap stories.

it's not really about like, wish fulfilment, either, it's more that akira's experiences are pretty relatable to me, even if they're not always in the same direction gender-wise as mine. there's straight up gender dysphoria, feeling alienated from both genders due to ending up in an awkward in-between of sorts, struggles to adjust to a new gender presentation, general identity issues, etc.

there's a lot more there than a ham-fisted "bullying is bad!" which is all i expected from the premise and didn't really think it would have anything interesting or relatable to say about gender at all

lih
May 15, 2013


i feel like it's sort of a cop out for the dad to come around relatively easily just from the mum saying "look i read some books. lgbt is a real thing!" but i guess they want a happy ending and everything

lih
May 15, 2013


https://mangadex.org/chapter/1205212

a new chapter of so, do you want to go out, or...? at last

lih
May 15, 2013


i would not bother watching WEP if what you're after is good or interesting trans representation

the only trans character is a trans boy who only appears for a single episode to recount the horrible abuse they faced and it really does tread into 'misery porn' territory

there's another character who struggles with their gender presentation but i really don't read her as trans at all and if she was intended to be it's clear the show would have shouted it out loud. her character is just she's a tomboy/"school prince" etc. who wants to be more feminine but feels conflicted bc she gets a lot of positive attention for her androgynous appearance.

it's just a strange, very messy show that doesn't really pull off anything it tries to do despite an excellent first episode

lih fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Apr 3, 2021

lih
May 15, 2013


Thuryl posted:

I was considerably less positive on that bit because my read on it was that all of that stuff wasn't literally depicting Momoe as trans but was attempting to equate the struggles of a probably-straight cis girl who's frustrated that girls keep crushing on her with those of a trans boy facing corrective rape. there's too much stuff from earlier episodes that doesn't really fit with Momoe being trans, and tbh the whole "handsome girl at an all-girls' school who gets treated as a substitute for a boy" archetype being used unexamined for her would be pretty weird if she is meant to be trans

and I really was trying to be charitable to the show but at some point all the times it hit a wrong note built up to a point where it was hard to do that any more

so uh yeah, if you're gonna watch Wonder Egg Priority i'd recommend going in with an awareness that a lot of people found that the first few episodes were really strong but that it gradually started to fall apart after that

yeah this was my take too

i get why people at first interpreted her as possibly trans because the show was very vague about what her deal actually was at first but as it went on that interpretation increasingly made no sense to me

lih
May 15, 2013


uh is the story there she got hot by accidentally starving herself in singular devotion to working on her manga??? uhhh

weird chapter

lih
May 15, 2013


i really liked hello melancholic, only problem was it was relatively short

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lih
May 15, 2013


as far as problems with dynasty's tags go that one's pretty much non-existent

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